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It's not even a trouble related to post-timeskip versus teamworkverse differences this time. (well, not much.) It's just, I used to be able to see Sakura falling in love with Naruto, but I'm forgetting how that feels, how to write it right. I try and try to add it to my fic, but to me it feels pasted on. I think the only time I truly managed a Sakura=>Naruto moment I liked and could see as about to develop into more, it was during the Progression ficlets, when they're in her bedroom watching pictures. Okay, in TW2 that bit in the rain and the alley worked too IMHO, but since then...

NaruSasu... Actually, they need a little more development, too, but that's because they just DON'T TALK. Their bond is so intense, AND I have no trouble writing them as forgetting the outside world while they sex each other up (though now I think I should have added a little bit of Sasuke jealousy during the shower scene, it would have been easy for him to go "oh, you only want sex with me when Sakura is there" but that's an issue I think I could work on during the Suna fic so it's not too horrible.) But. Making them talk (not argue) and romance and quiet understanding moments. I should. Need. Yes.

SasuSaku is going fine -- it's very easy to write Sakura as being in love with Sasuke, and it's also easy enough to have Sasuke slowly warming up to her and showing her little signs of approval -- it's not love yet, and he'll never be passionate about her, but they can interact and function well enough. In canon he does show her discreet little signs of approval, all sneaky-like, and it's easy enough to build on that. They both have this quality that makes me think any love between them would be understated, wordlessly understood but rarely openly acknowledged, and that's what I like about writing Sasuke, he bottles up everything.

It's super-easy to see Naruto=>Sakura. But I forget how to do it the other way around. She likes him, and she's exasperated by him, and she approves of many things (though she'd never tell him easily), and she would defend him against anything and anyone, but, I don't know.

I think part of it is my inability to find much sakura=>naruto in the manga. Maybe I'm blind, maybe my sense of subtext is only seeing one kind of spectrum, and it fails to engage my imagination. I can see Sakura caring more and more about Naruto, it's plain as day. I can see her sitting at his side when he's depressed and nudging him with her elbow and making him feel better. I can see her laughing at his jokes even though she knows she shouldn't show him she finds that kind of thing funny. I could even see her punching Sasuke in the face because he treats Naruto like a dick, taking Naruto's side over Sasuke's because Sasuke deserves to be shown she's not a mindless yes-Sasuke-sama drone anymore and Naruto has earned her unwavering support.

I can't see it as romantic. Actually, I can, but only as lighthearted flirting, maybe even as far as fun friends-with-benefits sex. The second it starte getting into marriage, children, true love, I can't push my imagination to see how their dynamic would evolve. In the end I'm left feeling like they're evolving into really great friends who also have sex more than passionately romantic partners.

... Maybe that's exactly the kind of dynamic narusaku fans go for, actually. Not everyone likes "my heart aches for you, you give me butterflies so I can't even look at you without blushing" or "I love you, asshole, and that's why I'm punching you in the face." XD;;; But I can't tell if it comes across right, because it's not the kind of subtext I usually go for. I feel like I'm failing at writing them in love. Add that to the fact that Sasuke is the one they both have the strongest bonds with, and I have a bit of a hard time making Sakura actually look at Naruto when Sasuke is around.

Add that to the fact that right now they're all OMG CHUUNIN EXAM FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT and, hell, I just want to work on the relationship already. DX Why is it taking so looooong.

I've got an evil naruto-and-sakura centric scene planned in a couple of chapters, and I SERIOUSLY hope it will help, but as of right now, I'm bothered by my inability to work on her feelings so far. I'll just add it to list of issues to adress in the Suna sidefic and hope it helps... ~__~

Oh, about the Suna sidefic. Fuck you, Sasuke. Fuck you in the nose. TALK TO ME ALREADY. You were the one who wanted that goddamn scene in the first place. auuuugh.

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awww...o_o I know, it happens often to me. For some periods of time some pairings just don't work. Maybe you need to read a Good narusaku fic that will make you see this thing working between them. Problem is, not many fics out there are IC enough XD argh.

