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Tyr ofic - please give me prompts?

So I know I still owe a bazilion things for that last writing meme, but I've got Tyr & his posse on the brain and I figure the story is never going to get anywhere if I don't even know where it's coming from.

Therefore, I need to explore things. I need to explore the AUness of a world that's a lot like ours except for low-level magic, and a military force that isn't fighting humans from time to time but stronger, faster humanoids on-and-off for centuries. I need to figure out how the war ended (they weren't singlehandedly responsible for it, but, would love to think they helped. I need more characters. I need their childhoods and their missions together and everything.
(note, i already know a lot about the weres and how they work, and about their enemies as well. it's mostly the human society and the characters' pasts i'm wondering about.)

Please ask questions, give me prompts. (not too poetic plz, because i tend to do very badly with those. XD) I'm not promising ficlets as a result, I'll try but I'm just hoping it'll sparkle in that great big cavernous thing that is my subconscious and I can start actually seeing what the hell is going on back there.

Also what do you guys think of "Territory" as a title? ... Actually I'm even more tempted by "Territoriality", I dunno, I like the way it sounds even better. Also the definition brings to mind animal behavior, which, um, yeah. It describes Tyr's behavior pretty well during the story. I'd love to say the story's about bringing social justice to poor werewolves and learning how to fit in blahblah, but the truth of the matter is that it's all about Tyr liking the look of that mountain over there, and deciding that here is home and fuck if i'm gonna leave. XDDD

In other news I am slowly, slowly chipping away at the next teamwork chapter. So to tide you over here's the first lines:

On the way to Naruto's hospital room they saw the kunoichi, the one who summoned wolves, and Sakura thought, 'she's faster than me but she'll be expecting posturing and glaring first,' and started calculating angles to box her in. She could see it unfolding in her head, keep walking like she didn't care and at the last second when they passed each other she would slip her hand free from Sasuke's and lash out, just one strike. She could break boulders. A ribcage should be fine.

Zenko didn't say a thing, barely looked at them, just one quick glance and then nothing. They crossed paths and kept going, ignoring each other.

Sakura still wanted to double back and strike. From the front, from behind -- whatever.

Kon blamed Naruto for his teammate, but she blamed them for Naruto, and when it came down to it she didn't care about how unfair that blaming game was, how unbalanced the losses were, it was sad and it sucked that Maneki had died and she would kill them if they came near Naruto again, if they tried to make it one inch worse for him.

She couldn't stand -- Naruto, broken, she couldn't stand that.

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Tyr and Serrano, mission: kill enemy shiny things

I like 'Territoriality', yeah.

Tyr, myth

"Uncle, what is a be..ser... kur? ker?"

Tyr frowns at the big book he's half-heartedly reading. No, he's got the word wrong. He's been mouthing it to himself for two minutes and he still keeps tripping on the syllables. He rolls on one side to glance at the old man, or what he can see of him over the big old desk and the towers of musty books and loose paper sheets. Mostly, the top of a white-haired head.

The only reply is a scratch of pen on paper. Tyr sighs and goes back to his old book. Even the sentences with the short words in them are all tangled up and twisted around. The awesome gross pictures make up for it, but those guys who did the gross pictures, some of them didn't draw so well and he kind of thinks maybe the text was explaining it... He sighs again, squinting once more and craning his neck to see if it looks better from another angle.

"What does the book say?" his uncle asks, like he's only half listening, but Tyr blinks in surprise at being answered at all.

"... I don't know."

The scratching noise pauses; an eye emerges over the book tower. "What's so complicated about it? ... That's the Hendersson, right? 1954?"

Tyr squirms a little, flattening himself on the carpet and hanging his head. His uncle is the smartest man ever and he thinks this book is very easy, but Tyr can't even read it without tripping over every other syllable.

"Tyr?"

"... I don't know the words. Sir."

His uncle gives him a slow, baffled blink. "Did something happen to the encyclopedia?"

Tyr sighs and pushes himself on hands and knees from his warm spot on the carpet. The encyclopedia is boring. Boring boring boring. It makes even birds of prey and fireman trucks boring, and then the secret texts he was reading aren't secret at all anymore, they've caught the boring from them and he has to go hunting for another book in the library and it's a pain to get down the big ladder holding an old book in his arms.

He's only ever fallen twice, and he's never dropped a book. But the hardwood floor left his butt and elbow all black and blue. At least the noise didn't bother Uncle.

He crawls his way across the carpet because that way he can pretend he's a tiger in the grass. But books are boring prey and his head droops and he sighs a tiny little bit.

"Berserker," says his uncle without warning. Tyr blinks at him. The old man is staring at his paper again, making a couple notes here and there. "From serkr, which is Old Norse for shirt or coat, and the prefix ber-, meaning bear. In earlier studies, ber- was often mistaken for berr-, which means "bare", which people took to mean that the berserkers fought naked, but that was clearly rubbish." A vaguely disdainful snort. "They were warriors reputed for channeling the rage and predatory mindset of wild animals, and being able of feats that normal humans couldn't possibly match -- able, in fact, to match any of the Fair Folk in combat. They were first mentioned in poems dating from the ninth century..."

