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HS - Garden pairing babbling
When I say the Karkat ships aren't fixed in this story, what I mean is "why do you keep throwing me bunnies for casual threesomes with just about everyone ever."
Though it'd be real funny, but also a bit sad, considering how much of a romantic he is, if he never really had one solid longterm partner in concupiscent romance -- he does have Gamzee as a lifetime partner, but apart from, um, that one time they accidentally a Dave sandwich, it's not like he ever thinks about Gamzee and sex in the same train of thought without wanting to down about a gallon of brain bleach. Hell, even the Dave sandwich thing had him all "augh! why do I know what my moirail's orgasm face looks like!!" afterwards in between two bouts of post-orgasmic blissful smugness.
And then Dave would of course have told Terezi, who of course started cackling about delicious red-eyed boys in the back of my head all hey why does Dave get to ride the Karkat train and I don't cause really last we dated we were still kind of too young for pails so yeeeah.
That wouldn't last either, though, considering Dave and Terezi are disgustingly in love/pity/partnersincrimeforever and inviting Karkat in would be mostly for the kink and because they were mildly sad for him feeling lonely and kinda down about that regular sex thing he had such a short glimpse of. XD
(I'm not sure I'm even going to use the Dave/Terezi/Karkat thing, though seriously it's one of my favorite threesomes ever in this fandom omgwhydoesn'teveryonewriteit. It'd just be a bit gratuitious and fanservicey and possibly not exactly necessary for the plot. The Dave sandwich, though, it's his fault for being so easy to hate and spadeflirting all over the place. XDDDDDD Totes an interpersonal plot thread that needs to be resolved! Yes. Totally.)
And now I'm trying to figure out longterm pairings for our dear Mr. Vantas, and he's all "Jade/Karkat is cool but so is John/Karkat SOLUTION IS OBVIOUS."
Why are you such a ho, Karkitty. ♥
I'm thinking IF this happens it'll happen after at least three years, so maybe he'll be less "homg i know exactly how i'll recognize myone two true soulmates due to all the movies i've ever watched!!!" and more "... i like him/her/them and it's good for us like this and why am i feeling so guilty and embarrassed about it, it doesn't hurt anyone damn it".
Though there'll be jokes about how the only human he hasn't porked yet is Rose and they might want to get on with it. Their faaaaaaces.
Or maybe while writing Nepeta I'll finally figure out how it's supposed to work in the Karkat => Nepeta direction. Or maybe... idek.
Oh hey, another justification for why Dave/Karkat/Terezi could happen: it's not like Dave can fill a pail with her for the reproduction drones. 9__9
At some point Karkat and Sollux could totes try their hand at black-flirting, only they're too used to being friends for that, they get on each other's nerves pretty often but it never turns into true hate. Hm. Who else... meh. Why are you so pale on everyone, Karkat, it makes it really hard to make things turn either happysexy or hatesexy. :(
Now the reason why the John ships aren't fixed in this story is... well, it depends mostly on Karkat. I think John briefly dated Nepeta in the veil but it never did get very far. Superficially they get along well but there were very few deeper hooks, and in general he still looks to girls first, and there are ~REASONS~ why not Vriska.
Also I've scientifically determined that with humans he's heterosexual but trolls just don't... idk, smell human at all so there's no pheromones yelling NO NO THIS IS A DUDE STOP THE PANTS PARTY.
... only, oh, years and years of social conditioning and personal image, oh, and what he finds visually appealing which uh doesn't really include many manly things... so... still a crapton of issues with liking troll dudes, but anything with troll girls would already have to break through that "no base chemical reaction" barrier and my trolls are hermaphrotidic anyway and don't 100% mesh with human gender ideals in the first place woo alien shenanigans. It'd be hard but for the right person he might be able to compromise, though it'd be more "I love this person and want them to feel good and full-body physical contact is always awesome" than "ohmygod i need to be inside him/her nownownow oh hey I guess I like them tons too". So it wouldn't be instant attraction, it'd have to develop slow. I don't know, it's hard to summarize without making it sound like "I'm not gay i just love YOU" which is a trope that can be equally cute and disturbing... also it does make it so it just so happens two out of two human dudes like the dudes at least part-time, and one of the girls is a full-time lesbian, which is maybe a bit much in a four-people group.
BUT DAMN IT I DIDN'T WORK-TITLE THIS FIC THE HIPPIE COMMUNE FIC FOR NOTHING, OKAY. >O
Fuck statistical averages. >___>
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JoIsBishMyoga: (So John's not gay but trollboys don't ping his guydar in a visceral way.)
Askerian: yeah
Askerian: just in a "not usually interested in guys that way" but there can be more exceptions >>
Askerian: also sometimes karkat pings him as androgynous
Askerian: not as a girl, but just... not male
Askerian: it messes with his perceptions something awful. XD
Askerian: not female, but not male either, and damn pretty! D:
JoIsBishMyoga: There's social-guy vs. physical-guy and even if John is seeing "guy" he can work with it if he's not smelling/tasting "guy".
JoIsBishMyoga: Though androgyny helps.
Askerian: ^^
So then he's like "oh, that was pretty" and then doubletake no no this is karkat! BOY karkat! who is a BOY! heck, a man by now. yes! Not pretty at all, okay why does he have to bow his head in a way that makes his neck interesting oh damn it. Most of the time Karkat is pretty masculine in ways that jive with human ideas of such, but their social constructs don't match perfectly.
