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teamwork babble! :O
Someone sent me Teamwork-related questions, and I babbled a bit, and now i'm in a teamworky moodso hey. Here they are if you're interested, and if you guys have any questions of your own that won't spoil the next fic then I'll answer them.
>what is Sakura and Sasuke's relationship like when Naruto happens to just not be around for a while, like if he is on a solo mission or is out training with Jiraiya or anything really?
So far it hasn't happened much yet since they got together! They haven't been separated for more than a few hours to maybe a weekend, and even when they're not living together they still train or have missions. For the shorter breaks Naruto often wanders out to go see Iruka or Shikamaru and Kiba and the rest of the group and those evenings Sasuke and Sakura apparently take the chance to have a quiet day in. XD Often they'll be reading scrolls or books in the same room and not talking much. Sasuke likes it, he finds it restful and he does consider it something he does with Sakura, not just him pretending she's not here at all (he'd go in another room, and sometimes he does go into another room and lock himself in, that's different for him). Sasuke likes it some days because she knows what Sasuke means by it, and some days she'd like to chat but she doesn't want to disturb him too much and she wonders if maybe she isn't reading too much into it and he is, in fact, not even really noticing she's here.
So yeah, it's a bit awkward, mostly from her side. Sasuke assumes she understands him and his motives and thoughts, but he isn't fully taking into account her own needs about communication and closeness, and the thing is Sakura usually *does* get him really well, but sometimes she doubts herself and her understanding, since it's mostly wordless and she has a tendency not to trust her instincts, or to be down on herself in general. So Sasuke would be more awkward as well if he stopped assuming it's all fine. XD
Mind, that doesn't happen every time they're alone together. Sometimes Sakura feels daring or Sasuke feels... I don't know, cuddly? husbandly? XD and they'll be kind of leaning shoulder to shoulder and end up kind of cuddling. But first they have to test the waters for like a half hour or something. XDDD They're too used to Naruto dragging them in and getting things started.
>My next question is about Jin. He is a Kunoichi and straight, does that help or hinder is ability to detach himself from the job.
This is kinda complicated. The issue isn't really that he's straight, the training does help not taking people's advances personally whether they're men or women -- he does sometimes get a bit aroused when getting close to very pretty women but he sees that as a distraction and "damn it why do I have so many hormones stupid teenagerhood", it doesn't happen with men -- it's that he's kinda macho, he wants to be a protector, only with his build and his face it's just not happening and he has to keep pretending to be frail and sensitive and while he can hide his true reactions for the good of the mission, that chafes. He'd be just as irritated if he was gay, only he'd be annoyed that sometimes his hormones get a foothold into his control and react inappropriately to targets (especially if he was passing as a girl at the time, sudden!erection isn't a surprise a lot of men would be happy about. XD) He does find men more dangerous to get close to, but they're also more predictable in some ways, and it's not related to his sexuality.
Anyway, he's not supposed to enjoy macking on people he's going to steal from or even kill later on, so long story short it's not that much of a bother and he has long since learned to see kissing and caressing people he's not attracted to as a performance art rather than anything personal. It's just when people learn that he's a guy and they immediately assume he's gay and naturally effeminate to boot, it pisses him off.
>Also, does he target the closet lesbians as well?
Hahaha, likely so. It'd be hilarious, wouldn't it. His target is pretty much anyone his mission persona pings as their type, he can adapt.
>(also I was wondering if I could write some fanfiction for you about Jin. I like the character and I would not post it unless I have express permission, I would credit you, and link back to you if I did. I am not much of a artist but I would love to give some fan stuff in your direction and my only real talent is writing, I do really love your universe)
Oooh, that would be awesome! Please feel free to write, post, whatever you want.
>Then there is Kyuubi and his giving chakra to the kid no matter who is the actual father would Shukaku have that happen to him as well if he was in heat and if the threesome happened to be GaaSakuNaru instead... would both of their chakra be sent into the kid or just one? Or would depend on who is in heat?
I think if Shuukaku had been anywhere near Kyuubi when he was half-freed and running on instinct things would have ended rather badly. Kyuubi wouldn't have let a male he didn't consider his at Sakura, especially one who might possibly (i don't think anyone's ever tried it so possibly not even the demons know?) erase/dominate the chakra bond he was tying into the potential baby. Sasuke wasn't a challenge in that way and Naruto's possessiveness leaked through to Kyuubi, but he doesn't see Gaara like that.