Tyr smiles a little bit. The poem bit and how the word was made he doesn't care about, but the rest... He curls his toes in the carpet in delight.

"Did they disappear like the. Um. The bigfoot people? ... Did the Fair Folk kill them?"

His uncle's voice is distant again as he scratches away on paper. "Most certainly not. They didn't disappear; they were a myth -- something that never existed."

"... Oh."

Tyr abandons the encyclopedia hunt and crawls back to his book. He stares at the awesomely gross picture a few second longer. It was too awesome. Should have guessed there weren't really bear people. He silently flops on his back on the carpet and stares up at the ceiling.

He sighs quietly and slinks out of the room. It's just under Uncle's window but maybe he can play bear-man in the garden, if he growls very quietly.

Cute! <3

I think Territoriality is a good title. Though, is that an actual word? XD

Hmm, I'll just give you comes out and you can see whether you like?

1) Orphan who was saved by someone in the military and so joins. >.> Original yes I know.

I dont' actually know why Tyr and friends are werewolves, sorry. So bare with me. >.<
2) Maybe the war ended cuz of the werewolves? something like that faster stronger humaniods are kinda vulnerable to the werewolves, who are a recent freak of nature?
- Did you watch Black Blood Brothers? About vamps, and there's a "true blood" kind and a more recent mutant strain of it where whoever is sucked of blood either dies (cuz of over suckage yes that is so a word) or gets turned immediately. The true blood kind is only passable in a blood exchange thing, I think.
=> So something about maybe a sick wolf swipes at a human and that human turns into a werewolf and starts to infect ppl like crazy because he went mad? o.o But it's special only to him. No one else could infect ppl that way and the future wolves are made by the usual birth thing.

On a side note can I ask you your definition of ofics and AU? >.< If you have an AU where at least two or three (out of a cast of 7 original characters from the series) have changed (i.e. darker, less 'simple') personalities, and you've added a couple more OCs of your own, does that count still that AU or ofic?

So angsty for teamwork... So beautiful. T.T

Yes, it's a word. XD Even has an entry in the dictionary and everything.
noun
1. territorial quality, condition, or status.
2. the behavior of an animal in defining and defending its territory.
3. attachment to or protection of a territory or domain.

Tyr and company were deliberately infected so they would gain an equal footing with their enemies (i'm not even saying an edge because it's not.) They were also given drugs so they wouldn't ever transform, because an actual werecreature is WAY too unpractical for the military. There's the instincts to deal with and the full moon thing is really damn inconvenient. But Tyr's kidneys started bitching about the meds so he had to retire, same for a couple others, and when the story starts he's about to transform for the first time even though technically he's been contaminated for several years.

The presence of sudden on-equal-grounds fighters was for a lot in overturning the flow of the war, yes. I still need to define exactly what happened, but it's not a situation where a few heroes in key positions win everything. They had huge armies on both sides. ... mergh, heroes are more interesting. XD

No, no, it's an ofic, I said AU because the universe the story happens in is a universe that's alternate from ours -- it's our world map, humans are still mostly the same as our humans, and a lot of other social and technological things are the same in that world as they are here. Just with magic being real, is all, so there are divergences. I didn't mean AU as in the story is an AU fanfic of a specific canon; the characters were inspired by a specific canon indeed but by this point it's so altered it doesn't even have names or appearances in common (just some very heavy resemblances yes okay *coughcough*). I should probably have chosen another term, it was confusing. ^^;

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No no, I meant in general lol, not for this Terrioriality fic. A friend and I were talking and she semi-convinced me I should go with my half cracked idea based on her Ouran cosplay pic. Out of the 7 original cast of Ouran, I need to change the personalities of at least 2-3 quite heavily. And the setting is of course in some alternate realite/world place. Would you classify that as AU still? Or is there another term for it?

Re: Terrioriality, Tyr killed one of the leaders? Or there was some op where he and gang helped bring down a leader or two? That should be annoying for the other side, so maybe they were forced to admit that man-made wevewoles = bad news and maybe they should reconsider the war?

How about ficlets about when they became werewolves how they dealt and adapted?

Hmmm! yes, I'll probably write about the contamination and stuff. The actual transformation will all be in the story itself, I think, so likely not, because it'll depend on plot and I don't have a lot of it yet.

I remember reading your first part of this but it's been awhile and I don't have the time to go back but I'm curious and going to ramble in a stream of consciousness kind of way, feel free to ignore or skip most of the following or pick out something from the blah (and maybe remind me if you've answered something already but I'm an idiot and forgot). XD Oh, and how about instead of AU you label it an AR?

Have any/can children be affected? If so do they still grow like regular children or are they stunted/accelerated? Do they grow seemingly normally but are stronger/faster than they would have been otherwise? When/if they're affected just how immediate are changes? How likely would it be that they're picked up by an established group (or, government?) vs being put down for their own good/the good of others? If picked up, how does their education differ from that of someone older who gets infected?

When transforming; does body mass change? How so and how much? A large mass increase along with strength/agility but little change in weight? Minimal mass increase but a huge increase in density?

