askerian: Serious Karkat in a red long-sleeved shirt (Aske_Mermaids in SPACE)
askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2007-05-01 07:40 am

space mermaids character development stuff

Still trying to understand my Space Mermaid OCs... I'm learning to know them and inventing stuff about them, but I'm still not sure I really know them well enough. Hrrm. So i'm going to ramble a bit. If anyone wants to point out stuff where it doesn't make sense, or just babble along or something, go for it, though i'm mostly just talking to myself right now. XD;

But if anyone wants to offer "what would they do if (X) happened?"-type questions, I'll be grateful. It might help me define them better. ^__^;



Arun's parents are both doctors in some science or other, so they're fairly well-off. They live on a planet that's geared toward learning and preserving knowledge, full of schools and zoos and museums. That gives them a bit of a "we are the guardians of knowledge!" attitude. Arun rarely socializes with people with more "base" motives, not that he's consciously avoiding them, but like lots of rich kids he never really thought about having a deep, thought-provoking chat with the cleaning lady or the gardener's son. He's polite and jokes around with them, but it rarely goes any deeper.

Arun likes to think himself as a Good Guy, a Tolerant Guy, and also, a Funny Guy. Which he is, most of the time. He's goofy and doesn't like to take things seriously, and is driven by an intense curiosity. To him, learning is a game. Having fun is important. So he learns. As a tolerant open-minded guy, and one who majored in biology to boot, he's concerned with environmental activism, terraforming, ethical treatment of animals and all that. It's partly as part of his image, but he really does care. He cares easily.

He's a little self-righteous, and quick to anger when he feels threatened. He can get downright petty if he feels trapped by someone with authority, which is why he tends to shift his rapports with people over him (like bosses, parents) toward friendly teasing and jokes which allow him to not take them seriously. He'll listen to their arguments, and then agree and obey, or not agree and either inwardly roll his eyes and humor them, or find a way around it. He hates being ordered around. He's not blindly prideful either -- he won't take unreasonable, disproportionate risks by refusing to comply to something he's being made to -- but that's what puts pressure on him. Having to obey to someone and not being able to question it.

...So basically he's a very popular guy, and deserves it, as long as things go his way. He gets grouchy and snarky and passive-aggressive when it doesn't, though he tends to rant and swear to blow off stream verbally. If it gets physical, he would start with shoves and work his way up, but he wouldn't attempt to do serious, lasting harm.

He also thinks that killing is never okay, and while he might kill to save himself and others if there was absolutely no other way -- unless he hesitated too much and lost his chance -- he would regret it forever.





Blue's mother raised him alone. He grew up in a poor area, the kind where a third of the population is without a job and it's not too safe alone at night. His life wasn't utterly horrible, he didn't do drugs (okay, he tried something like cannabis, but that's not his thing), he didn't routinely get into knife fights, he had clothes and ate everyday; still, it wasn't good either. He didn't like school, not through lack of intelligence but he learns by example better than by explanation, so he got an apprenticeship with a mechanic.

Blue thinks of himself as a fighter. He tries not to think in terms of right and wrong because his life wasn't fair and no one cares, so he's not going to care right back. If he had lived a better life he would have cared about people more, but he's aware that he has to make himself come first, so he doesn't. He does what needs to be done to stay fed, warm and safe, though he draws the line at killing in cold blood, or killing children who could be slapped down instead. (he knows a kid with a knife can do as much damage as an adult, but hey, tall guy, more reach, he can probably manage.) He doesn't give his respect easily, and doesn't obey people he doesn't respect, but once it's given he doesn't question orders, unless they're really horrible or stupid.

In the last couple of years he has relaxed because the crew offers him some stability. He still makes a clear difference between in-group and outsiders. In-group people might get on his nerves, but they're his people and he'll kill for them. He's somewhat wary and a lot quieter and colder around outsiders, even those qualified as harmless.

What gets him stressed out is conflict between what he needs to do and what's fair. Deep down he's a fairly "justice" oriented type. He'll get really tense if he's doing something that he knows will seriously fuck over some poor sap who doesn't deserve it... But he'll still do it. >>;; He wouldn't show it though, he tends to withdraw when he's angry. If he really gets pissed, he wouldn't kick or hit things, because he doesn't want to damage anything he might have to spend money to replace; but if there's someone angering him at the time, if they push far enough he'll go from cold and watchful to going for the jugular in a second. He doesn't bother much with posturing and escalating when he fights; he'll give a few disdainful comments if the other guy is ranting at him, meanwhile he decides whether he wants to ignore, knock down the guy, or kill him, and then BAM he does it. He doesn't lose his head easily.

If he had to kill, he would feel some remorse, but he'd smother it because he can't afford to guilt his life away.





Liadan's father is the typical patriarch kind, and she has several mothers and siblings. She wasn't the oldest, but the oldest sons left already and the daughter was also the daughter of the previous leader and became one of her father's subordinates' mates, so she's not considered a child anymore. In their communal lifestyle, Liadan, like all children, was given responsibilities early. She learned to appear calm and dependable because that gave her positive attention.

Liadan thinks of herself as a dutiful, calm and borderline passive daughter. She's dutiful and calm, yes, but she's also good at using the rules and regulations to her advantage. For example, she wanted to drift, so she calmly and gently and smilingly told her father that she was too old to stay in his pod now, and there was another pod not too far away, they'd noticed the stuff on the currents, and don't worry, I'll be cautious... and then of course she never thought she was lying, because in her mind she rationalized it as "there are pods everywhere, I'll just let the sea currents take me -- oh a shiny thing in the opposite direction, well, that will just be a little detour."