(As for me, reading your fics till now made me understand how Sakura can ADORE naruto^^ Dunnow why. The scene of 'desperate confession' after the seal on Sakura's belly was good too.)

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T___T yeah, and what's the worst is that my favorite character ever is Sasuke, and you don't get a lot of people being fair to him and properly acknowledging how powerful his bonds with Naruto and Sakura are in NaruSaku fics, even when they're well-written. ... unless they kill him off and then Naruto and Sakura bond over their angst, buuuuuut not ideal for me either. DX I don't know where to look.

Maybe I should just work on making them better partners/teammates/friends/buddies/confidantes, making it, like, tender intimacy, instead of trying to recreate a sasusaku kind of bond. It just doesn't work on them. That's something good the timeskip did for them, making them rely more on each other, that I think even Sasuke's return in canon wouldn't take away again. I srsly hope that scene I planned will work like that, but it might not be enough... >_>;;

i wish i had a more valuable suggestion other than to stick with what you just said right here:

'Maybe I should just work on making them better partners/teammates/friends/buddies/confidantes, making it, like, tender intimacy, instead of trying to recreate a sasusaku kind of bond.'

all relationships aren't lovey-dovey-googley like some of these romance fics/books/tv shows would like us to believe. i think you already have the right idea. :)

*squishpets* thanks hon. ^_^

Long-time lurker/Teamwork reader, first-time poster.
Canonically, I look to Naruto's homecoming after the timeskip for my Naru/Saku catalyst. When Sakura asks him if she "seems more womanly now", I read that as her asking two questions of him with her own subconscious asking what she really wants to know. 1. "Do you find me attractive as a female, not just someone you inexplicably crush on?" (i.e. Have I grown into a woman that men want?) 2. "Do you see me as I want you specifically to see me?" (i.e. Has my work in your absence paid off, not just in strength and ability, but also in what you think of as strength?)
I've always thought that quite a lot be gleaned from this question. And obviously the Naru=>Saku is put into sharper focus with his answer, "Nope, you haven't changed at all." I read that as, "I've never found you to not be beautiful or strong, even when you doubted it yourself," which is about my favorite part of his love for her.
I hope this helps, even just a little bit. If so, yep, I'm awesome. If not, well... there's always InoSaku.
-Tricyclipede

... XD;;; That's one way to see it. I didn't take it like that at all. *ponders*

... Hmm. Now you're pointing it out, I do think she wouldn't have asked that at all if, for a moment, she hadn't seen Naruto as a man. (of course two seconds later he went and made her see him as Baka Teammate once again, but.) Could build on that... >.>; 'course it was because she hadn't seen him for a while, so she was actually looking at him and not just going "blond mop, stupid grin, yep, that's Naruto". I should find a way to make her really notice him physically again. >.> *ponderponderponder*

... XD or there's inosaku.

If one needs to figure out how to get Sakura to see Naruto as a man more/again, I think the first thing to do is to figure out Sakura's definition of a man. Or rather, what makes a man a good man? I'm not sure I've seen her ever explain or ponder that in canon or a fic.
This gets me wondering, hypothetically of course, how her ideal man and ideal woman would get along. Hmmm... I may have just loosed a plot-bunny in my head.

... Wow. That's a really good question. @__@ I'll have to think on it long and hard as well.

I totally agree with you on what Naruto's response was. Except... more along the lines of "You're as beautiful as ever."
Man, I was so pissed when he didn't say that in the next dialogue.