Does transforming affect hair and nails (as in, do you have to get them clipped and cut after shapeshifting) or do you pop out the same as you popped in? How quick is the transformation? Does coat color correlate with hair color? How would this affect markings (like socks on the paws etc)? Can the transformation be shortened with time/practice? It is painful (like in werewolf in london?) or not (like in blood and chocolate?)? If it is painful, how much and how so (muscle aches? breaking and rotating bones?)?

How do injuries in one form translate to the other? Is healing accelerated at all? If so, in both forms or just one? Are their lifespans increased? Decreased? What are the limitations to their mortality? Same as any being, or do they require a silver bullet to the heart/decapitation/their tails lopped off/a combination of/etc?

How many differences are there from natural wolves aside from human intelligence? Does the angle of their hips allow them bipedal movement? Are they stuck with paws or to they have elongated toes with pads that allow for more range of movement and grasping? Opposable thumb: yea or nea? How are senses affected in both forms - as humans do they see an increase in scent/hearing/etc? As weres a decrease from normal wolves due to human influence? Can they perceive colors as wolves? Is their color vision affected in human form? Is it easier or harder to place scents with a human brain as opposed to a canine one which is more suited to the task, or do they become proficient in such things automatically because of the infection?

This is getting a bit long so I think I'll stop here... *sheepish*

Thanks for all the questions ^^ I know a lot about the werewolves and the bad guys's species already, it's mostly the rest of this 'verse I want to figure out.

I haven't decided anything yet about children because the main cast are all soldiers who signed on for this, no children were experimented on, and the were children were likely born this way and have protective families and centuries of culture to draw from. At the moment it's more of a point of trivia than plot relevant so I haven't thought on it much. I don't think they'd grow old any faster though, and perhaps they'd even slow down a little bit, considering a healthy were can live up to 120 years. then again animals have a shorter infancy and old age period compared to their adult period, so who knows, maybe a were's growth would reflect that.

Mass/weight augments. Science can't figure it out. It's magic.

Some time earlier I had a AAAA moment about hair on weres so i'm just going to go Nevermind A Wizard Did It. Though about hair color, they both affect each other progressively. For example Tyr starts with brown hair and ends up brown-gray because wolf fur has guard hairs and undercoat, and the undercoat is usually gray, and Xiang will start growing orange/gold streaks. Gabe's hair will darken a little but his fur as an animal will go lighter and more red as well. It's not all one way, more of a blend, though it takes several months or perhaps a couple years to achieve balance.

Injuries stay though transforming helps them heal faster but once changin's done you need to eat RIGHT NOW because you'll be starving, perhaps literally. They're bigger than normal animals and they can take any shape on a spectrum between wolf and man, though the more toward the middle you get and the harder it is to stabilize, the pendulum wants to swing free! senses aren't as good in human form but still very good.

And, I have to eat, so 'm stopping there XD;;; thank you for the questions, hon.

Maybe I can get some useful questions here for you....

So.. they're fighting stronger and faster humanoids. What are these humanoids? Are there were critters? are they some other supoer natural? Are they a human breed that has just, over the years, selectively evolved to be stronger and faster? How? Maybe they're actually aliens that have been living in/on/around earth for several hundred years and have been interbreeding with the humans of this area? (maybe not to much breeding... maybe they're like a parasite/symbiot? found in the blood, infected by blood transmition.. affecting heir host's minds... and bodies.. perhaps the strain infecting the boys has been scienced down to nothing but a whisper of instincts, rather then some politically scheming creature... maybe the ones in this part of the work (wild once, I mean) were ones who said "screw you and your war, we're defectiing") What's their goal? are they wanting to dominate the world (if aliens or even just humans)... are they actually reacting to something that the 'good guys' have done? are they over reacting? Or are they fighting for survival? I"m asking the wrong questions to get around to the idea I'm haivng, so I'll ask: Who's actually the good guy here? IS there a clearly defined good guy and bad guy?

oh, I didn't mean to focus so much on the idea of ALIENZ, but some interesting ideas in there I think...

XD;;; I pretty much know what the enemies are. Sorry, I should have said so, it's mostly the human society and the characters' pasts i'm wondering about. But you're right, the idea of alien things living on earth, especially for several centuries starting from our middle age, that's rather interesting. not what i'm writing but still something i'd love to read. XD

Bah XD and here I thought I'd bark up a different tree then everyone else was. ;)

Glad you likwd the idea, I may have to steal it back for myself then :3

Hmmmm... Okay, useful questions, take two!

This is a world that's seen war for a long time. Who's the fighting been between? is it two countries? (ie, say, America and Mexico?) If so, what's the rest of the world think? or is it more of a black and white idea where you're either with us, or against us, and everyone takes a part of it? (kinda liek the world wars)... or maybe the world us such that there ARE no other factions? Maybe the two factions have taken over the rest of the world so that there is, only (for example) America and Japan (by name at least. I don't figure the South Africans care much what country claims to own them)

How has being in such a continual setting of war/prewar/post war effected the people? Is a 'war survival kit' something that's a part of every home and vehicle? are children taught in schools what to do in the event of war? what kind of views do the government try to press upon people? Are people scared and paranoid? How long has this last bout of fighting gone on? is 'the war ' business as usual? How long has the current peace (if any) gone on and how is the average person dealing with it?

