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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2009-05-22 09:26 am

real life + naruto manga


So today I had to do a sorta job-search-related phone call. Except I have this huge problem in that because I am unemployed and have been for a good while, my sleep patterns are... well, my usual day cycle is around 28 hours long, and that "around" is really very vague. As in, if you wait two weeks I'll flip my whole schedule over, perhaps even twice. Provided I don't decide to stay up for 30 hours in a row because I'm binging on fic or whatnot. It's a bad habit, but almost everyone I talk to on the internet lives in the States, so it's either stay superlate or don't see them at all.

So today the plan was to go to bed at five am, get up toward noon/one am, then call in the afternoon.

At seven thirty am I was still not asleep but completely groggy but hey, six hours of sleep is better than zero hours of sleep so i tried anyway.

Then my parents started moving furniture. (no, this is not a metaphor.)

See, a week ago dad decided to be all manly-man and fix some annoyances we have with the apartment. Like how in the kitchen there are not enough cupboards, and how the dinner table is so big it makes navigating the tiny living room awkward, and how our fridge is only a couple of years younger than I am. omg money byebye! T^T we've been really having a lot of expenses with that moving business and we were planning to cut back on unnecessary stuff, but! This time it is necessary.

Then of course it was also necessary that he replace the TV that still works perfectly well with an even better version of that HUGE FLATSCREEN LATEST MODEL that he was fangirling last week at his brother's.

Ladies and Gentlemen, my dad.

So hey. Not sleepy anymore. I figure if I do some exercise and cold water to the face!!! and stuff maybe i'll be awake enough so I can call first and THEN sleep! Yeah okay sorta.

Eight am! I pick up the phone. eight and fifteen minutes! I manage to scrape together enough courage to actually make the call. (phones = evil. eeeevil. *stress stress*)

Answering machine. well um maybe they only get there at nine!

*cue jittery fidgeting, manga reading, more cold water, and making faces at the horrible dark bags under my eyes*

Nine and ten minutes!

Answering machine again.

Yesterday was a national holiday. Tomorrow is saturday. Half of France is taking a four-day weekend. HMM. Could it be that ... they're not working today? *gasp*