Yeah, that IS why I like NaruSaku, heh. It's so... not romantic. Like it doesn't have that 'True Love deeply tragic desperate' feel, it's just sweet and still deep, and yet and yet... it's so.. happy. :D

Well, sorry I can't really help you with your writing troubles. Just so you know, I think you're doing great with characterization so far. :)

Speaking of NaruSaku fic that also include good Sasuke interaction... I know of two at least... one by Michiru's Mirror called "Finding Sakura" and another one which unfortunately was deleted, but the author may repost it sometime in the future. ^^ I could maybe give you the link then... if it ever happens. And if you wanted. ^^

... XD well then! ♥

I'll look up that fic, thanks ^^ As for the second one, well, if it's not even online... It's okay. XD;;;

Well, do all sides of the threesome have to have some intense romantic love involved? If Sasuke is the pivot of the relationship, then so what? When I think of NaruSaku interaction, I personally think of things like cuddles and gigglefits. :D Like you said, Naruto loves Sakura and Sakura is extremely protective of Naruto and cares about him a lot ~~and he's got a hot body~~, so maybe those two just have the lighthearted, joking-around relationship. They can save the heavy emotions for their relationships with Sasuke. :p I think the one thing I've noticed about your writing of Naruto and Sakura is that she never really notices a physical attraction to him. Not enough pheromones. I mean, come on: he's hot and he wants her and he's RIGHT THERE. Needs more blushing! I want to see Sakura slap Naruto's ass sometime, too, while I'm making a wishlist. XD

I am told by people with experience in these sort of things that long-term relationships like marriage typically see a fading of the passion and romance of teenagers and more of a super-close friendship/partnership developing. Love changes in both directions, after all.

But the point is that I don't want to write it as two twosomes that happen to overlap. So Sasuke can't be THAT much of a pivot. ;__;

... You're totally right about the physical attraction, though. Gotta fix that, but I never know when it's appropriate and when it's tacked on. Naruto doesn't act sexy often. I thik it's a case of she's so used to him she still sees him as the kid he was and her eyes kinda slide over him. ~__~; but yes, needs fixing ASAP.

... >_____> as for her slapping his ass, I SHALL TAKE IT IN CONSIDERATION. (it would kill me ded of lmao, so! there's a chance. XD)

Can I just butt in here and point out that I can deffinately see Naruto being shocked, but also very pleased that Sakura had the guts enough to smack his butt?

Might even get a sexy little moment out of the two of them from it.

But that could just be me.

I know what you mean, and if anyone *does* know of great Naru-Saku romantic/passion fics, I would love to see them...for inspiration and all....

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... you make perfect sense. Damn it. Yeah. That's such a stupid mindset too. T______T

I like the "through other eyes" idea, I'm going to poke my bunnies and see if a scene falls out. ^__^ As for her feelings, I'll try to sneak that in the next time it's her turn at POV. Thank you for the suggestions!

You must forgive my spelling. I#m on a german keyboard.... with strange buttons...

I think the thing I love most about your story is its about bonds that they are building. Without the time skip working the way it does in cannon, yes, it takes things out. You donät have Naru/saku developing the way thez do, but its not neccessarilz a bad thing. I have always seen this threesome that you write about them building with each other. The circumstances are not good. period. but they make choices and they are going to stick with it. It#s about finding what they are lacking in all three of them, which I think rounds them out better than if thez paired off (Sasu-Naru or Naru-saku or Saku-sasu). They manage to fill in the holes for all of them.

I think your right, Sasu may never be passionate about Sakura the way he is with Naru but there relationship hasn#t developed that way either. I think its going to places that are excellent. The quiet acceptance, the small signs off affection, the knowledge and understanding that he will accept what she gives him and protect it, (even if he never gives it back 100%) is really all Sakura needs from him. What Sasuke needs from her (from them both) is their unconditional acceptance. Kid is rather screwed up in the head.

Yes. Naruto and Sasuke need to bond more with conversation, but you#ve set the ground work for that in Teamwork 2 with the scrolls and the having to work to solve a problem. I think that they are going to operate best on that level until the relationship works out more. They solve problems to communicate and eventually that moves into more of a relationship.

I think Sakura needs to see Naruto as a man more. She does. BUt your have made a comment here or there and you are working things in between them. I think what needs to be done is that they understand the bonds between each other. Sakura is verz aware of the bonds between sasu and naru. She knows what thez have and that thez aren#t going to share that with her. I think the Sakura that she is developing into doesn#t want them to share, she wants her own.