How has war effected the language? What I mean is... "Nazi" these days means someone who's severe and fanatical about something. And is derrogatory. Are there 'racial slurs'/stereotypes that exist in the language ? how do people use about them? Once upon a time, nigger was a word that just mean black person... nothing negative about it. These days, you get labled racist if you so much as murmur the word.

TL;DR - How has the state of warfare effective the language and the people over the last few centuries?

Mmm...I would suggest "Territorial" rather than "Territoriality", because the latter is a very rarely used word, and in an "Is that really a word?" way, rather than a cool way. At seven syllables, it's also kind of an awkward mouthful.

I really like the teamwork bit, especially the insight into Sakura's strategizing, and then the reasons for it. I think the syntax of the last line is very effective as well.

I like "Territorial" better myself.

For what it's worth, I disagree; I think "Territoriality" is fine, and "Territorial" wouldn't be as good.

I have a couple of questions that popped into my head if you'd like to hear them.

What's the public opinion on the war and/or how it ended? Is it controversial? Were concessions made? If so do people think they were worth it, or do some think that they shouldn't have 'given up' yet?

Also, what type of schools did the characters go to? Homeschool, public school, private ect. and how were they different that schools today (if they are) in curriculum and atmosphere. How far along did each get before joining up?

Oooh, chance to help with worldbuilding. Me likey.

How has the presence of magic affected the development of technology? Has it advanced it, retarded it, or has it had no real effect? Is there technology from our reality that is replaced by magic? Has magic allowed the development of technology that doesn't/could never exist here? Is there a difference in technological development between the humans and the superhumans? Do the superhumans use a magic-based method of communication or a technology-based one? Same with weapons, transportation, etc. Is it possible to sense the presence of magic or a magic user - does magic have a "sound", "taste" ,"feel", or "smell"? How do you fight with magic? How do you fight against magic? How do you defend against magic - does it have some kind of weakness (can it be rendered ineffective by iron, for example)? Do magic wielders have the same weakness (continuing the example, is iron toxic to superhumans)?

Can humans use magic? If so, is it true magic (manipulating elements, conjuring, casting glamories, etc) or an ability that is just referred to as "magic" (psionic or psychic abilities like telekinesis and telepathy)?

Do werewolves run the risk of conflict with real wolves, or is there an instinctive hierarchy of sorts? Are werewolves the only weres, or are there other kinds(in ancient China there were stories of weretigers that were almost identical except for the animal)? Is there a required "neutral land" along roads and/or between territories to allow movement? Are the "natural" or "wild" weres neutral in the war, do they fight for only one group, or do different packs fight for whichever group "shares" their territory?

If you'd like some inspiration from a preexisting world, you should read the Halfblood Chronicles. It has a lot of similarities to your world here - humans and "semihumans" (in this case, the titular halfbloods) fighting against a "superior" magic-wielding race (elves). The only real difference is that it's less of a war and more of a rebellion, since the elves have already conquered and enslaved humankind. Also, there are philosophical lighting-wielding dragons.

Tyr prompts - what about kids? Not just having them (although that might be a concern once Serrano and Gabe start doing the horizontal mambo, assuming that they weren't been sterilized when they were turned into weres) but also what is their reaction to them? Is there some part of them that reacts as a wolf would to a human child (yum, easy prey!) or would they instead become even more protective - or would their attitudes change at all?

Serrano and Gabe turn into different animals so them reproducing is not really a concern. XD

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Gabriel doesn't know why he asked that secretary to take a look for him. He cut all ties when he left, it's not going to change anything if there's a "married" or "deceased" tacked on after their names or if the address has changed. He's not going back either way.

Macha Polemia Wright, née McCornac, mother of Olivia Isabel Turner, née Wright, and Victoria Grace Wright. No Cameron Gabriel Wright to complete the trio, of course. The paperwork went through just fine.

Olivia Isabel Turner, mother of Senua Turner. Senua is one year and a couple of weeks old. She might or might not be walking yet. She might or might not have his sister's eyes.

The thing is, he used to yell and scream he'd never go back, he'd never want to go back. He used to whisper it to himself, curled up frozen and bleeding, to remind himself that between his life and his his pride there was no real choice; pride it was.

Looking at the series of numbers that write out a birth date, for the first time he really know.

He's not going back home, want it or not. He knows three other Black Ops who went psycho just this month. He knows as much as he hates the old bat he can't make his mother pick up a rifle and put a bullet in his brain. She would, that's not the problem, he trusts her for that, and he trusts her to know it was the only thing she could have done and to go on living because her granddaughter needs her grandma. The problem is that as much as he hates and resents her, he can't do that do her. He'd have to hate himself.

The problem is that he read things about his particular strain of devil's bargain and now they won't leave his head.

"Almost half of the cubs die before they leave their mother."