That or they'd have forgotten Sakura to tear each other to shreds and hatefuck until the village was a hole in the ground. XD
I admit I haven't thought much about how Shuukaku works and how his seal is set up.
>I am also unclear on when exactly the universe goes AU from the series. It probably says it somewhere, but I may have missed it and can't for the life of me find it.
During the Naruto/Sasuke fight at Valley of the End, but I haven't yet managed to write that flashback. Every time I get close to mentioning it the story swerves on me and argh. Long story short Kyuubi being more active he was gaining more influence during the fight, and so during the last pass instead of scratching Sasuke's headband Naruto put his hand through his lung. Sasuke was in the hospital for a while, it's mentioned in the prequel Progression but not really explained wtf happened to land him there. After that Itachi killed Orochimaru, because he was fine with Sasuke going to him if it was his decision but Oro was getting annoyed with his lateness and planned to kidnap him and that just was not on, so Sasuke didn't have anywhere to go so he stayed in Konoha. He kinda hated everyone and treated them like shit for the next two years. XD
>My last question for now is how far does your universe match with the cannon besides the obvious. Do you pick and choose what you like from cannon and leave the rest, do you try to keep some cannon on purpose, or do you just not care one way or the other?
If something neat is unveiled that doesn't mess up my plans, I tend to grab it. Even if it doesn't make it to the screen, for example Kushina being Naruto's mom, it's just that in my 'verse she wasn't a jinchuuriki since I'd said before Naruto was the first, but Kushina being awesome I am totally grabbing the hell out of her if I ever have a reason to mention her at all. I also grabbed Sai and Tenzou because I like them as characters and Konoha is a big village and it means two OCs I don't have to make up! If it doesn't match, I go with my previous ideas, unless the new canon is really awesome and works better with the plot than what I had planned instead. So far that hasn't happened yet, though. I had the Kyuubi as a summon idea two years before Kishi put it in his manga, damn it!!!! *pout pout pout* XDD;
Feel free to send more questions as you remember them, and I hope you won't mind if I post the answers on my journal for other fans, I haven't written or talked about Teamwork in so long I think they're feeling neglected. XD; They're good questions, at any rate!
>what is Sakura and Sasuke's relationship like when Naruto happens to just not be around for a while, like if he is on a solo mission or is out training with Jiraiya or anything really?
So far it hasn't happened much yet since they got together! They haven't been separated for more than a few hours to maybe a weekend, and even when they're not living together they still train or have missions. For the shorter breaks Naruto often wanders out to go see Iruka or Shikamaru and Kiba and the rest of the group and those evenings Sasuke and Sakura apparently take the chance to have a quiet day in. XD Often they'll be reading scrolls or books in the same room and not talking much. Sasuke likes it, he finds it restful and he does consider it something he does with Sakura, not just him pretending she's not here at all (he'd go in another room, and sometimes he does go into another room and lock himself in, that's different for him). Sasuke likes it some days because she knows what Sasuke means by it, and some days she'd like to chat but she doesn't want to disturb him too much and she wonders if maybe she isn't reading too much into it and he is, in fact, not even really noticing she's here.
So yeah, it's a bit awkward, mostly from her side. Sasuke assumes she understands him and his motives and thoughts, but he isn't fully taking into account her own needs about communication and closeness, and the thing is Sakura usually *does* get him really well, but sometimes she doubts herself and her understanding, since it's mostly wordless and she has a tendency not to trust her instincts, or to be down on herself in general. So Sasuke would be more awkward as well if he stopped assuming it's all fine. XD
Mind, that doesn't happen every time they're alone together. Sometimes Sakura feels daring or Sasuke feels... I don't know, cuddly? husbandly? XD and they'll be kind of leaning shoulder to shoulder and end up kind of cuddling. But first they have to test the waters for like a half hour or something. XDDD They're too used to Naruto dragging them in and getting things started.
>My next question is about Jin. He is a Kunoichi and straight, does that help or hinder is ability to detach himself from the job.
