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Oh hell, why not. Stolen from Saropyon.
Give me a character/pairing from any fandom I participate in and I'll give you one fanon that I don't agree with.
Give me a character/pairing from any fandom I participate in and I'll give you one fanon that I don't agree with.
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I can conceive of them developing a relationship based on grudging mutual respect, and Naruto being Naruto, he could eventually make Kyuubi behave and have him come to tolerate humans in general and even protect a select few -- but the only reason he warned Sasuke not to kill Naruto is because if Naruto dies he would die too.
It's also kind of annoying when people forget he's not human. He's a demon fox. >;( He might have the ability to shapeshift like legendary kitsune, and therefore he could stop caring about the shape of people he meets, but the soul? Kitsune. V. much kitsune. I don't like it when he behaves human or has human values. He's a giant destructive fox.
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I guess I don't like the "dumb slutty whore" aspect. I don't think she's dumb -- she's been shown to know a lot of things about Oro's organization and other political things, and while it doesn't show she's a strategist or anything, it proves that at least she's street-wise enough to keep informed.
also man, ponytailed karin is hot.
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There's a funny little fact, in the whole aeris/tifa dating game aspect that decides which one of them you get to date during the Gold Saucer episode, where you score points with one of them if you do something good for them, and you lose points if you do something that pisses them off or makes them feel abandoned for the other chick. Funnily enough, at some point if you do something nice for Aeris (I forget what, exactly), it gets you Tifa points -- because she's relieved/glad for this and you being nice/thoughtful/protective to Aeris means Tifa likes you better.
Canon proof she's not a selfish bitch.
She would not hate Cloud for being gay, and would not try to backstab Aeris for dating Cloud, and would not... blargh. Of course she might get jealous, but it's much more likely to show itself as depression and "I'm not good enough for X / I should have been more decisive/I should have guessed from the start", not as "I hate Y it's all their fault X didn't fall for me/turned gay!"
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The one I hate the most ATM is the one that equates Sakura getting character development -- becoming a better person and more mature and stronger -- with her dropping Sasuke, giving up on ever bringing him home, and "seeing him as he really is", IE a heartless evil irredeemable traitor that she'll tolerate for Naruto's sake but really he deserves nothing but her contempt... THAT will, somehow, really show that she's "grown up".
Naruto isn't gonna give up on him, ever. Why should Sakura give up on him -- not even as a potential boyfriend, but as a TEAMMATE? Learning how to give up isn't becoming mature, it's becoming jaded. The two might happen together but they're still different things, and I don't see how being "realistic" and losing hope and drive is supposed to make her become someone strong and inspiring that you can admire. That'd be a sucky character arc.
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Also I don't like it much when he's depicted as a suave smirky seme who's always in perfect control and goes around seducing people and borderline non-coning them. That's, uh. No? He's a strong-willed person, okay, he likes to be in control of everything, okay -- but the way he socializes with his peers, with Sakura and Ino and Karin? He's the farthest thing from a suave lady's man -- and a rapist even less so. Urgh.
The thought of Sasuke skillfully seducing people makes me laugh. His idea of romance is probably "Hey. You. Train with me." and he'd be a LOT more likely to show his approval by discreet gestures of care than by actually talking about it, so the romantic dates and declarations on bended knee, um... not so much, no.
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Okay, I don't especially love the guy. And he did drop the ball a little with Naruto (though post-timeskip he picked it back up), and a LOT with Sakura. I don't think he taught her anything except how to water-walk. But at the same time I hate the idea that it was because he didn't care because he was busy sucking Uchiha cock. 1) Sasuke was in more danger, 2) Sasuke's abilities and affinities are close to Kakashi's so it's a lot easier for Sasuke to learn from him anyway.