"Cannibalism by adult males is one of the major causes of death."

He's not going back home. He doesn't care how well the suppressors work. They'll fail. They fail for everyone, given the time.

He can't go back home. Back home now there's Senua Turner, one year old and a bit.

She was born long after he left, long after he sent the paperwork that made him and his birth family dead to each other. It's not like he was ever her uncle anyway.

He crunches the paper into a ball and throws it in the trash and smiles at the secretary and walks away. It's okay. He didn't even want to go home and he hates children anyway. It's okay.

Serrano, counseling.

I don't know, I just think a high school (or wherever she went) would be confused about her lack of strong emotional expression.

Gabe, declined/rejected.

He seems charming, so of course I want to see a time when his persona didn't work.

Dion, wine.

. . . because of his name, darnit. I've never been good at prompts.

Xiang, catcall.

She's attractive and ruthless. I'd like to know about her relationship with her sexuality - does she ignore it or use it? But I put catcall just because she seems like she's very good at putting down idiots.

Tyr, sharing.

. . . okay, I want to read more about little!Tyr.

Do any of them have siblings? Their reactions to the gang being 'turned' would be interesting to read.

Like... was there a Solo for Dian when he was growing up (maybe there was, they both went to be weres and he didn't survive? or they both got turned and he'll show up later as a dun-dun-DURR plot point)?
I can't remember what you said about Gabe, apart from he got disowned, but did he have a load of older siblings who doted on him and still talk to him sometimes?
Did Serrano have anyone, or was she like Trowa and got thrown out the back of a circus wagon as a baby and grew up in care?
Did Xiang have childhood friends? Or an older sibling figure she looked up to and wanted to copy? (Actually, that would probably work better for Serrano, since i remember a scene you wrote where Xiang does it to get out of meeting a guy)
Was Tyr all alone apart from his uncle? Because that would seriously mess with his social interaction skills, and I think maybe his wolf would then go 'no, I'm a lone wolf who doesn't know how to play nice, I will kill you now'. Childhood friends who lived nearby and taught him how to share?

For the missions together thing... do weres get teamed together a lot, or do they get sent on solos because of the Alpha issue? If they do get teamed up, how big the team? I can see issues if it's just 2 guys, unless they have a fist fight before they get sent to decide on the team leader. Or would they just obey orders from the higher ups because THEY are the alpha, regardless of the weres relative strengths?

Did the weres ever have to do undercover work, like the boys did in Gundam? Or could they not do that because hey, it's a full moon, I can't come to your secret-meeting-which-is-really-important-and-will-make-you-trust-me because I need to shave my legs. And arms. And whole body actually. Lots.

I take it that they all grew up speaking the same language, as I can't remember you mentioning any accents yet. So is there just one world language, or did they get taught multiple language from an early age? How many continents/countries are in your world by the way? How many of them got dragged into the war? You said a while ago that the war has been going on 500 odd years, so I'm guessing all of them at one point or another? Or did some of them manage to stay neutral?

And in thoese countries, are there Presidents? Prime Ministers? Kings and Queens? Similar to Gundam where it's all military dictatorship and the royalty is only there to look pretty and be killed/saved?

And I think how to war ended is going to be affected by what STARTED the war. Unless it really has been 500 years and no one knows/remembers/cares. What did start the war by the way? (prompt?)

I hope some of that helps maybe? It's the sort of details I get stuck on when I try to write a story, which is why I then never get round to writing them ¬_¬;;

Also, since I'm just re-reading all the story parts you've got, you have Dian say Jesus in the second installment, so what religions are around? And how have weres affected that? I mean, deliberately altering someones DNA and 'natural' shifters aren't excatly Bible friendly I don't think.

Also, not past or mission related, but how do they all think about each other? Because each part is POV, and you keep swapping what you have them call/think about each other, so if they call each other by their last name, wouldn't they think of them like that too?

Where did the fighting take place, because you have Tyr mention 'behind lines', both enemy and his. Because I think that would have an affect on how people view the war, as in, oh, it's over in so-and-so, so it doesn't affect my day to day life directly right now so I'm not bothered much.

How aware is the general military of weres? Because when Tyr is talking to Reynolds he says the new guys knows he is an experiment, and nothing more. So if 'normal' military guys know about it, then they'd probably tell their families, which mean civilians would know. But I get the impression that the civilians DON'T know, so is it a secret that only those involved know about?

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I think christianity, judaism and islam are still around but oooooh shit, I have to figure out how elfthings and company figure into it. Maybe they took the place of angels as "God did them first as a trial run but He doesn't love them as much as He does humans", and that would add a whole new level of ugliness and impossibility to peace. D: (mostly Dian said Jesus because I wasn't thinking about religion at all XD;) But if they have the Bible then I don't see why they'd necessarily care about what it says more than what we real-life humans do. Thou Shall Not Kill is still pretty much ignored whenever there's a war rolling around, so if they couldn't find a way to justify genetic experiments with sme bible verses taken out of context they'd likely just go "well it's too bad we can't measure up to IDEALS, but reality isn't ideal so there. We're guilty of sin, yeah, whatever, shut up and let's do this."