.... wow I am rambling and its so late that I don#t know if any of it is coherant. Basically, I love that zou write them as a team. That's whats going to hold them over in the end. That's what#s forming the bonds between them. I shall try to be more coherant when I am not running around Germany...

Maybe you should try writing Sakura without Naruto? Nothing like not having the person there to make you realise why they're important. She could try not having her heart-mender around, the one person that she feels really safe with, I mean after a really hard day who's she going to turn to? Maybe if she loses a paitent on a mission and collapses in tears in Naruto's arms, because he understands and won't be thinking less of her for her weakness', because he understands what it is to want to save someone and fail. How can you not love someone who accepts all of you even the failures and ugly bits. And yes, ah hem hormones. Maybe Sasuke could have a talk to Naruto about Naruto holding in some of his impulses and letting Sakura make a few moves, after all it's hard to realise you want someone when you have the habit of them always jumping you first. and Naruto could be all 'buuut waaaaant to smex up Sakura', huhuu. I'm babbling again.
night.

Oh boy. The Naruto/Sakura aspect has always been difficult for me to spot in the canon as well-- Randi has a few good things she has to say about it, I'll see if I can get her to post a bit for you to see any of her opinions help out.

I think you've hit the nail on the head as to why the threesome seems pretty imbalanced in Teamwork. It's not really because Sakura is a weaker fighter than the two boys. It's because Teamwork Sasuke and Naruto share this incredibly passionate mutual bond, but the feelings aren't mutual in the NaruSaku and SasuSaku sides of the triangle. Sakura doesn't really see Naruto in a romantic light, and Sasuke can't feel passion towards Sakura. It makes Sakura seem sort of left-out.

I personally enjoy NaruSaku because they're honest with one another in a very uncomplicated way. Nobody plays any head-games in that relationship. Sakura doesn't censor herself around Naruto, and Naruto always accepts her for who she is. To me, that's actually pretty romantic.

Err on the Saku->Naru, I think that you might be over thinking the subject; which puts you in Sakura’s shoes already! That’s a good place to start.

Really for Sakura, she finds Naruto more reliable as the manga goes on and I have to say there are a few occasions where Sakura will give Naruto the appreciative eye. There's attraction, safety (not that that rates too highly with her), trust and very strong bonds there already; personally I think Sakura already has feelings for Naruto that goes beyond team/friendship. The thing with Sakura is she over thinks things, I totally get that poor Naruto is stuck mostly in the "friends" bracket inside her head; but I also think her feelings would develop without her realising it.

I keep seeing it as a sort of earth shaking revelation "I love Naruto?!" moment and Naruto’s "Duh!" response.

Needless to say Sakura often comes across as a confused character and I think she just needs to realise that Naruto and Sasuke are the opposites of the same thing in her life, and she shouldn't be surprised if her love for each of them feels different.

9.9 not too sure how clear I'm being?

So yeah, you’re doing a good job anyway. I pretty convinced! ( ^_’)b

*disappears back into the mist*

I don't have a real clear idea in my head and I'm not going to chase it because it's your story not mine, but you could try using team kunoichi to push Sakura into seeing Naruto as a man, not just as an idiot following boobs (or legs or a pretty boy-toy). Maybe Sasuke wouldn't doubt him because he *knows* what they've got, but Sakura being less certain could turn up the tension. I don't know, random thought.

uhg...I know it probably won't help much but I think you should watch shippuuden ....episode...I can't remember the number =) the scene where Naruto is four-tailed and Sakura is running...and then healing him.....hmm...

I think that Naruto is Sakura's touchstone. He shores her insecurities up and believes in her no matter what. I see him as becoming the one she goes to when she's feeling down and in need of a pick-me-up. He keeps her grounded. And I gotta agree with stripedpetunia--cuddles and gigglefits.

