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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2011-09-02 12:58 am

GW fandom whining XD;

... hnnnrgh! *kicks fic*

"would you like a dystopian futuristic AU with shiny social order shenanigans? oh, and it's Heero/Duo. :D "
"Yay! I sure would!"
"It's well written too!"
"AWESOME!"
"also relena is, while in a position of major power and responsibility, a brainless twit and totally obsessed with her nonexistent love story with heero yuy."
"........................... =_= sorry, tonight i've got to wash my hair."


It makes no sense that a teenage girl would be so awesome at the political game that she's elected to major offices... and then perpetually get lost in daydreams of a guy she can't tell doesn't give a shit about her, to the point where she (as is the fandom rule) becomes a selfish monster of moronism and jealousy when that's suddenly threatened because omg some slut is trying to seduce her Heero.

I can see how to some people Total Pacifism would be seen as naive. But if she was elected then it proves most people WANT to dream with her, and that she has a good solid non-dreamy plan to get them there! They wouldn't follow her on her giggly say-so. Only someone with high ideals yet also a high sense of realism could ever make it work.


JoIsBishMyoga: No no, wait, it totally makes sense... if there's a regent controlling her!
Askerian: nrgh.
JoIsBishMyoga: /teasing
JoIsBishMyoga: maybe the stress split her personality, so she has "competent" and "kindergarten teenager"
Askerian: pff.

shewhoflies: *petpetsoothe*
shewhoflies: ...wanna "fix" it?
Askerian: meh. =__= i was mostly happy cause i didn't have to plot it out myself
shewhoflies: nnngh. you've gone and made me curious now.
Askerian: s'compicated. the setup looked shiny. genetic evolutions and gene purists plotting discreet massacres and mutations and government telling you who you can have children with so the kids turn out without defects
shewhoflies: ohhh *__*
Askerian: it's sorta the same themes i was playing with with my fic newtype but way more hardcore
Askerian: and then bam surprise twit relena, who seems to be a HUGE part of the scenario
Askerian: if the scenario rests on relena being that naive obsessed delusional moron then it's not one i want to read.
Askerian: even though duo was on the other side from heero and it looked like they'd be enemies for a while! T__T
Askerian: I HAS A SAD.


... But then suddenly omg omg fiiiiiii Newtype was talking to me again!! and a ton of plotting happened. I HAS A HAPPY. :D I mean, by now maybe five people still care about that fic at all, but I'm one of them, and I say WHEE.

[identity profile] mika-kun.livejournal.com 2011-09-02 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Eh... Itachi may not have done what he did because he was a sociopath, but still I don't believe for a second that Sasuke was the only kid in the Uchihas. Also, I will never understand why he tormented Sasuke like that as Itachi's plan makes no sense to me whatsoever.

Sorry for budding in, but I've been thinking about that for the last few days and it had to get out.

[identity profile] mika-kun.livejournal.com 2011-09-02 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, everybody's got a different feel for it, right? That's what makes fandom fun and all that.

Personally, the whole Itachi is good thing bugs me because emotionally everything in me went "Wait, what? No. That explains that Itachi thought he was doing the right thing, but that doesn't make it objectively even close to okay to kill a bunch of small children (not to mention the adults who were not involved)!"

[identity profile] q99.livejournal.com 2011-09-02 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well, Madara was involved too, and him killing kids I can totally buy. When it's a clan, I doubt there were totally uninvolved adults, everyone should at least have knowledge of it.

It's still pretty darn evil of him even with that, though.

[identity profile] mika-kun.livejournal.com 2011-09-02 09:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends how big the clan is. If it's big enough then there can be a lot more internal conflict which might make people more likely to not automatically side with the clan leaders. Also, telling noncombatants who are unlikely to stumble across the information (aka: the very old couple at the end of the street who don't have any living children to participate) is not a good idea. The more people know a secrete the less secure it is. Ninjas should understand operational security which would limit the number of people aware of what's going on.

[identity profile] q99.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
From what we've seen, old ninja usually stay quite involved/informed as advisors (it takes a big badass to live to old age as a ninja, after all). If anything I'd expect the old couples' to be more heavily involved.

The ninja know operational security, but it's a clan where everyone's a ninja primarily loyal to the clan and will be directly involved in the event. Considering it seemed to be coming pretty soon, I'm guessing while it might have started small, by the time of the flashbacks they were in the final planning stages and had brought everyone on board.

[identity profile] mika-kun.livejournal.com 2011-09-03 03:57 pm (UTC)(link)
There are at least two people in that clan that turned out to value the village more and we don't see enough of the clan to get any idea about most of them. If there are at least two, why can't there be more?