I was still floundering with names and last names when I was writing so it's messy. Tyr thinks of people how they told him to adress them; Dian goes with first names because he likes to be an irritating ass and also he takes pride in being the least military-mindset military guy ever; Serrano goes with last names (and people tend to use her last name because she rarely gives her first.); Gabe is often called Gabe because he emits a "trust me, i'm a friendly teddy bear" vibes (his real first name is cameron but that's what his family called him so he's trying to detach from that identity), and Xiang, well, Xiang is her family name and she doesn't give out her first name because 1) private and 2) westerners never realize that her family name comes first and then they go and call her Lin to her face and, no.

On the ground fighting takes place mostly in europe/russia but they have long-range weapons à la nuclear bomb, and both sides have used them, so nowhere is really safe.

General military and civilian population aren't aware of weres; if they talked about them then the elfthings would have heard about it and maybe designed effective countermeasures, so they kept them ~shrouded in mystery~. XD; pretty much the only people who knows are the scientists who had the idea, the people in charge of special ops units, and the special ops guys themselves, who know it's not likely they're going to survive the treatment and yet chose to go into it with eyes wide open; they usually have the mindset that they chose to shorten their lifespan pretty dramatically, so they might as well kill tons of enemy elfthings before they kick the bucket. They're generally not very inclined to go over to the enemy and talk, and they can't be enspelled into talking so they're less of a security risk than, oh, just about anyone else.

Re: family, the main thing : partly adult at 16 and can enter the army. But you're not a full adult until you're 20 (you can go to boot camp at 16, end up on a battlefield before you turn 17, but you can't vote or marry. Mm fucked up.) the were treatment is so dangerous and has such a high mortality rate that they require you to sign a family repudiation/emancipation thing so no one will have grounds to sue when/if you die or go crazy.

*Tyr: only child, no cousins. Met a few kids at school but he was raised by an absent-minded old professor type so... yes, his social skills suck. XD
*Dian: they all died when the elfthings razed his city to the ground. I haven't defined how many people, though. Perhaps a little brother. Lots of cousins.
*Serrano: has a few siblings, still alive, but they never were very close due to age difference (i don't know if she's the oldest or what). Her parents are still alive, but when she signed the paperwork I think there was subdued "you are not our child anymore" ouchies. She had friends but they lost track of each other.
*Gabe: two big sisters, but he cut all ties when he left and since he's assuming he's going to transform into a crazy monster he doesn't want to come back and be around his oldest sister's kids.
*Xiang is an only child, her parents wanted more (max is two children in their China) but she was a difficult birth and her mom couldn't have a second one, which made them even more clingy. She has extended family but hasn't seen them in years. Xiang has better friends now than she did then, because now she's around like-minded people. She's best friends with a girly, giggly secretary type who once stomped on a guy's hand with her stiletto heel because he wouldn't take no for an answer. XD I need to find that girl a name.

People in Black Ops aren't really weres yet, they are contaminated but they don't transform due to drugs, there's less issues with full moons and instincts, so if the situation demands it they do team up. Mostly they're hit-and-run, guerilla tactics, very fluid style of combat, because they're not that many and the enemy shouldn't be allowed to have a chance to take out a huge chunk of their numbers in one go. So, they start out with normal platoons but depending on location and need, they sometimes partner up, or team up, with each other, and sometimes they go alone. But being military, they always have a chain of command, and they're all united by their need to kick major elfthing ass. Not saying they don't have troubles sometimes (see Xiang and Dian) but that's what you get from highly competent and motivated specialists who have to be independent enough to be able to work solo; the animal instincts are there but it's not something they can't get over.

No undercover work, because they're different species and the differences are noticeable. Gabe might be able to pass, then again he's too hairy, but the rest of them would never work.

Xiang speaks Cantonese and Tyr Norse (no separate norway/finland/sweden on this world map but he left when he was young so he's forgetting how to be fluent), but due to the war a global language emerged a lot faster than it's doing in our world. (no clue if it's english, or spanish or french this time around, i'll decide that later when i figure out history.) There are accents, but i'm not seeing any of them with a big one yet.

Some countries never engaged the enemy directly but there's no true neutral because that tends to piss off the big players and then they go and force troops, weapons and money out of them.

Haven't decided on the names of leaders, but it's a military state. It's almost impossible for someone who isn't at least a Colonel or General to be elected to any position of political power at a country level, even if it's technically legal, because people would see someone who hasn't served and/or hasn't managed to rise in rank as a coward without leadership skills.

The war started over territorial issues but no one is sure what event sparked it. It *had* been coming for a while though. I'm having a hard time figuring out how they managed to end it short of total annihilation because there's a lot of bad blood and cultural misunderstandings on both sides. ~_~;

it helped tons! thank you ^__^

Yay, glad I could help!
And sorry for making you think of all those new angles, but not too much if it means you can think of ficlets ^__~

Just one more thing. In fic you've had them say that they're in America. And Xiang is from China, which I assume is on Americas side? And the fighting takes place in Europe/Russia, which I'm guessing is between the two major powers...