Which is funny, because for me I'm beginning to see Sakura falling for Naruto more clearly than her with Sasuke anymore (fanfictions have failed me! DX) ~ Sakura needs to reappear in the manga~

"discreet little signs of approval, all sneaky-like,"
Nice line-age there.

"OMG CHUUNIN EXAM FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT "
Tired Sakura equals less resistance~?
(ie- to herself, more than anything else.)

I follow you though, Sakura being a total cow recently. She's all like "emotions? please! Why would I show you those?"

(though now I think I should have added a little bit of Sasuke jealousy during the shower scene, it would have been easy for him to go "oh, you only want sex with me when Sakura is there" but that's an issue I think I could work on during the Suna fic so it's not too horrible.)
Question: Can't any of them ever have sex or romance with one another when it's just two of them without the third person getting jealous or having to join in? I mean, I know they're a threesome, but does it always have to be with the three of them? (Yes, I read Foxplay -- it was absolutely wonderful . . . but I wondered about Sakura's reaction at the end; was she jealous or just annoyed that it was done out in the open?)

Making them talk (not argue) and romance and quiet understanding moments. I should. Need. Yes.
Definitely. That would be nice. ♥

Sakura=>Naruto
I've seen some cases in stories where there would be a casual moment between the two, then it turns into just having fun (laughing at something or other) and just generally being totally open to each other, and they feel so good, that eventually one of them might just feel like, "I love this person." And they might or might not think, "Where did that come from?" or their smile might fade as they realize that they really do love that person.
Anyways, try writing them having a casual scene that turns out really happy and then "*gasp!* OMG, I love this man" or something like that.

Add that to the fact that right now they're all OMG CHUUNIN EXAM FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT and, hell, I just want to work on the relationship already. DX Why is it taking so looooong.
Go back to 2.5. Take a break from the progression of the whole series (currently the chuunin exam); scribble down quick notes of what you want to happen, save them for later, and then focus on trying different stuff with the relationships and see how it goes.
. . . Or meditate on the ideas or something.

I'll just add it to list of issues to adress in the Suna sidefic and hope it helps... ~__~
Mmm, okay (*dubious*), but I don't think that might be the best idea. Cuz if you don't get these issues straightened out, the whole story could just crash. Don't shove it all onto another project and go "Meh, I'll deal with it later," otherwise it'll pile up into a huge mess that you won't know what to do with AND the main story will start fading, since all the big issues are being thrown into something else. Not trying to scold or criticize, just help organize. (Of course I have no idea how you brainstorm your fics, so what the hell do I know? ^^;;;)

So . . . meditate on it, maybe? Work on 2.5? You said you were having issues with Teamwork 3 because of the relationships, so you started 2.5 to fix it. Maybe you should work on that a little more to stabilize the path you want to take.

That's my advice. Hope it was helpful and not annoying. ^_^;;;;;;

(See Subject header as I ponderponderponder)
I think everybody here has made insightful comments out the wazoo. One thought: If you feel that Sakura is a little too stuck in "yeah-that's-just-my-sweet-baka-teammate" mode about Naruto... What if SASUKE decided to challenge her view of the Blond One?
I could see him doing that, actually, partly because he knows he can't give her the passion she's always wanted from him (although Sasuke may hold her near his center far more than anyone is aware of; he's the poster child for introversion), and partly because, well, he loves Naruto and it hurts to see the baka never quite getting what he wants.
Sasuke knows that both Naru and Sakura enjoy passion more than he does (which isn't to say he isn't passionate too; just lousy at admitting it). I can see him thinking it over, wrestling with the fear that if Naruto and Sakura become more wrapped up with each other they'll gradually slip away from him, and setting that aside while deciding that what they both need is some Uchiha-brand brutally honest observations.
It's easy to forget that Sasuke can be at least as generous and self-sacrificing as he can be cold and ruthless.
Notice that 1) this discussion of Naruto and Sakura has ended up being all about prettyboy instead (I'm not obsessed, neeeeeu), and 2) I can write a truly bitchin' run-on sentence.
Also, pat yourself on the back, baby. If your fics weren't so brilliant, you wouldn't inspire so many enthusiastic and well-thought-out posts from your many otakus!

