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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2010-07-24 06:49 am

Tripletsverse!

So I've got this dilemma. I got this little timeline all set up and I'm in the middle of writing femme!Naruto/Hinata making out and I still don't know wtf to name her! Hinata uses naruto-chan in her POV, btw, but Naruto-chan hasn't introduced herself so I have no clue what name she wants for herself. I think she hasn't decided yet but as the author I still gotta figure it out, damn it.

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[identity profile] nobody-famous.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
Strange, I've never heard menma used for bamboo shoots in Japanese. Take is the more common form, or takenoko for smaller ones. Of course my jApanese is far from perfect so it's very possible that menma means something alongs the same lines... Where did you find that translation?

[identity profile] nobody-famous.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
Ah okay, so it's the name of a dish. That makes sense.

And yeH, takenoko would be a pretty crappy name. XD

[identity profile] nobody-famous.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:34 am (UTC)(link)
Oh! One other thing, there isn't a yi sound in Japanese. If that's something you're worried about.

sorry, I don't mean to come off as a Japanese know-it-all in this post. >,<:;

[identity profile] joisbishmyoga.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 03:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Google says yin-yang is in-yo in Japanese.

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:23 am (UTC)(link)
I'm just not into fandom convention, even if Naruko is common. I don't like the sound, and I always feel like it lacks a certain amount of imagination.

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I actually feel like it is trendy--too trendy. I've seen it in way too many fandoms,too. Oh, we need a girl version of someone? Lets just change the last syllable to -ko!

A very long, very stale trend, which can just stop now plz.

[identity profile] trishalynn.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 01:19 pm (UTC)(link)
"-ko" is the symbol for child, I think. So that's where it comes from.

[identity profile] uneko.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
From wikipedia: "As mentioned above, female given names often end in the syllable ko, written with the kanji meaning "child" (子). This was much more common up to about the 1980s, but the practice does continue today. Male names occasionally end with the syllable ko, but very rarely using the kanji 子 (most often, if a male name ends in ko, it ends in hiko, using the kanji 彦). Common male name endings are -shi and -o; names ending with -shi are often adjectives, e.g., Atsushi which might mean, for example, "(to be) faithful.""

also randomly interesting, but not at all related to the matter at hand: "In the past (before World War II), names written with katakana were common for women, but this trend seems to have lost favour. Hiragana names for women are not unusual. Kana names for boys, particularly those written in hiragana, have historically been very rare. This may be in part because the hiragana script is seen as feminine; in medieval Japan, women generally were not taught kanji and wrote exclusively in hiragana."

Anyway, the whole article at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_name is kinda interesting.

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I realize what it means, to that extent. But I think the real issue is that in English speaking fandom, it's the probably the most widely recognized feminine ending for a name, so people gravitate to it.

[identity profile] joisbishmyoga.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 02:55 pm (UTC)(link)
*sneaks in* Both right. It's trendy in fandom, "lookit my Japanese skillz aren't I kawaii", but in Japan -ko was popular in the 1960's and so it brings to mind a middle-aged woman. Kind of like Agatha or Martha does for the current adult generation in America.

[identity profile] charcoalcat.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
I would say just call her Naruto-chan, because it's significant in a lot of ways and reminds me of Kushina and her whirlpool village and I like that.


But then again, with the Kyuubiness of her, I'm kinda partial to Kit. Or, also Kittoko. Since kitto is certainly, without fail, etc., which is very Naruto.

Hmm, but I probably ought to have just voted for Naruto-chan for the sake of simplicity (sort of).

[identity profile] cheapriboflavin.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
I like Naru the best, but am also intrigued about renaming all three. I mean, does Naruto himself change when the other two are... er, outside? (I don't know what you would call it.) Something like, he's the core personality, but without the other two, he's not exactly Naruto... *ponders*

[identity profile] uneko.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
Naruko is cute :D
Naru is cute too, but I think not. :D
Soba is kinda a different thing then Ramen, I think XD
Misoko is really cute, actually :D
Menma, not so much.
Nori is cute! (so is Nari, actually, ti's like Naruto and nori together XD ... Nariko? :D )
Negi is sorta cute :D
Naruto-chan is jsut kinda uncreative and possibly confusing later XD Althoguth reading your comments.. I dunno ;_;

Na, Ru, and To are cute XD Maybe something like.. Nari, Rubi, and Toro so liek the first sound is the same as.. er.. no.. maybe the last sy;llable? Misona, Kyoru, Himoto? Those are jsut names I randomly made up, by the way :P and.. that's still kind of dumb :P

I dunno.. Maybe.. maybe... (I didn't read the first entry, so I don't know if this is a 'three minds one body' thing or a three bodies thing) she starts out as naruto-chan, or Naruko and picks a name later for HERSELF, rather then 'borrowing' naruto-the-boys?

This comment has been pointless!

*thinks entirely too hard about these things*

[identity profile] kohikari.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 09:45 am (UTC)(link)
- "Naruko" makes sense but is boring--she strikes me as (perhaps wanting to be) more original than that.

* "Naru" is short, sweet, and adorable, a nice balance of similar and different.

- "Soba" reminds me of the D.Gray-man character Kanda, as that is all that he ever eats ever (and then my brain goes down the rather distracting path of Bitchyface Kanda + Bubbly Buxom Blonde = XDDDDD). I kind of hate "Menma" and "Negi" for no good reason (apparently the voters agree), and am ambivalent about "Misoko."

* "Nori" is cute, original, and starts with an N, but then my brain overanalyses it and starts unnecessarily insinuating things about the deeper meaning and implications of Naruto Prime being the swirly fish cakes on top, the feminine/kitsune side being the seaweed base/soupy bits, and if Naruto's psyche is a bowl of ramen then what ingredient would Kyuubi be? *headdesk*

* "Naruto-chan" is also sense-making! But I guess the degree of difference between the new name and the original name would correlate to how different she feels and how much she wants to establish herself as separate now from Naruto Prime. Or something.

* "Yin" is sense-making and simple and kind of cute and the Yang-Wang thing makes me giggle, so I like that one!

* I also really like the "Kit" idea [livejournal.com profile] charcoalcat brought up.


...My brain is telling me that it's really up to her and what she wants and where she is in her headspace. On a sliding scale of difference, Naruto-chan < Naruko < Naru < ramen names < Yin < Kit (or is it Kit < Yin?) @_@

*promises to shut up now*

[identity profile] mackenziex.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 10:38 am (UTC)(link)
Ruko. Shortened from the fandom tradition of Naruko, and I have seen Japanese nicknames formed from the last few syllables of a name with either -kun or -chan as the suffix.
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[personal profile] tephra 2010-07-24 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Sticking with the ramen theme, Shio. Shio ramen is "salt ramen" which is pretty much ramen at it's most basic and can be dressed up with any toppings a person is willing to put on there.

[identity profile] nothri.livejournal.com 2010-07-24 06:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I recommend Kit, ala 'Kitsune'.

[identity profile] midnigh-unicorn.livejournal.com 2010-07-25 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
I'm voting for Soba, because I think if she loved ramen like Naruto does,that's more the childish impulse she'd go with, rather than something significant.

If you weren't already planning to already, you should totally write a fic or series of fics debating this.

And what about the KyuuNaru? Is he just Kyuubi? 'Cause a lot of people aren't going to like calling him that, and though he won't give a fluck, Naruto might want to try to convince him otherwise.

[identity profile] flowerflute.livejournal.com 2010-07-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
Ruko-chan! And Kyuu.

[identity profile] the-drop-zone.livejournal.com 2010-08-03 02:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty fond of Naru myself.