So where ARE the enermy?

(Sorry, make that two more things XD)

Whats going on with the entertainment industry, since most able bodied young men who would otherwise be pop singers/dancers/movie actors would have been drafted at some point and possibly been disfigured in some small way (stray bullets, broken bones from training, muscles in weird places, etc, or an iniability to deal with loud music and flashy lights)
Or could they opt out of the military to provide a service to keep the civilians sane and happy? How hard was popular culture hit by the constant fighting?

Just a quick thing: If everyone's at war, wouldn't people be dying and governments be wanting bodies to throw at the front lines? So, wouldn't China's two child limit never have existed in the first place? Unless there's a resource drain, or you can get special permission to reproduce more if you sign your kids up for conscription?

I like Territoriality a bit better, Territory sounds too plan and simple to me. Like, too general to actually mean anything, or like when people are really vague because they want to sound smart but don't actually know what they're talking about. Territoriality might be bulky, but at least you have to think a bit more about it.

Maybe you could think out a few other black ops people to put in the background. Like, people they've known from missions who haven't opted out, given up their meds, or they explored the other after-war options that Tyr and co. didn't. Or some that have died, or are dying. What's the military doing with them, officially? What are they doing with themselves?

I'm also thinking that people must have some strange reasons for signing up for an experiment like that- maybe someone who's terminally ill and needs to kick as much ass as possible before they go down. How would being a were effect that person? Would it make them live longer or shorter? Or a person that is driven to the most dangerous, suicidal work but can't fight under normal conditions- they're handicapped, somehow maybe. Someone's maimed in battle and in a last ditch effect they sign up for super senses to make up for it and still be useful. Maybe someone's who's blind, or missing a limb. Maybe they don't live as long as someone like Tyr, but they might make an impact on your story or characters at some point. More background cast, please! also, that sets up a nice background for your characters and where they're coming from too.

I'd be really interested in hearing more about how the government is trying to deal with this hyper military in the first Time Of Peace. and how can they be so sure it's peace? aren't they both suspicious, after 500 years of fighting, that the other side may really be putting up a front, so both would be somewhat preparing for a back stab and not completely demilitarizing?

And to stop the war short of annihilation, there would need to be some kind significant event that happened. Maybe a non military catalyst, in addition to humans getting an equal footing. Like a peace movement that started in the elf-place, or a group of humans/elves that have broken off to found a mini-example colony, where people live peacefully together and it got a lot of coverage. There will always be the people who do crazy stuff like that, no mater the bloodshed between two cultures. So basically, what caused them to switch to peace and how are the military's handling it? It also can't be good to switch from a military based economy to a domestic- that's gotta be hurting someone.

Thanks for the open discussion, world building is fun times. =D <3

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Maybe you should put up a poll for the title? This whole Territory vs. Territorial vs. Territoriality thing is very suitable for one... And you maybe you can find a new name alogether!

For the record, I vote Territorial

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- What happened to Tyr's parents, and how did he end up with Uncle? (or maybe how did Uncle get saddled with Tyr, since the man obviously doesn't know the first thing about kids)

- Have any of them ever seen/wanted to see anyone from before they joined the army after they were contaminated?

- Were there ever people who wanted humans and super-humans to co-exist? If so, what happened to them? Why is Gabe not one of them? (Or is he, in his own head?)

- How did colonialism go down in this world? Did Europe try to conquer/settle the rest of the world? Who were the "barbarians"? Is their world as Euro-centric as ours is? How did the whole having multiple species of humans put a kink in this?

- Did the countries evolve mostly as ours did? Or are there minor differences, like Germany + China being split in two, India + Pakistan + Bangladesh remaining one country, France never going through the revolution, or doing so in a much more peaceful manner, etc.

- Prompt: There is a baby staring at him/her from behind the cans of baked beans.

- Prompt: One of the Tyr Pack + a fair folk/superhuman/whatever-they-are talk. What they even called, anyway?

PS: Has the Tyr Nano gotten Garou out of your head? XDD

still, yes! I need to get back to it actually XD;; oops.

-Tyr's parents died of not-elves. Uncle isn't really his uncle but his MOTHER's uncle, but there was no other family to take him in, so. >D

-As in, wished they could see X person again? Likely so. I don't know if that actually happened. The only ones this could happen to would be Serrano and Xiang, because Tyr and Dian don't have anyone left and Gabe is pretending he doesn't either.

-Sure. likely they got killed in the face by the two sides for being traitors. I mean it still exists even now, or else there would be no peace, but it's not really well-accepted... hmm.
Gabe is not one of them because he hates the no-elves very very very very VERY much.

-colonialism was more of a "holy fuck the elves are killing everyone quick escape to america". XD Bigger crowds, and not only spanish, english and some french but smaller countries too, but they were more focused on saving themselves than on destroying the natives, so there's still big inca and First Nation settlements/museums of preserved history&lore/living descendents as well.
most other species were dead or dying out by that time, i think. Hmmm. Actually... maybe the war could be brought to an end due in part to the intervention of a third race... *lets idea simmer in a corner to see what happens*

-countries evolved differently, i still got to draw the map. one thing is that all of america north and south is what people mean when they say "the states". states aren't cut up the same way either, and likely a lot of them have different names.

