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-The more I think about it, the more I want to do a "quote me a scenebit and i'll tell you what Karkat was saying/thinking" thing with the ask box over on tumblr. It could be hilarious, heartbreaking, or more likely both.
Alas what it would also be is potentially v. spoilerific. I tend to want to answer ALL THE QUESTIONS, especially since background or worldbuilding questions often help me refine my own mental images of those things even as I explain them to other people. End result is that I often end up hinting way too much about what happens next. Hrrm. *ponders* Maybe I should wait a bit. idk. Or maybe I should only answer the ones where what Karkat says is a long list of impressive swear words. That could also work. It wouldn't be informative but it would probably be funny.
-I have been asked what BT would be like if Karkat was the one who had taken John captive.
The answers are not pleasant.
That fic would be quite darker than BT is. Especially considering what Karkat expects to happen to him, it’s easy to extrapolate what could happen to John, up in a troll ship with no escape.
Either John is tortured for the fun of it and then culled summarily because they already have all the humans they need for study… woo torture porn...
Or he’s made a slave and/or a toy and abused as such (possibly "only" a couple of times if he proves to be a valuable worker and not a very fun fuck.) There might also be some Karkat forced to rape him because 1) if he doesn’t, others will, and they’ll be more violent/torture-happy about it, 2) if he doesn’t prove he’s a troll and absolutely not squeamish, all that jeering over how his blood is the same color as that inferior disgusting alien haha how disgusting might degenerate into a feeding frenzy considering how delicate his place is in the Fleet, 3) making John his own means as long as he holds onto enough grit and street cred he can spend some on protecting him from the rest of them.
But first he has to prove he’s not taking *urgh* pity on the wretched thing.
Which means okay yay they get to bond over how much neither of them wanted this to happen (which uh, “we’ll pin you down and force you” is pretty clearly rape but “have sex with me/this other person/this broomstick over there or else we’ll maim/kill this other person!” counts as rape in my book, too, only I don’t think Karkat would be willing/able to recognize that) and the one person who gets what you’re going through is also the one who was right here for the worst of it and kind of made it happen (even if they had to and you intellectually get that, (and how much of that do you get without a common language? okay no karkat would totally cry a bit at some point and that’s fairly clear XD) it’s still their face you remember), and how for a mutant and an alien this place is unsafe and nerve-wracking and the wrong move could have them go from normal day to seriously hurt in about ten minutes and there is no visible way out. Great. :/
I haven’t gotten much farther yet into planning and am not sure I want to (note, either way I am not writing this, but planning new fics is kind of like breathing to me, maybe only a tenth of them ever make it to the writing stage XD), but it would involve massive fallout from trauma and stuff, and a lot of claustrophobic feels.
On the upside, there would be Tavros and Nepeta.
Alas what it would also be is potentially v. spoilerific. I tend to want to answer ALL THE QUESTIONS, especially since background or worldbuilding questions often help me refine my own mental images of those things even as I explain them to other people. End result is that I often end up hinting way too much about what happens next. Hrrm. *ponders* Maybe I should wait a bit. idk. Or maybe I should only answer the ones where what Karkat says is a long list of impressive swear words. That could also work. It wouldn't be informative but it would probably be funny.
-I have been asked what BT would be like if Karkat was the one who had taken John captive.
The answers are not pleasant.
That fic would be quite darker than BT is. Especially considering what Karkat expects to happen to him, it’s easy to extrapolate what could happen to John, up in a troll ship with no escape.
Either John is tortured for the fun of it and then culled summarily because they already have all the humans they need for study… woo torture porn...
Or he’s made a slave and/or a toy and abused as such (possibly "only" a couple of times if he proves to be a valuable worker and not a very fun fuck.) There might also be some Karkat forced to rape him because 1) if he doesn’t, others will, and they’ll be more violent/torture-happy about it, 2) if he doesn’t prove he’s a troll and absolutely not squeamish, all that jeering over how his blood is the same color as that inferior disgusting alien haha how disgusting might degenerate into a feeding frenzy considering how delicate his place is in the Fleet, 3) making John his own means as long as he holds onto enough grit and street cred he can spend some on protecting him from the rest of them.
But first he has to prove he’s not taking *urgh* pity on the wretched thing.
Which means okay yay they get to bond over how much neither of them wanted this to happen (which uh, “we’ll pin you down and force you” is pretty clearly rape but “have sex with me/this other person/this broomstick over there or else we’ll maim/kill this other person!” counts as rape in my book, too, only I don’t think Karkat would be willing/able to recognize that) and the one person who gets what you’re going through is also the one who was right here for the worst of it and kind of made it happen (even if they had to and you intellectually get that, (and how much of that do you get without a common language? okay no karkat would totally cry a bit at some point and that’s fairly clear XD) it’s still their face you remember), and how for a mutant and an alien this place is unsafe and nerve-wracking and the wrong move could have them go from normal day to seriously hurt in about ten minutes and there is no visible way out. Great. :/
I haven’t gotten much farther yet into planning and am not sure I want to (note, either way I am not writing this, but planning new fics is kind of like breathing to me, maybe only a tenth of them ever make it to the writing stage XD), but it would involve massive fallout from trauma and stuff, and a lot of claustrophobic feels.
