random antipairing ficlet

[askerian]

So I still owe four ficlets. I started on two of them. then erased it. then started again. I have the ideas, I just don't know how to get them out. ;_;

So instead, because I am a feedback whore and my inbox is empty today, I decided to rant about something that annoys me.

And instead of a rant, I got a ficlet. Go figure.

Personally I don't think SasuHina would work without making at least one of them VERY ooc, but with a good plot and good writing, I can believe anything. There is one plot, though, that always gets on my nerves,not only because almost EVERY SasuHina fic uses it, but also because it Makes No Fucking Sense.

Yay for stabbing stupid cliches through the eye.



"I'm afraid I must decline," Sasuke responds finally, voice dripping ice crystals.

The Hyuuga elder frowns at the kneeling young man in front of him, clad in a formal white and blue kimono. The old man doesn't like how openly he meets their eyes, how proudly he lifts his chin. The Uchiha is all but a powerless clan now, but Sasuke doesn't seem to realize it. "The contract was legal, signed by your clan head and three elders. All formalities are out of the way."

"As my own clan head, I must nullify this contract."

One of the other elders at his side draws back in offense. "You would insult us so?"

"You insult me by insisting that this sham be pushed through."

There is a collective hiss as the Hyuuga elders draw a shocked breath. "How dare you -- Hinata-sama is the very own daughter of our clan head--"

"Let's be frank. I don't know what my father was smoking when he accepted that contract. Maybe he thought sullying the purity of our line didn't matter since I wasn't about to inherit anything. In any case, I am not about to test what sort of probably useless mutation a mix of sharingan and byakugan will create."

He gets on his feet, bows perfunctorily, and turns away to leave, pausing with his hand on the sliding door.

"Besides, when this was supposedly signed, she was still the heir. You wouldn't have married her into another clan. If you want to get rid of your failure so badly, find another sucker."

Comments

[mikkeneko.livejournal.com]

*snort*

Arranged marriages are supposed to be romantic in what way?

[askerian]

well, the problem with that pairing isn't really the arranged marriage thing -- because i like it with nejihina it forces two people who usually wouldn't give each other the time of the day to deal with each other, to learn about each other and ultimately fall in love with the real person that they would otherwise have never bothered to know.

But what throws me with that bunny is people actually thinking that mixing up two families with eye techniques is a good idea. As an experiment when the two clans were numbered in the hundreds, why not -- they might actually get a super neat mix as a result -- but sasuke needs to preserve and transmit the sharingan, not see how much of his kids are born blind or seeing in everything but the normal spectrum.

[windshades.livejournal.com]

/Let's be frank. I don't know what my father was smoking when he accepted that contract./
That sums it up quite nicely. Arranged marriages...ugh.

[askerian]

XD *points at previous reply*

... well. I'd like to amend my point. arranged marriages can lead to love, if they don't lead to lifelong resentment first. XD

[aconite.livejournal.com]

*loves you*

That was just *wipes tear* beautiful.

I'm sure there is a way to make SasuHina work but I just don't see it. :| Sasuke would be all "Damnit! Grow a spine" and Hinata would never love Sasuke, she'd want to fix him as if he were something broken. I think they could be friends but only through the people they loved (i.e. Naruto). And HI I'm rambling now.

[askerian]

*loves you back*

I've seen one that worked, and ironically it was with that bunny. But it was a very short fic, and it worked more for the way the words flowed together than for the characterization and logic. Unless i'm wrong it was by sunfreak, who writes fics as if they were poetry. i love her style, but it doesn't convince me of the merits of the pairing and bunny itself. XD

[kiyakotari.livejournal.com]

**claps** Very good. I love this - "Sasuke Says No!"

... **thwacks my face** That sounds like a campaign slogan. I think I need sleep.

[askerian]

XD haha, you're so cute. *tacklemolests*

i should be sleeping too. we could do that together *leers*

... okay, that was one of the worst pick-up lines EVAR. XD

[sarolynne.livejournal.com]

You ought to know I love the idea. SasuHina makes so little sense to me, it's astounding. And people who think they'd find some romance in an arranged marriage are delusional.

They are also a bit odd for thinking that either family would go for that. They're both rather protective of their bloodlimits.

[askerian]

X333333333333333333 *loves on you and your icon*

[rainbowlasers.livejournal.com]

SasuHina is one of my biggest pet peeves. (Because, seriously, swirling blank/red eyes without pupils and veins?! O_o) But there's been a new thread to the fandom: Itachi/Hinata.

... I'm seriously ashamed to say most people of the fandom who are crazy are my age. Like... WHAT?!

Just pairing Itachi seriously with anyone and the other one being consentant is 'wtf' to me. o__o But- HINATA. That's... worse.