*flops*

My face atm: ಠ_ಠ





Askerian: oh and i read the naruto chapter while i was waiting
Askerian: and the bleach chapter.
Saro Lynne: XD
Saro Lynne: I was about to tell you to read the Bleach chapter. It's so boring, that will calm you down. ;p
Saro Lynne: Alas. I was wrong.
Askerian: it really irritates me how the POV stuff is given to a random tertiary character instead of soi fong, but i'm telling myself it's cause she needs mystery for her awesome bankai. or... shikai. or whatever it's called. >____>
Askerian: XD
Askerian: also the big boobs enemy is boring
Saro Lynne: What? Soi Fong has no Bankai. Or something.
Askerian: and yes, it was a lot of pages for nothing to happen
Saro Lynne: What? Can't you see that a dark skinned woman running around mostly nekkid is all you REALLY need to be interesting?
Saro Lynne: Or something.
Saro Lynne: orz
Askerian: shhh, she's about to pull it out of her ass like hitsugaya did
Askerian: ... as for naruto oh god. i... want to like it, some of it is shiny, but in the end? he didn't give any real answer
Askerian: it's like "it can't be done!" "then i'll do it!" "how?" "i have no clue but i'll still do it!" "oh hey, i'm convinced now."
Askerian: but i liked the flashbacks
Askerian: and I loved how naruto and nagato both put themselves inside the story
Saro Lynne: I don't know. I liked it, actually. Not hella well. I didn't love it. I think I'd have liked it better if I gave most of a shit about Pain. But it felt IC for Naruto to stay with his ideals even if he doesn't have the right answer. It reminded me of him beating Gaara, and of his conversation with Jiraiya after failing to bring Sasuke back.
Askerian: yeah, it was ic, it's just something about the writing that made it blah to me
Saro Lynne: I don't mind Pain changing his mind quickly because I never felt like he had a lot of conviction. He was just acting out of a place of (ugh) pain after being burned by his own ideals.
Askerian: the idea was good and ic, but the execution fell flat somehow. i'll figure it out after i sleep 20 hours in a row, just you wait.
Askerian: I think what bugs me the most is that it only takes him a little talk and he changes his mind and we're supposed to sympathize with him and how tragically misguided he was but it's all better now yay so moving. meanwhile the dead bodies of a thousand konoha people are rotting in the sun.
Askerian: It's good that he's changing his ideals again, but if he does a karma houdini i'll be cross.
Saro Lynne: Eh. I don't know. I think most of fandom would agree with you, but it doesn't feel any more like a karmic Houdini to me than it did with Gaara. The execution isn't anything to praise, but it seemed about like normal. I wouldn't be shocked if they found a way to kill Pain still, because of what he's done. (And if that happens, Danzou will probably be responsible. He likes to be convenient like that. Him, or Madara.) But... they're ninja. And if he hadn't killed people, then it wouldn't really be much of a problem for Naruto to forgive him. I guess just killing Jiraiya might have been enough, but... really, I don't mind that. I kind of felt like part of the point was that you had to stop the cycle of violence. Which isn't terribly fun.
Askerian: hm, i think the difference in how it feels with gaara is that gaara was a kid the same age as naruto and he'd been treated horrible by his father and betrayed. whereas pain ... well, he might not have grown much emotionally speaking, but he still presents as a rational adult. or, well, he's a fanatic, but it comes across as religious fervor born from a "this way is superior" way of thinking, whereas gaara's reasoning was a lot more animal -- he was reacting. pain feels like he's being proactive about things instead of lashing back.
Askerian: so that's why the idea of Pain not dying bothers me more than the idea of gaara not dying.
Askerian: Pain gives me the impression that he routinely sits at the head of big company tables and discusses the best cost-effective way to erase this or that town from the map. Gaara was more like wild and enraged.
Askerian: i think danzou or madara will probably get him, though, if he doesn't die of le tired like itachi, so that they can be showcased as Even Bigger Baddies!!!1!1 who killed poor widdle pain-chan while he was just starting to become good. XD
Saro Lynne: I don't really get that from Pain. He might go for the killing people, yeah, but I don't get rational adult from him. At all. Like I said, I get the feeling of someone reacting, yes, terribly and disproprtionately, and reacting, and it just hasn't stopped. He's definitely a very damaged individual. And, seriously, I keep sticking on the fact that if he were easy to forgive or sympathize with, Naruto forgiving him wouldn't really be for much. I like the fact he's hard to forgive. And it's not like being a ninja doesn't come with a risk. That's part of the problem. He might be leveling villages, and they might have civilians in them. But it's still not like he's just leveling peaceful farmers in his way. They are military bases.
Askerian: heh ^^
Askerian: hmm i see what you mean
Saro Lynne: I mean, I don't think it's resolved. I don't think Pain is OMG OKAY NOW. And they're buddy buddy. I don't even think he's forgiven. But Naruto's chosing not to continue escalating violence, and sticking with his ideals, and I approve of that.
Askerian: i think it's the hairdo. sleek and shiny. also he's physically adult. i can't get the same kind of instant d'aww i got from baby gaara. he was socute. .__. *shallow*
Saro Lynne: XDDDD
Askerian: yesh, good naruto. ^^
Saro Lynne: Well. Gaara being cute does help, I'm sure. XD
Saro Lynne: I don't know. I actually didn't like Gaara much until he was redeemed. I liked what he did for Naruto--bringing out his own conflict in like a concentrated form. I liked that Naruto sympathized with him, but was willing to kill him if he had to to defend his friends despite that. It was the step he had to take then.
Saro Lynne: So Pain, to me, seems sort of like Gaara v 2.0. And this time he's making the "I don't forgive you or sympathize with you, but I'm not going to kill you." step. So.
Saro Lynne: It works for me.
Saro Lynne: And like I said, it would work a whole lot better if I gave a shit about Pain. XD;;;
Saro Lynne: Ah well. It will make it easier to deal with when Danzou kills him.
Askerian: ... i'm stealing the convo for lj btw cause i'm too lazy to write XD
Askerian: also can't concentrate.
Saro Lynne: XD
Saro Lynne: That's fine.
Saro Lynne: It saves me the trouble of feeling like I need to type up something up. Because... I wasn't sure I cared THAT much. I just don't feel like it's as bad of writing as most people are saying. Which is. Pretty much everyone I've seen comment on it so far. ._.
Askerian: XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Askerian: ♥♥♥
Askerian: actually i liked this chapter more than the last few
Askerian: but that might just be the sleep deprivation. >__>
Saro Lynne: XD
Saro Lynne: It could be Jiraiya? 9.9
Saro Lynne: Or the fact that Pain's conflict is pretty much done now, so that means Sasuke soon.
Askerian: ... oh hey *_* THAT TOO.
Askerian: no, i think it was seeing nagato having a fanboy escapism moment. now THAT i can actually sympathize with. XD