On the upside, there would be Tavros and Nepeta.
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2. Soooooo. Karkitty's thoughts in bath plz? :D
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2. I said i was thinking about doing it, not that i was doing it!!! XD
(totally "OHGOD WHYDANGLYUNSHEATHED ORGYTIEMS??? DX" XD)
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-07 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)I'm so curious about Karkat's thoughts troughout this, but then again... During the bedroom scene, I'd kind of assumed he'd realized there would be no rape, and was now worrying about forced pale sleeping-next-to-eachother action. And then you jossed that last chapter in the most fridge horror-y way possible. And the shower scene? Was actually pretty damn sure Karkat was feeling relatively safe by then. How wrong can one reader get? I am John. He is me.
So yeah, Karkat's the best character ever and your version of him breaks my heart so bad, it's scary and addictive all at once <3
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Well! *Before* the bedroom scene he'd really started to believe there would be no rape, since John was acting so ridiculously pale, and yeah, he was very "uh okay how do i tell the alien i have someone already without him throwing me back to the meditortioners." (then he sees the bed and he's like "welp i was wrong after all oh fuck.") The day after during the mind meld chat he was once again 70% sure it was pale (no ogling in the shower? bashful john re: exposed groin bits? huh), he just wanted to make REALLY SURE the sex platform thing had been a misunderstanding. XD (also he was still pissed off about spending the night terrified. XD goddamn it john.)
And you were right about the shower scene! he was kind of nervous when they started roughhousing and he didn't like having no escape route but he's used to kismeses being a lot more violent than that and there was almost no collateral damage (even their ashen relationships are disgustingly pale! D:) Dirk mostly said "scared" to get it through John's head he had to pay more attention. sneaky Dirk. >.>
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The alternative word would be very, very bad. And that is really all there is to say.
I need to comment on the rest of the chapters, but I keep forgetting how I planned to introduce the concept of Egbert's Home For Wayward Trolls, which is pretty much the only happy ending for Earth I can see. John and Kar have a huge fight and John rescues Sollux as a "So THERE!" to him, which freaks Kar out because NOBODY expected John to do anything remotely like that. (John winds up grounded for LIFE. Or until they need another pilot again.)
Toss in Gamzee, maybe mix in some Fef/Ari-saving-damsel-Sollux-oh-wait-he's-better-off-here to get more poeple down on the planet, and the whole thing just degenerates into a troll revolution when the twelve get "recued" or try to rescue their troll buddies, and wind up teamed up with the eight. Just so the planet doesn't get annihilated a century down the line. >.>
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ahaha your plot. d'awwws. XD i'm glad it's not like mine, but d'aw anyway.
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...okay, you caught me, I really just want more romance novel plots from Karkat's POV. The four-guys-sharing-sex-platform-room could qualify as a harem scene.
I like happy endings, and I tend to go straightforward routes. Like them using Sollux as a carrot to get Karkat to help them with plans. And it's actually beneficial to them if they can get to hm, becaus without him the ship is dead in the water.
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The fort's main thought was "IS HE BUILDING ME AN ALIEN PILE AW HELL."
The four-guys-sharing-sex-platform-room could qualify as a harem scene.
if he wasn't involved, yeah, but add an alien captive and instead it becomes "potential gangbang" which is a bit scarier. :/
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But wasn't it obvious that the sex platform room had been there for a while and the four guys normally shared it? Or was he thinking this was the room that John and the other male pilots had specifically for them to use their captives/slaves in?
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Ahem, happy thoughts now!
Karkat's reaction...uh...
What was going though Karkat's mind when he called John's name after getting his horns molested for the first time?
(Or just his reaction to getting his horns molested. I'm cool with that too.)
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They're not extra-sensitive to the touch, it doesn't feel especially good; they're sensory organs, so it's a bit like getting your eyes covered by someone's hands. Kinda stressful if you don't trust them.
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*hiccuping up a storm, ouch.*
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(Anonymous) 2012-05-11 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)no subject
Later he berated himself quite a bit for siding with John so instinctively. I mean, okay good, yes, the guy apparently has your best interests at heart, but your reaction to it could have been a little more deliberate/logical/calculated!
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If you wrote this, it would definitely have to a bad end verse, because that coming out as a happy ending would be near impossible. ):
As far as wanting to work out questions without spoilers, you could take questions from the reviewer population and then discuss/answer them with someone you bounce ideas off of. That way only one person is subject to spoilers and you can answer freely. Just an idea. Whatever works for you, honestly. But yeah, you ever want to break your readers hearts, write the story outlined above. ;_;