I think that SakuxNaru is obviously there in the manga now BUT maybe you just need to re=read some of the first time skip chapters to see that Sakura and Naruto got very close to each other while Sasuke was gone. It does not have to be on-screen all the time for it to be there. They are close because with Sasuke gone, Sakura was able to see Naruto for who he is. Yes its true that they bonded over their feelings for Sasuke and Naruto's seems to be a lot more intense than what Sakura feels for Sasuke.

If anything I am thinking that Sakura canon is the one who really no longer has that close attachment for Sasuke...she has matured and realised that her infatuatin for Sasuke was not love...she has realised that she cares a lot for Naruto (it even comes out in the anime when he went all kyuubi all over everyone). I think that SakuraxNaruto IS the canon couple for Shippuden LOL step back and look and you will see it.

(if not then get people to rec you some really good NaruxSaku fics that actually work and that might help some)

Sakura has matured and she can realistically see that Naruto is the kind of person she can fall in love with.

Now looking at Teamwork 2 I remember you did a really lovely scene with Naruto and Sakura outside her house. Just a few more moments like that... and also Sakura needs to come to grips with Naruto and Kyuubi being one being (I think maybe your Sakura does not trust Naruto deep down -she is a bit afraid of Kyuubi- and something needs to happen to change this and then she will be able to feel her connection to him and they can have the mushy love you want them to ^^)

Well I hope you can make sense of my rambling! T_______________T

Alas. XD I've read and re-read the manga, had "shipping" scenes pointed out to me as narusaku by fans, read long-ass posts as to why people believed Sakura and Naruto were going to be canon... and I still can't see it. To me, it still reads SasuSaku and NaruHina. The immense majority of narusaku scenes came off as either jokes that didn't progress their relationship any, as platonic/friendship oriented, or in the majority of cases, as Sasuke-centric or Sasuke-based.

(for example, the feeding scene? because Sakura was reassured that 1) she wasn't useless, which is one of her big personal fears and 2) they WOULD find Sasuke. Then in the end she didn't even look angry to be interrupted, Sai called it "a friend thing", and Kakashi sealed it by ending up being the one who fed him. To me it's cute, but it's still not a hint. She wasn't flustered at all when they got interrupted, just ruefully amused and sort of protective/grateful. If she had done it out of romantic intent, she would have been a little nervous or embarrassed at the very least. She didn't act as if she'd done anything not perfectly platonic and ordinary. I joked about her bedroom eyes, but if they WERE actually bedroom eyes, whoa out-of-nowhere shamelessly dominatrix!sakura. I could see her like that at 20, but not at the moment. XDD)

Also I still can't see where Sakura's feelings for Sasuke are fading. After such an impassionated pledge of love, I'm giving the girl some more credit. Post-timeskip, she got very intense and focused when Sasuke was mentioned by enemies, cried over the team picture in the dark (if she didn't care as much about him, hey, Naruto's right here, why would she cry), punched Sai and made evil eyes when he badmouthed him... Especially since Sasuke (and Kishi) had the perfect occasion to put an end to SasuSaku with the goodbye scene -- Sasuke would have just had to say "no, I'm not interested." Instead he said he was grateful. It's not a "I'm not interested and never will be." It's a "I'm glad you feel this way." Which means his side of things is still open.

As long as Sakura hasn't said "my sentiments for Sasuke are gone," then I'm not gonna see it. Just because Kishi doesn't bring it up blatantly all the time doesn't mean it was never true. Kishi himself said her declaration was genuine back then, so, you know, word of God and all that. XD It doesn't mean it can't change or hasn't changed since, but I still don't like it much when people just wave it off à la "oh, it was just never true." But to me, she's still waiting. It wouldn't be a very admirable love if she just switched targets because he'd gone. ;p

Seriously, Naruto and Sakura have a lot of screentime, but to me it reads as "yeah, well, we're on the same team, what did you expect." Sure they've grown closer, but none of it is marked by the same physical closeness between Sakura and Sasuke, and to top it off they don't even notice most of the times the other one is lying to them.