Gnuh. Loved your mock-bunny anyhow. Sasuke would SO say no and 'screw politics!' in a cold polite way. Muah.

[askerian]

i'm planning a itahina antibunny. i'd write itasaku too, but it's been done, and beautifully so *snickers* i need to find the link and pimp like crazy. it was magnificent. XDDDD

well, i can see itakisa... but it's not pretty so no one likes it. ;_; IT MAKES SENSE DAMN YOU!! *shakes fist*

[rayemars.livejournal.com]

Eheh. *scratches the back of her head* I'm actually oddly fond of SasuHina, but I admit that the problem of crossing the different eye strains is probably the biggest brick wall to the whole thing.

I would comment on the arrainged marriage cliché, but I've written it too, so I don't think I'm allowed. *grin*

[askerian]

ahh, but all plots are cliches in some way. the originality lays in the angle at which you attack it and the way you develop things. I forgive you. XDDDDDDDDDDD

icon love. *dhed of lmao*

[suzukiblu.livejournal.com]

Ohhhh I love you. <3333 Lovelovelove for bitch!Sasuke and alllll the happy things therein implied. Although personally I like SasuHina. Because I'm far too fond of impossible pairings, since they're so DAMN fun to write, even when they end up failing miserably. *cackles quietly*

Plus, the drooling fangirl in me is a WHORE for their pretty.

. . . it does amuse me that my stuff came up in regards to this pairing, though. >>

[askerian]

*is loved* eeee! :3 I can see the appeal of sasuhina (which is much the same as nejihina, they're pretty and it would be SO fucked up) but i really hate it when people use that plot and it's instant sasuke: *drip drip* "aww, i'm sorry i misjudged you, hinata-chan. YAY TWU WUV". so long as there's angst and not-working-ness, at least at first (and in the middle, and almost all the way to the end), i'm happy to leave it alone XD

shush. i'll fangirl you if i want to. XP

[cerusee.livejournal.com]

Hmm, I just read a SasuHina fic recced by who_shot_kr, but it was all about how wrong they were were for each other (or how right, if all you want is to indulge your dysfunction), and how they were going to be very unhappy together.

I would think Hinata needs someone...kinder. Like Naruto or Kiba.

[cerusee.livejournal.com]

And I liked the ficlit. Sasuke is so rude. X3

[malika.livejournal.com]

::coughs:: my parents had an arranged marriage and they are doing better than 75% of my friends' parents, but that's not what this comment is about D:

eheh, you bring about a good point about the mixing eye techniques. I've always thought that if they were gonna arrange a marriage with Sasuke & Hinata, it would be to get rid of poor Hinata x) she is now free to be incestuous with Neji muahah.

maybe sasuke and hanabi. *COUGH*

[rainbowlasers.livejournal.com]

maybe sasuke and hanabi. *COUGH*

You know what's worse? o_o ... That could work. Sasuke would have been four when Hanabi was born, so politically wise, it would be okay for an arranged marriage.

Because they wouldn't do with the heir before they knew she was weak X3

Arrrgh **kills self** I'm going to think about it all night now.

[bobangk.livejournal.com]

That indeed was very Sasuke, from what I have watched/read(which's not much at all.-_-;a)
*nodnod* Proud, to the very core.
I like both SasuHina or NejiHina.>XD

Hn, if not an arranged marrige, how about a special mission?

[bobangk.livejournal.com]

btw, if I want to submit a fanart where to? O.o
If you use MSN I could send it to you on MSN.>XD

[nacchi-camui.livejournal.com]

C'est une idée ça, une anti-fic... C'est clair que dans un marriage SasuHina j'aurais peur pour les gosses, les pauvres o_o Et pis c'est pas possible, puisque Sasuke aime Naruto *drapeau NaruSasu OTP* >___>

"I don't know what my father was smoking "
XD

[askerian]

ouéééé narusasuuuuuuu!! <3<3<3<3

[sailor-comet.livejournal.com]

::snicker, snicker::
Well, I've read a couple good fics with this premise--but that'd be because I won't touch the pairing unless it's handled by a writer I already know is good. Still, I especially love the bit where Sasuke says that as his own clan head he has to decline. XD It's beautiful.

~Sam

[askerian]

XD i don't know how many times writers i love have made me read some of my pet peeves and LIKE IT. This is why i try not to generalize entirely, because i know someone out here is proving me wrong. :p

sasuke as clan head is so deliciously cocky. :33333 (ah, gonna be so fun to write him getting used to his duties in teamwork. i should start thinking about what they entail more... and if you have scene ideas about that, tell!!tell!! X3333)

[miko-no-da.livejournal.com]

*snickers madly* I've been twitching over that plotline too... Given that Uchiha were originally a branch of the Hyuuga, I doubt EITHER clan would want anything to do with a remix of the lines!