Whee prmpts! thank you, i'll see what i can do with it.

PS: ahahahaha no way in hell. bitch is clingy. T^T

Tyr's parents died of not-elves
Oooooooh. *___* Shiny.... Does he remember them at all? I don't suppose Uncle (even if he's not really an Uncle...) even KNEW anything about them (he's so clueless XDD), much less actually told the poor kid anything about them >_>;;;

they got killed in the face by the two sides for being traitors
Ah. Of course. =/
I'm curious as to why Gabe hates the not-elves! I don't want to know if that will spoil me (haha, countdown to how long this resolution lasts... 10, 9, 8...), but it is making me go HMMMMM and !! and HHHRRMMM.

holy fuck the elves are killing everyone quick escape to america... more focused on saving themselves than destroying the natives
That... That is so COOL!! AAAAAAAA I WANNA KNOW MORE!! SHINY SHINY WORLDBUILDING =33
What hell happened when people's religions clashed? O_O What language do they all have in common? Is it normal for people to know more than one/two/three languages?

maybe the war could be brought to an end due in part to the intervention of a third race
Woah, woah, third race? AFAIK, We have humans, not!elves, and the rare bigfoot. Is there another race?

Tell me about Serrano and Dian's families! I just realised I don't know anything about them ^^

Was there anyone Xiang ~~liked~~ didn't loathein her clan before she joined the army? (I am having visions of Xiang being made to deal with her clan again u.u)

What happens to half-breeds? Does whether they are a product of rape/mutually consensual sex affect how society sees them?

What happens to people (men and women) who are raped by the other side? What about people who were injured/maimed? People with PTSD/other mental disorders?

What do people think about abortion? I'm guessing sexism isn't as pronounced in this world, because every pair of hands helps...

Tell me about the culture/s of the not-elves! Are they much more Asian/African-based because that's where they "colonised"? Or are they just not enough like us for me to wrap my head around >_>
Are they more magic-dependent than regular humans?

I personally like 'Territoriality', it kinda rolls off the tongue.

De-lurking to ask: Is there any sort of 'respected enemy' on the not!elves side? I ask because I was thinking of this and GW and wondered if there was a Zechs or Trieze analogue anywhere. Or was the conflict so long running and deep-seated that even being impressed with what a cunning bastard they were was out of the question?

What was the not!elves perspective? Do they view humans as beneath them? Do they hate the humans as much as the humans hate them, or do they see the war as about something completely different?
And forgive me if you have mentioned this and I don't remember, but how exactly did the war end? Complete annihilation of the not!elves/cold war/peace treaty? If it is a peace treaty, how do both sides stand to deal with each other?

Hope that sparks something, I'll be interested in any answers you have :)

yay! a vote for territoriality.

Some elves might do the respected enemy thing but i think they're in the minority. this is a really bitter war. or was, until recently. i need to figure out what changed it enough to allow for peace. ~___~
(i had a relena analogue of all things in my head and she's an elfthing but i'm trying not to let her speak or the plot and themes will really get too close to GW.)

they do view humans as beneath them in some ways, and in other ways just despise/resent humans for their pollution and overbreeding and other issues. also their lack of magic just feels hella weird, borderline disturbing. ... will have to develop this more, it's kinda cliche at the moment. >_>;

And no, i don't know how the war ends, which is something I really, REALLY ought to know. .__.; i mean, peace treaty yes but i don't know how heavy the losses were or what they agreed on in the end. i think a lot of people kind of want to give them europe and build a wall and ignore the fuck out of each other but -- ooh, i just figured something. they already attempted the wall thing. It didn't work, so now they're thinking cooperation and discussion. but ahh how did they get there... @__@; i mean, it's okay for the plot if they're not there quite yet and just negotiating stuff, but it has to be a possible choice, how do i get them to consider it... argh.

thank you very much for the questions, it's a big help to focus my ponderings. I tend to get really hazy otherwise. XD;;

I kinda got the impression that the were-things were fairly instrumental to resolution of this epic mexican standoff. Would that resolution have been the giant fuck-off wall, or the current peace? Because I could totally see them as guerrilla soldiers behind enemy lines (and the wall!) and making retaliatory strikes for whatever reason (factions in either the humans or not!elves camps stirring up trouble?)
How that all goes from Dion blowing things up to peace I don't know though. Unless the thought that the stupid beastly humans actually could do some significant (shapeshifty) form of magic (why could this threaten them? Maybe the bastard form of magic is antithetical to their own? Maybe the shape-shifters are immune to the elf head-bendy magic?) scared the not!elves pantsless and they sued for peace.

I really would like to see some of the not!elves point of view, because I love politic-ing in my fic - but yeah, a relena-elf would make things very GW.
And I also get the feeling that a lot of the politic niceties happened before the fic is set and any current politics is not necessarily relevant to Tyr's current story. How on earth did they get to an agreed peace if all the human leaders come with military credentials?

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Hee, thank you, those are great questions.

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