This is kinda complicated. The issue isn't really that he's straight, the training does help not taking people's advances personally whether they're men or women -- he does sometimes get a bit aroused when getting close to very pretty women but he sees that as a distraction and "damn it why do I have so many hormones stupid teenagerhood", it doesn't happen with men -- it's that he's kinda macho, he wants to be a protector, only with his build and his face it's just not happening and he has to keep pretending to be frail and sensitive and while he can hide his true reactions for the good of the mission, that chafes. He'd be just as irritated if he was gay, only he'd be annoyed that sometimes his hormones get a foothold into his control and react inappropriately to targets (especially if he was passing as a girl at the time, sudden!erection isn't a surprise a lot of men would be happy about. XD) He does find men more dangerous to get close to, but they're also more predictable in some ways, and it's not related to his sexuality.
Anyway, he's not supposed to enjoy macking on people he's going to steal from or even kill later on, so long story short it's not that much of a bother and he has long since learned to see kissing and caressing people he's not attracted to as a performance art rather than anything personal. It's just when people learn that he's a guy and they immediately assume he's gay and naturally effeminate to boot, it pisses him off.
>Also, does he target the closet lesbians as well?
Hahaha, likely so. It'd be hilarious, wouldn't it. His target is pretty much anyone his mission persona pings as their type, he can adapt.
>(also I was wondering if I could write some fanfiction for you about Jin. I like the character and I would not post it unless I have express permission, I would credit you, and link back to you if I did. I am not much of a artist but I would love to give some fan stuff in your direction and my only real talent is writing, I do really love your universe)
Oooh, that would be awesome! Please feel free to write, post, whatever you want.
>Then there is Kyuubi and his giving chakra to the kid no matter who is the actual father would Shukaku have that happen to him as well if he was in heat and if the threesome happened to be GaaSakuNaru instead... would both of their chakra be sent into the kid or just one? Or would depend on who is in heat?
I think if Shuukaku had been anywhere near Kyuubi when he was half-freed and running on instinct things would have ended rather badly. Kyuubi wouldn't have let a male he didn't consider his at Sakura, especially one who might possibly (i don't think anyone's ever tried it so possibly not even the demons know?) erase/dominate the chakra bond he was tying into the potential baby. Sasuke wasn't a challenge in that way and Naruto's possessiveness leaked through to Kyuubi, but he doesn't see Gaara like that.
That or they'd have forgotten Sakura to tear each other to shreds and hatefuck until the village was a hole in the ground. XD
I admit I haven't thought much about how Shuukaku works and how his seal is set up.
>I am also unclear on when exactly the universe goes AU from the series. It probably says it somewhere, but I may have missed it and can't for the life of me find it.
During the Naruto/Sasuke fight at Valley of the End, but I haven't yet managed to write that flashback. Every time I get close to mentioning it the story swerves on me and argh. Long story short Kyuubi being more active he was gaining more influence during the fight, and so during the last pass instead of scratching Sasuke's headband Naruto put his hand through his lung. Sasuke was in the hospital for a while, it's mentioned in the prequel Progression but not really explained wtf happened to land him there. After that Itachi killed Orochimaru, because he was fine with Sasuke going to him if it was his decision but Oro was getting annoyed with his lateness and planned to kidnap him and that just was not on, so Sasuke didn't have anywhere to go so he stayed in Konoha. He kinda hated everyone and treated them like shit for the next two years. XD
>My last question for now is how far does your universe match with the cannon besides the obvious. Do you pick and choose what you like from cannon and leave the rest, do you try to keep some cannon on purpose, or do you just not care one way or the other?
If something neat is unveiled that doesn't mess up my plans, I tend to grab it. Even if it doesn't make it to the screen, for example Kushina being Naruto's mom, it's just that in my 'verse she wasn't a jinchuuriki since I'd said before Naruto was the first, but Kushina being awesome I am totally grabbing the hell out of her if I ever have a reason to mention her at all. I also grabbed Sai and Tenzou because I like them as characters and Konoha is a big village and it means two OCs I don't have to make up! If it doesn't match, I go with my previous ideas, unless the new canon is really awesome and works better with the plot than what I had planned instead. So far that hasn't happened yet, though. I had the Kyuubi as a summon idea two years before Kishi put it in his manga, damn it!!!! *pout pout pout* XDD;
Feel free to send more questions as you remember them, and I hope you won't mind if I post the answers on my journal for other fans, I haven't written or talked about Teamwork in so long I think they're feeling neglected. XD; They're good questions, at any rate!