saro sosmart. T^T

But anyway. I get annoyed when Kishimoto drags out the same scene again and again, and the same catchphrase dialogue that sounds so good that people can't help but repeat it all the time, believe it! (i think it's the current fillers and their kaeru no basho this, "where people think of you is the place where you come home!" x 10 times per filler ep that make me so touchy about it) but at the same time seeing the same scene with different characters? Even the bad guy was different. That was pretty awesome in a storytelling point of view.

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
♥♥♥♥

[identity profile] fateofshadow.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 08:49 am (UTC)(link)
First of all, agree with pretty much everything you've said above, especially about the redemption being too quick but loving Naruto's part in it *squishes*

But the qustion I'm asking is how did Tifa end up being Pein's mum? o_O Cos that's what it looks like where I'm standing in the family flashback...or is that just my own sleep deprived mind playing tricks on me? Urg had to get up at the crack of dawn today for a delivery, it's almost 10am now and still nothing. -_-

Re: guhh i sux spelling iz fr teh week.

[identity profile] fateofshadow.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 09:20 am (UTC)(link)
Lols, glad I helped, I hate it when you have that nigling 'I recognise this but I'm clueless' thing.

Sasuke's mum, yeah, a generic Uchiha lady whose most discerning feature is an apron. >___> Basically she stands out as she's the only Uchiha who doesn't have a strongly characterised face or crazy hair (Sasuke's one discerning feature)

Hope the delivery people hurry up for you, I'm waiting for my new laptop, currently on the stone age PC and I wish I could sleep too. Oh why must everyone disturb our sleeps preciousssss! *emos* ;___;

[identity profile] venia.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 10:59 am (UTC)(link)
it's like "it can't be done!" "then i'll do it!" "how?" "i have no clue but i'll still do it!" "oh hey, i'm convinced now."

XDDDDDDDDDDDDD

And good luck with the phone call! o.o I'm looking for work too so I emphasize. Since I'm lazy-coward, and since I already have a part-time job I didn't want to search for something better. Eventually my mother convinced me that if I earn more money I can visit Japan every summer, stay there for 3 months and buy all the doujinshi I want. *____*;; which gave me a new purpose in life. *naive* I mean, visiting Japan once, ok. But every summer?? My mind had never wandered that far.*is shot* XD Yay for full time jobs!*whines and wants to write isntead*

[identity profile] nothri.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 12:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm...considering Pain was vomitting up mountains of blood before, I think he might not make it long term. One of those "villain must die but hero must stay pure, so we get a deus ex machideath".
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[personal profile] tephra 2009-05-22 01:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I can so relate to the no work/looking for work thing and the crazy sleep cycles. And today we have electricians coming to do work over half the house so I had to get up about four hours earlier than normal. I want to go to bed. So tired. Bastards aren't even here yet and will be running around the house for hours. :C

Naruto and Bleach have been so "meh" for so long now. At least Kuroshitsuji made up for them this month. Pity it's only a monthly serial and I have to wait a month for the next chapter.