/bullshitting 101 >_>;;;
Though it'd be real funny, but also a bit sad, considering how much of a romantic he is, if he never really had one solid longterm partner in concupiscent romance -- he does have Gamzee as a lifetime partner, but apart from, um, that one time they accidentally a Dave sandwich, it's not like he ever thinks about Gamzee and sex in the same train of thought without wanting to down about a gallon of brain bleach. Hell, even the Dave sandwich thing had him all "augh! why do I know what my moirail's orgasm face looks like!!" afterwards in between two bouts of post-orgasmic blissful smugness.
And then Dave would of course have told Terezi, who of course started cackling about delicious red-eyed boys in the back of my head all hey why does Dave get to ride the Karkat train and I don't cause really last we dated we were still kind of too young for pails so yeeeah.
That wouldn't last either, though, considering Dave and Terezi are disgustingly in love/pity/partnersincrimeforever and inviting Karkat in would be mostly for the kink and because they were mildly sad for him feeling lonely and kinda down about that regular sex thing he had such a short glimpse of. XD
(I'm not sure I'm even going to use the Dave/Terezi/Karkat thing, though seriously it's one of my favorite threesomes ever in this fandom omgwhydoesn'teveryonewriteit. It'd just be a bit gratuitious and fanservicey and possibly not exactly necessary for the plot. The Dave sandwich, though, it's his fault for being so easy to hate and spadeflirting all over the place. XDDDDDD Totes an interpersonal plot thread that needs to be resolved! Yes. Totally.)
And now I'm trying to figure out longterm pairings for our dear Mr. Vantas, and he's all "Jade/Karkat is cool but so is John/Karkat SOLUTION IS OBVIOUS."
Why are you such a ho, Karkitty. ♥
I'm thinking IF this happens it'll happen after at least three years, so maybe he'll be less "homg i know exactly how i'll recognize my
Though there'll be jokes about how the only human he hasn't porked yet is Rose and they might want to get on with it. Their faaaaaaces.
Or maybe while writing Nepeta I'll finally figure out how it's supposed to work in the Karkat => Nepeta direction. Or maybe... idek.
Oh hey, another justification for why Dave/Karkat/Terezi could happen: it's not like Dave can fill a pail with her for the reproduction drones. 9__9
At some point Karkat and Sollux could totes try their hand at black-flirting, only they're too used to being friends for that, they get on each other's nerves pretty often but it never turns into true hate. Hm. Who else... meh. Why are you so pale on everyone, Karkat, it makes it really hard to make things turn either happysexy or hatesexy. :(
Now the reason why the John ships aren't fixed in this story is... well, it depends mostly on Karkat. I think John briefly dated Nepeta in the veil but it never did get very far. Superficially they get along well but there were very few deeper hooks, and in general he still looks to girls first, and there are ~REASONS~ why not Vriska.
Also I've scientifically determined that with humans he's heterosexual but trolls just don't... idk, smell human at all so there's no pheromones yelling NO NO THIS IS A DUDE STOP THE PANTS PARTY.
... only, oh, years and years of social conditioning and personal image, oh, and what he finds visually appealing which uh doesn't really include many manly things... so... still a crapton of issues with liking troll dudes, but anything with troll girls would already have to break through that "no base chemical reaction" barrier and my trolls are hermaphrotidic anyway and don't 100% mesh with human gender ideals in the first place woo alien shenanigans. It'd be hard but for the right person he might be able to compromise, though it'd be more "I love this person and want them to feel good and full-body physical contact is always awesome" than "ohmygod i need to be inside him/her nownownow oh hey I guess I like them tons too". So it wouldn't be instant attraction, it'd have to develop slow. I don't know, it's hard to summarize without making it sound like "I'm not gay i just love YOU" which is a trope that can be equally cute and disturbing... also it does make it so it just so happens two out of two human dudes like the dudes at least part-time, and one of the girls is a full-time lesbian, which is maybe a bit much in a four-people group.
BUT DAMN IT I DIDN'T WORK-TITLE THIS FIC THE HIPPIE COMMUNE FIC FOR NOTHING, OKAY. >O
Fuck statistical averages. >___>
edit:
JoIsBishMyoga: (So John's not gay but trollboys don't ping his guydar in a visceral way.)
Askerian: yeah
Askerian: just in a "not usually interested in guys that way" but there can be more exceptions >>
Askerian: also sometimes karkat pings him as androgynous
Askerian: not as a girl, but just... not male
Askerian: it messes with his perceptions something awful. XD
Askerian: not female, but not male either, and damn pretty! D:
JoIsBishMyoga: There's social-guy vs. physical-guy and even if John is seeing "guy" he can work with it if he's not smelling/tasting "guy".
JoIsBishMyoga: Though androgyny helps.
Askerian: ^^
So then he's like "oh, that was pretty" and then doubletake no no this is karkat! BOY karkat! who is a BOY! heck, a man by now. yes! Not pretty at all, okay why does he have to bow his head in a way that makes his neck interesting oh damn it. Most of the time Karkat is pretty masculine in ways that jive with human ideas of such, but their social constructs don't match perfectly.
/bullshitting 101 >_>;;;
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Well remember that the statistical average changes with the population. For example, the percentage of gay males in the US population is far lower than the percentage of gay males in say, the furry fandom (in the US, possibly also internationally). So, it would not surprise me at all to find that the population of gay or bisexual individuals in a small population of gamers turns out to be very, very different from the general world population.
Now I think you had a primer on troll romance a bit ago, I think I need to go read it again. XD
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Then again, AGAIN, they HAVE been socializing nonstop with trolls from age 13 to 16, which are pretty important years re: identifying wiht your peers, so it's not unimaginable that they absorbed some attitudes from each other, and that's why they're all a bit more alright with the idea of at least trying it out, even if it ends up not being their thing. HMMM. >___>
aha! in case you didn't find it. Quick summary used as a background for Naruto quadrant concepts. XD