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I think the first time everyone kinda panicked and were on the edge of doing something dangerous like trying to cage or tackle him, and Kakashi was panicking inside because wtf was even going on but trying to look cool and like this wasn't so bad on the outside. He spent half the night tracking Naruto until Naruto ended up on Iruka's roof and Iruka managed to get him to settle down and go back to sleep. After that point when Naruto roams too much or in aggressive/hunting ways they bring Iruka out; Kakashi's dogs make Naruto growl a bit because foxes and dogs = :/ so they don't want to try to see if Kakashi could settle him down the same way, though when he's dogless he just washes the scent off real quick and some nights Naruto will let him roam with him, like a couple meters apart, he'll even come right up to him for a little hello sniff XD
Kakashi has been known to think in the privacy of his own mind that if Naruto gave Sasuke a good dicking maybe Sasuke would settle the hell down because the teenage hormones and "wahhh my crush doesn't notice me like that but i don't even WANT him to notice me like that anyway i hate him for making me feel that" were getting on his nerves. He was also fairly sure Naruto was 110% heterosexual, though. He kinda thought NaruSaku might be the safest (and most lukewarm) but the second Sasuke got jealous and snapped his fingers Sakura would come running because if Sasuke couldn't have Naruto then he might decide to ruin it for him, even accidentally/in a moment of rage, or draw away from the both of them and thus ruin the *team*, or SasuSaku might happen but for all the wrong reasons, because Sasuke was trapped there and oh fuck it she's willing and I'll never trust anyone else not to knife me while I come so why the hell not. Kakashi's opinions on his kids' relationships were all pretty grim. He was also most determinedly not taking a side. XD I mean, he REALLY doesn't have a high view of Sasuke's ability to form emotional attachments but the kid is still his favorite! (mostly because he understands all too well that type of damage)
Kakashi hasn't been shutting up people who merely report thing as they see them, even if they report with their own biases, because if he corrects someone's bias, immediately his own objectivity is questioned, and he can't afford that. He might have killing-intent'd at a few asshole who made really out of line comments. >___> he can't afford to beat up people over mere words either, it's not professional.
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Ohhh, somehow the thought of Kakashi and Naruto roaming together strikes me as kind of hot, all predator and smooth elite jounin stalking the night. And, alright, also Kakashi freaking out on the inside is also kind of interesting and makes me want to cackle. Just a little. Oh, on that note, what was Kakashi thinking when he and the other jounin showed up all bamf and chased off Kisame and Itachi during the chunin exam, and Naruto was all kyuubi'd?
"if Naruto gave Sasuke a good dicking maybe Sasuke would settle the hell down" - So Kakashi got the bottom-vibe from Sasuke? XD Heh, what do the rest of... everyone (well, the Rookies)... think the 'bedroom dynamics' are like?
I appreciate Kakashi not having an OTP XD ...at least not consciously. (yeah, he would, wouldn't he? also the aftermath... a lot more than most, I should think.)
"because if he corrects someone's bias, immediately his own objectivity is questioned" Kind of sacrificing the comments he might make otherwise to makes sure he doesn't come off as compromised and gets booted out of the group dealing directly with the whole *gestures* thing.
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on that note, what was Kakashi thinking when he and the other jounin showed up all bamf and chased off Kisame and Itachi during the chunin exam, and Naruto was all kyuubi'd?
Well, he's good at keeping from getting distracted, and that'd be stupid around akatsuki members anyway, but underneath that iron control there was a lot of SHIT FUCK NO *MY KIDS, NO KILLING* sasuke is not moving and then a crapton of OH HELL KYUUBI, at least until he saw Naruto still answered to his name and was still conscious, after that he settled down because he really (not entirely consciously) has a lot of faith in Naruto's willpower and so long as he was awake he wasn't gonna let the fox win. (d'awww trust. XD he tries to be rational about it but ... nope, just has faith in Naruto by this point, even when he's not fully aware he's functioning on the assumption that of course Naruto can manage X.)