It was the first time Kakashi had ever passed a team. He didn't have a CLUE how to handle a bunch of kids, as opposed to a platoon. He tried his best. His best wasn't good enough for all three of them. He doesn't deserve to be crucified for that. He didn't hate Naruto, just found him very excitable and wasn't really equipped to be the doting, loving father figure Naruto was looking for. Sakura demanded his attention less loudly than the boys, so he spent more energy on the boys -- he's not used to balancing that kind of stuff.
Frankly, I don't think he's a great teacher for anyone he can't personally relate to -- but that doesn't make him a bad person. A broken person, yes. Deliberately disdainful or malicious, hell no. He seems to relate to Sakura and Naruto much more easily now that they're not 12 anymore, too.
He was a good teacher to Sasuke, and to Naruto after Naruto grew up, and Sakura doesn't seem to resent him. And he's good as a platoon leader. He wasn't a great teacher, especially when they were younger, but that doesn't mean he never gave a shit about Naruto and Sakura.
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I guess I don't like much it when people write the dynamic as Sakura being so awesome and suetastic that she deserves two boyfriends who tolerate each other for her sake. But, it's still kinda ot3, I cannot hate it. >_>;; (so long as there's no They're Not Gay At All Despite Balls Touching During Sandwichtiems Rly; i tend to start eyerolling so hard I can't keep reading the story.)
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... shit, Advent Children made that canon. Original Cloud tended to be kinda dry-witted and dorky and he did actually get angry and frustrated and combative at people instead of woeisme! But mostly I don't mind him being depressed in AC because he did need time to absorb all the shit he went through and it's okay that he retreated for a while.
What I really don't like is stories written when he was 15 and he was oh so sweet and innocent and everyone wanted to rape him like he emitted some kind of please-molest-me-iyaaaaaan~ pheromones. The guy left his village at 14 to get into the army! He dealt with bullies every day of his life before that and did not break! Let him show a little spine before you have Zack or Seph or Reno swoop in to save his sweet jailbait ass.
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HEERO. >O
Re: HEERO. >O
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Also, Hinata, and the pairing SasuHina?
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For Hinata, hmmmm. I don't really know about her fanon tropes. Maybe the super awesome hyuuga heiress who is quietly super competent and princess-like and also an awesome womanly wife etcetera, but actually if it's done as a result of character growth and not as a totally random "yeah she's like that because i said so now naruto is totally gonna love her" i don't mind it much.
As for the sasuhina fanon I hate the most, I wrote that ficlet about it a couple years ago XD; now I regret posting it a tiny bit (it's going to stay up whatever happens though), but I still hate the idea. So many original things they could do to get them together! But no, let's go with that same old tired cliche. no idea if the sasuhina fandom got any better about it since then, i really haven't been looking.
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So what about Sephiroth? (This is coming from someone who never got to finish the damn game, cause her PS2 crapped out!)
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Also hating any fic that's anything like "Naruto gives up on Sasuke, and then Sasuke is sorry." Fuck y'all. Naruto would never give up. But even if he did, Sasuke would have more pride than to go running and begging after him. He has a lot more pride than is healthy; it's a key component of his personality. Also there's a major difference between a passionate love/hate relationship and an abusive relationship and I wish more writers would remember it.
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Everything from Naruto is taken, so... Zaraki Kenpachi:D And maybe Wufei?^^
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Wufei *snuggles*!!!!!! I lurve him! One thing I don't like about fanon is the "angry and angsty, with no point to it either, 'Fei" that comes across as whiny. I mean, he's a
freaking noble, from a Chinese clan known for its pride and intelligence? He would not whine! And He always has a point too, and I have little doubt that if he put his mind to it he could pull off better pranks than Duo (although they'd probably be pulled ON Duo, so...) He's got a very dry sense of humor, so I don't think he'd actually do it.
Hmm, if I were to compare him to a weapon, he would be a scalpel. Designed for quick precise strikes. He was smart to blow up the pilots barracks instead of the mobile suit sheds.
What about...
(Anonymous) 2009-06-01 02:51 am (UTC)(link)Re: What about...
Actually I'd love it if the threesome had enough fic to even HAVE fanon. Woe.
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