Though a combination Byakugan and Sharingan, if both actually retained their full power, would be kinda scary... o.O

[askerian]

uh. unless the kid's got one eye each, i don't see how either would work. XD hyuugas have no pupils and uchihas have FOUR, if you count the little swirly tadpole things. uchihas have black eyes, hyuugas white ones -- besides there's the nerves/veins/things around hyuugas eyes that sharingan doesn't need, which may mess up the flow of chakra in the sharingan while trying to increase the bykugan. it's like a mac and a PC. XD

Well hmm.

[(Anonymous)]

I apolise before hand for my very bad spelling skills.


I think someone metion this idea.

If both Uchica and Hyuuga had hundreds of members they might what to see what would happen if their blood lines cameback together.

When the marriage agreement happened wasn't there hundreds of Uchicas? But then Itsame killed everyone. But then again Hinata WAS the heir. So eh, I'm just babbling.

Re: Well hmm.

[askerian]

I was the one who mentioned that idea.

Actually, no, they weren't -- because just as i said in the fic, when the uchiha was still there and whole, hinata was still the heir, and they would NEVER have risked the children of the heir (who would have been heirs themselves) to be anything but pure-blooded hyuugas. so they were lying, and hoping sasuke wouldn't know that the contract was a false.

i don't know if another girl had been promised to sasuke at first, or even if there had been a contract at all, but the sasuhina one? a false. Heirs do NOT get married together when they both have to continue a pure line. i'm sorry, i thought it was clear enough that i didn't need to spell it out.

Also, sasuke's brother is itachi, kisame is his partner and has nothing to do with the killing seeing as they didn't even know each other back then. =_=

[rianax.livejournal.com]

I actually enjoy the arranged marriage aspect for SasuHina because it is not romantic, fluffy, and is drenched in politics and power plays.

It is less about love than building a life out of the wreck of their inheiritance, maybe finding a measure of peace and acceptance in their lives together, not some all consuming passion.

Why spoil the fucked upness with candy cane romance?

Politically, SasuHina makes a great deal of sense for the Hyuuga, get Hinata legitimately out of the line of succession, bring the Uchiha to heel, and come up smelling like roses.

For Sasuke, the deal is not so hot unless the political ties to the Hyuuga are a mutual benefit.

I have always wondered how old the Hyuuga and Uchiha clans are and how distintly they were separated. The Uchiha clan obviously had the more dominant trait if the Hyuuga clan could neither control it or breed it out of the bloodlines. If the separation of the families only happen a century or two ago than it makes more sense for the match to be made-- strengthening the blood by going back to the orginal foundation line.

If there has been a great and permant separation between the clans with no genetic crossing between them for a while, crossing the lines could be diseasterous.

[askerian]

I agree about the attraction of the arranged marriage thing -- yay angst factor, yay political advantage for the Hyuuga. heck, they will be happy to wreck the sharingan once and for all, too.

Sasuke would have to be stupid to accept, though, because 1) it would make his clan indebted forever and he doesn't need them THAT bad (he has to concentrate on rebuilding his clan first, not on jockeying for a power he couldn't hold on his own), and 2) hello mutations.

Maybe the sharingan gene is dominant. Maybe the lines just separated because the first sharingan users just couldn't accept being told they weren't allowed to marry for fear of tainting the great hyuuga clan, and decided to make their own.

In both cases, he just can't take the risk.

It wouldn't strengthen the blood so much as reinforce the byakugan gene -- and even if the sharingan gene is dominant, sasuke's children will not be marrying uchihas; they'll probably be marrying either other hyuugas (yay for the hyuuga making sure the sharingan is bred out of existance in a few generations) or random, non-eye-technique-users shinobi -- in which case the byakugan (or a watered down version of it at least) might appear instead of the sharingan. Yay recessive genes. (the Hyuuga would SO push to have the byakugan children belong to their clan instead of sasuke's, meaning he couldn't even lay claim to his own grandkids. And they'd get to live as bastards of the hyuuga branch family instead of Uchiha heirs)

Sasuke is alone. He HAS to make sure nothing but the sharingan can get passed down -- and a potentially weaker sharingan, due to only one parent being a uchiha, is always preferable to a byakugan, or worse yet another, potentially useless, potentially debilitating mutation. He can always have his great-grandkids marry each other to strengthen the sharingan later, even at the risk of some inbreeding. His parents were probably related anyway, so it's not so weird to him.

Marrying Hinata might be a great political gesture, (and ohhh the yummy angst from such a fic, if written well) but in his place i'd make sure all his kids come from concubines.