Kakashi figured Sasuke getting "it's not like i like you baka!!!" at Naruto and then the "iyaaa~n nooooo watch how ineffectually i fight you off now i can enjoy it without feeling guilty" would be a hell of a lot less damaging than Sasuke getting fed up and pouncing on a straight, uninterested Naruto, is all, and also that Naruto would have less of a kneejerk OH NOES NOW I HAVE TEH GHEYS if they kept the switching for later. XD Sasuke's issues make him more of the "I'll allow you to pursue me, because i'm not allowing myself to act on this shit" type, which might translate into bedroom roles. It might not, but hey, it's not like kakashi was looking for more proof either way, he'd already officially thought about it too much the second he formulated that thought inside his head. XDD
Kiba is confused, because on one hand Sasuke SURELY molested poor straight Naruto, and on the other hand his nose says kyuunaru tops everything ever. Hmm. Dilemma. Shika is officially Not Thinking About It. Ino thinks both ways are hot and she's gonna think about both, thanks, and also frottage and sixty-nine, whaddya mean you guys haven't tried it in rl yet.
Yeah, Kakashi has to be really careful he doesn't look like he likes his students *too much* considering they contain one traitor and one demon. :X He's free to like Sakura as much as he wants, only not because then it becomes suspicious that he's playing favorites on pedo grounds which uuuuu no. XD
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"iyaaa~n" ROFL XD Sasuke would murderize you if he ever read this post. Ohh, does this mean that there is switching going on later? (I thought it might be, in that comfort sex after the killing-children-angst, but I wasn't sure, BECAUSE YOU TOTALLY WROTE THAT AMBIGUOUSLY) Anyway, you're one of few authors I've read who doesn't have the top/bottom roles somehow define the character's personality (I'm looking at you, wimpy-blushy-weak-uke-phenomenon!), so I'm mostly just slightly curious.
"Shika is officially Not Thinking About It." Is Shika of the 200 Theories in a Minute capable of not thinking about it? Color me surprised XD I thought he might be like Kakashi, trying not to think about it and kind of failing a little. Or a lot. Anyway, I like that people have different opinions (though I'm curious about what, hah, /Lee/ thinks XD was he still interested in Sakura?) about who goes in whom, rather than everyone being all 'he's obviously teh uke heh!' ...and I think Ino should graciously gift them with the Kama Sutra to give them Ideas XD
What a thin edge he has to thread. Wonder if he ever wishes his students were less important/infamous...
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Sasuke has, by the time TW3 rolls around, topped Naruto already. It happens in the "first time" interlude that follows Naruto and Sakura's first alone time. (the sasusaku alone time is the last.) I just haven't finished writing it yet because I suck and also because I hate porn why is it so tedious aaaaa. .__.; Naruto was pretty much pretending he wasn't curious at ALL and was just appeasing Sasuke's need to regain some of his lost manhood, because naruto was a generous and totally toppy guy who wasn't nervous about what was happening at ALL. Also, he didn't like it. Promise. >___> Anyway during that ambiguous scene thing I don't even remember if I implied penetration at all. Sometimes they don't, it depends.
Shika can avoid thinking about things if he brains hard enough!!!!! (also, denial. denial is really powerful when your brain is that strong. Yep. He is not having any of those thoughts, they're just... here. somehow. and he's totally not looking at them.) (in his heart of hearts he thinks Naruto tops, because Naruto.) haha, ino giving them the kama sutra. XDDDDDD I could see it too.
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Ahh, he has? :) How did Sasuke feel about that? Not...like...porn...? *blinks uncomprehendingly* Somehow, I now want to stand up and shout 'BLASPHEMY!' and wave my fist towards the sky. ...well, no, but I love your porn and definitely think this should be written, when you feel like it ;D And, haaaaah, yeah Naruto totally didn't like it, in the same way Sasuke doesn't like it. To complete the set, Sakura should declare she doesn't like it either XD
"if he brains hard enough" Er? What, if he brains himself?
"in his heart of hearts he thinks Naruto tops, because Naruto" Best explanation evarrr XD
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The water barely shivers when Sasuke slides out of his seat, moves behind the blond. Two hands on Naruto's shoulders now, kneading and rubbing, a little too hard to be comfortable, and making absolutely no effort to avoid the marks he left, that still haven't disappeared.
For a moment, Naruto is tense, head lifted as if ready to turn around and question him on his motives. Or push him away. Or, god forbid, thank Sasuke for "being nice." But then he sighs and closes his eyes. He must be really, really tired... It's his fault for abusing Kage Bunshin so badly. Sasuke's hands slip under the water, make their way down his back.