Also, the Kyuubi scene, I can see how you would interpret it as powerful and potentially romantic, but to me? I saw guilt and worry, yes, but what I also saw was 1) bringing up their common desire to get Sasuke back (I don't recall Naruto being brought up in SasuSaku moments.) and 2) an exact parallel of that curse seal scene. Except with the curse seal she succeeded. Granted Sasuke wasn't as far gone, but the parallel is still obvious. It would have been a perfect way to show NaruSaku if even despite being a four tails Naruto even hesitated a second, but it was like swatting a fly on his side of things. Then when she heals him, she worries about being useless, and then she's deliriously happy when he wakes up! and, Naruto totally breaks the mood. They do that all the time. I can't take that moment all that seriously if even the manga doesn't. ;__;

Anyway. I might be totally wrong, it's hard to judge. But seeing as I firmly believe Sasuke will be brought back and the team Seven bonds will be repaired, I can't imagine a canon scenario where they welcome him back and then promptly go and have sex with each other. The NaruSasu bond is already super-powerful rivalship, and the narusaku bond is building up a great friendship, but the sasusaku bond was always tinged with romance. Kishi would have to devote as many chapters on building the sasuke/sakura friendship as he spent on naru/saku -- maybe more, because it started as something so different. Seeing as his return will probably happen toward the end of the manga, where would he find that time?

Naruto and Sakura already have a tight bond as it is, which balances out the team Seven relationships equally. They don't NEED to be lovers to be close to each other and stabilize the team. I like them together in fic well enough, because they've got such cute/enthusiastic/lovely interaction, and their friendship is a good basis on which someone could build more. But if they get together in the manga, then what about Sasuke? He'll still have his friendship with Naruto, but it won't rebuild team Seven.

So, its future canon-ness might be obvious to you, but to me it's the farthest thing from it. Sorry. ^^;;;

I can't believe I exceeded comment length. DX

Oh I was wondering why you made two posts LOL

Well, I could probably see your point about NaruxSaku being friends (probablly^^)

But looking at that 'reunion' scene for Team 7 the only passionate members were Sasuke and Naruto./ I guess Sakura could have been in shock, whatever, but I will still stick to the idea that her maturity has made her infatuation with Sasuke wane.

I guess I am making this even more difficult now, eh?

I think maybe because it is almost SakuSasu and NaruSasu? As in, Sasuke is not only the focus, he's also the receiver in both cases. I don't mean sexually, at least not with Sakura, but emotionally. They love him, and sort of push their love onto him in their own ways whereas he mostly just acknowledges it. It creates intensity but it makes Naruto and Sakura lack the dynamics of desire for each other.

It's like Naruto wants to own Sasuke, Sakura wants to own Sasuke, even Kyubi wants to own Sasuke XD, but no one really wants to own Sakura (because Naruto's love for her is passive, gentle) and Naruto either (because Sasuke displays it too subtly and Sakura simply never does). It's not like the narusaku bond is less deep, but it sort of lacks the gonna-have-you-no-matter-what factor, the agressiveness of raw passion.

In the manga, too - it's like Sakura likes Naruto and cares for him, but it's okay if he's somewhere else, with someone else. It's enough for her to know he's doing well. Though I recently get the same vibe from her concerning Sasuke - she wants him back and happy, yes, but she doesn't want him for herself anymore.

Though I think in this case it's all up to Sakura. :) Naruto sometimes seems to be the most straightforward lover, but he won't push her, out of all the characters in canon she's the only one he has never been able (or wanting) to dominate in any way. Just like in the manga Sakura herself cannot and wouldn't push Sasuke, so he doesn't notice her, even though he cares deep inside.

And I noticed Sakura's physical attraction to Naruto actually. :)

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