I get repetitive when exhausted.
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[personal profile] tephra 2009-05-22 03:46 pm (UTC)(link)
The electricians are two hours late. I want to sleeeep. ;_;
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[personal profile] tephra 2009-05-23 05:14 am (UTC)(link)
Electrician finally showed up, at 1pm... just three and a half hours late. :P I finally got some sleep around 5pm. So of course my screwy sleep schedule is even worse now. At least it's a holiday weekend so I can attempt to skew it around to something approaching "normal" so I can be up to wait for him to come back Tuesday to finish the rest of the work. Being a night owl is not good for dealing with the 8 to 4 workday that is popular around here.

Just watch, he's supposed to be here at 8am Tuesday, I think that will end up being noon. :P

[identity profile] questofdreams.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 01:57 pm (UTC)(link)
ಠ_ಠ LKFDSJIEFS HOW DO I GET THAT NIFTY CHARACTER?! *glares at keyboard*

yes, that is what I got out of this post ._.

I HAVE A HUGE IRRATIONAL FEAR OF PHONE CALLS D: ASLFJSIE CALL THE DENTIST OFFICE TO CONFIRM AN APPOINTMENT? CALL A HOTEL TO MAKE RESERVATIONS? PICK UP THE PHONE AT WORK TO ASSIST A CUSTOMER? A;SKLDFJISE SOMEONE DO IT FOR ME ;_; I have issues ._.

I haven't read the chapter yet but I read that anyway b/c I am spoiler whore :B Sari somart XD

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 05:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Pain gives me the impression that he routinely sits at the head of big company tables and discusses the best cost-effective way to erase this or that town from the map. Gaara was more like wild and enraged.

This is why Pain's turn-about is so frustrating. And honestly, I think you're right about if he dies, it will be Danzo, a "bad guy" killing him, and be a total Karma Houdini. IMHO.

[identity profile] redbrunja.livejournal.com 2009-05-23 05:31 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I'd love to see Pain backstabbed by one of the good guys. Seriously, get Ino's dad in here to rip his head open. Because yeah, his plans for peace where lame and self-righteous and I have NO sympathy for him.

Oh, and the Raikage's team of hotness! they'e been introduced a bazilion years ago and they still haven't shown up again.

I KNOW! THE ONE TEAM THAT ISN'T TWO BOYS AND A GIRL! I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THESE PEOPLE!

[identity profile] kittychan1986.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 05:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you, Phones are evil evil monsters that should be shot.

So is the Pein thing finally over? Because I'm not touching the manga again until it's over and I can just read it in a chunk, because Pein just annoys me. But yay, for maybe Sasuke in the horizon. Kishi needs to stop reading One Piece, bad guys still need to die.

Speaking of OP, have you read it yet? (No Ace, Le Sad.) It's having a Namak moment "This will take five minutes" 100 chapters later....

[identity profile] midnigh-unicorn.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 06:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Naruto reminded me of Star Wars >.>
And I had an opinion on Bleach <.<
But I forgot it... >.>

[identity profile] nekokriszty.livejournal.com 2009-05-22 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Today, I had to make a phone call for a possible job (only I'm planning to decline...). I had to gather a lot of courage, too. *hates talking over phone*

I didn't make it, either.

[identity profile] baku-chan.livejournal.com 2009-05-23 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
I'm getting the sinking feeling that Pain is about to sacrifice himself or somehow "make up" for what he's done to Konoha. Or get killed by Madara in the process of trying to do said "making up".

Oh.

What is that, double karma houdini?

[identity profile] uminohikari.livejournal.com 2009-05-24 06:12 pm (UTC)(link)
The world should just use email instead of phone :)