Naruto doesn't react again until Sasuke's hands reach his hips. "What are you doing?" he asks, like he doesn't know.
Sasuke leans against his back, body to body, cheek pressed against wet blond hair. "I'm going to fuck you. You're going to like it. Now shut up."
Naruto, wonder of wonders, does. Sasuke leans back a little to frown at his bowed head, nonplussed.
Under the weight of his gaze Naruto squirms a little, but it's mostly so he can turn his face away from him. The tip of his visible ear is red.
"Oi." Sasuke pokes him in the ribs, feels Naruto's muscles twitch.
"What? I thought you wanted to top. So top."
He even adds in a fake yawn. Sasuke starts scowling. "You're not going to sneak by on a technicality, damn it."
Naruto tries to buck him off, halfheartedly. "I don't even know what that means!" But he sounds guilty.
"Coward."
Naruto rears back, harder this time. Water sloshes out of the pool. Sasuke hooks Naruto's ankle with his foot and leans on Naruto's back with all his weight, pushing him back down against the edge of the pool. An elbow bumps into his ribs; he was braced for it, though, and the water cushions the impact. He bites down on a shoulder, tightens his hold on Naruto's body until Naruto wheezes and his struggles slow down.
They weren't even fighting for real.
"Bastard," Naruto protests tiredly, panting.
"I'm not the one going 'Oh, you didn't really top me, I let you top me.'"
Naruto growls, but the loud and frantic denial Sasuke was poised to counter doesn't happen. "... Well." He mumbles under his breath, turning his face again. "I guess you did kinda ... win today's spar. Maybe. So."
...Oh.
Naruto's curious.
Sasuke often gets hard, when he fights with Naruto (not that he would ever tell him -- he wears loose pants for a reason) but this time it's not mere 'my blood is already flowing fast anyway and it just so happens he's hot when he's punching at me'.
"Did I, now?" he repeats, amused, but his voice comes out a little breathy. The way Naruto makes a little 'ngh' noise as he hears, though, Sasuke doesn't mind the loss of control on his voice too much.
Actually.
It gives him a weird little twinge. It's not the sort of mood he was expecting -- the two of them roughhousing and trying to gain the upper hand as usual, only with real sex instead of tension sublimated into violence. It's more...
Naruto is... entrusting himself to him. He's nervous about it, and not sure how much it's going to impinge on his manhood -- as Sasuke would have been, had Naruto given him enough time to think that far before he was getting bowled over, that first night. But...
He leans forwards and whispers, "You want to know how it feels to have my cock inside you."
Naruto chokes on his breath. A shudder runs down his back. Sasuke tells himself firmly that he's not allowed to come before he even put it in. He's got to take care of Naruto first. He's got to make him like it. That's the way the game is played today.
but honest reading porn is love but writing it is hate.
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Summary: Ngh *spine-tingles* And they haven't even done anything much yet! *rereads*
The way Sasuke goes about it all bastardly 'you're going to like it, now shut up' and Naruto being curious, but also not really wanting to be (except maybe he kind of does) and Sasuke calling him a coward because he won't acknowledge it. Because he's being a coward, kinda, and also because it's the perfect way to get Naruto to react. For two people who are so different, they're also kind of really alike sometimes, wanting-not-wanting, though of course Sasuke has it down to an art form.
I like how Naruto really is entrusting himself, this experience, to Sasuke. And how Sasuke notices that that's what Naruto is doing. Also, Sasuke stating the obvious in the form of dirty talk is much approved of XD And also that this is a 'game', or maybe a challenge, that the aim of this particular thing is to make Naruto like it. It's so Sasuke, somehow, to think like that. Like it's a mission to be completed. Well, a mission with hot sex and disguised tenderness.
"but honest reading porn is love but writing it is hate." Eh, I think it's like wanking. If you're at it for long, your fingers/hand/arms gets tired, but at the end of it you have a whole lot of pleasure XD
AND YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW MUCH I WANT MORE OF THIS PORNY GOODNESS AND HOW SAD I AM TO HAVE TO LEAVE YOU IN FAVOR OF MY BED ;__; (though I'll probably just be laying there, thinking about the, ahem, progression of this piece rather than falling asleep XD)
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