She's been raised to be a good, submissive girl, and she is, but only in appearance, because she tends to gently question and advise her husband in ways that, ideally, make him think it was all his idea. She's sort of manipulative that way, and tends to divert any conversation or situation she doesn't like instead of confronting them openly. She uses delaying and denial as avoidance techniques.

Her serene, thoughtful attitude made her mothers give her a lot of authority on the other, younger children; she's got a tendency to be overbearing, because she knows that she knows better, for she is the wise, mature Liadan. She's quite satisfied by her own maturity.

Losing her freedom would rattle her. Not in the "being captured by pirates" way, that's still an adventure. If she was caught by a male, made to join a pod, and got pregnant, she wouldn't be able to drift off again, she'd have a responsibility. And she knows she will have to, someday, soon, but she's trying to hold it off as hard as she can. She wouldn't get violent with a dominant male, though. She wouldn't even think of it. If it was a matter of survival, she would strike, out of desperation, and she would strike to kill, but she isn't physically aggressive. She cries when she gets angry, and might yell a little, but she would keep that to a minimum since she doesn't want to attract danger, either.

If she was pushed far enough to kill, she would not regret it, because she most likely would not even see the opponent as human; she'd see it as a dangerous predator, which must be eliminated for everything to be good again.

[identity profile] darksideofstorm.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
*is completely fascinated by all three*

You've covered Liadan's attitude towards the opposite sex fairly well, particularly her husband. But what about Blue and Arun? Have they had past encounters that would play a shaping role with either the opposite/same sex - Arun sounds like he would have a smidge of play boy in him, but Blue sounds like he might be a little more reserved...?

[identity profile] darksideofstorm.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 11:41 am (UTC)(link)
*laughs* I have a one track mind :D

Well that about covers it! (hee, emofratboy!Arun = toocute)

Couple more questions: would Arun have a different view to the straight/gay/bi issue then Blue, having been brought up by classy people? Likewise what does Liadan think (do they have gay merpeople?)

Probably not relevent to the story, but what happened to Blue's dad?

[identity profile] darksideofstorm.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 12:41 pm (UTC)(link)
*feels loved* XD

Haha, I like Arun, he sounds very much like a friend of mine. Being a fratboy guy, would he have a knee-jerk reaction to teh ghay before the higher brain function kicks in and says 'I am okay with this'? Or is he solid nice guy (I ask because I'm hoping wondering if it's going to come up between him and Blue...?)

I love the merpeople logic (and the word 'twine' for some reason, that's just a perfect word to use). Though mermaid anatomy is making me wonder how... exactly... do they get that nice byproduct XDD

New question! (I'll stop if you want me to ^__^) You've established that Arun is The Funny Guy, but I'm wondering about the other two. Specifically Liadan, as I can see Blue being the wry foil to Arun's more Duo/Naruto-like humour, but do merpeople go in for chuckles?

p.s.

[identity profile] darksideofstorm.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 12:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Probably ditched his mom when he found out she was pregnant. They weren't married. ^^

Ah, that sucks. I assume he's on the far side of Over It by now though?

Re: p.s.

[identity profile] darksideofstorm.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
And since Blue has no reason to be all "yay i talk about myself",

*cracks up* I just had a sudden vivid image of Arun being totally 'yay I DO talk about myself' to pass the time, and completely knocking Blue over the head with it.

And then he'll be all HSS HSS about it, because nooo strong guy from a nice place! being molested by a guy is a no-no! DDD: Basically he wouldn't care that Blue likes guys, if he didn't use it to make Arun uncomfortable. XD

*laughs* guy dynamics are teh fun. So I can see exactly how snarky!Blue would annoy Arun all over, but what does Arun do to get under Blue's skin?

No sex from the back? Well that's no fun! XD Poor merpeople, though I'm sure they've come up with a bunch of ways to compensate for the loss ;)

Liadan is going to be one of those wonderfully blunt characters that unintentionally trips the guys up by Asking Questions She Shouldn't, isn't she?
ext_9839: Yuko (woo)

[identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 10:57 am (UTC)(link)
*cough* Because my mind is permanenetly in the gutter. What's the set up for an OT3?

Hummm~ Liadan and lying, because she's going to communicate with the rest of civilization sooner or later, how does she feel about it? Lying to other people? Other people lying to her? Watching other people lie to each other?
ext_9839: Yuko (Default)

[identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 04:39 pm (UTC)(link)
OT3 you say. What do you want to know exactly?

Since Liadan is such a cutie, I guess I'll ask how it'll work out structurally in her head. And how much of humanity's social standards will she adopts, cause I'm guessing your world would be done with homophobes by then.
ext_9839: Yuko (Default)

[identity profile] lukita.livejournal.com 2007-05-03 02:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Hee~ ♥ Oh this is great, I have no idea why but I usually enjoy subtext more than the actual canon (unless they're just really cute together). Poor confooze Liadan, she is just so cute. ^_____^

:D

(Anonymous) 2007-05-01 02:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Space Mermaids YAY!

You have wonderful characterizations - and three rather strong willed people. Is anyone going to try to pull the "alpha" schtick? Who would it be and what would the responses be?

~MommyR

Re: :D

(Anonymous) 2007-05-02 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
How does Liadan feel about each of the boys? Is there any interest there beyond the "new/exciting/strange"? I love how you've really thought about physiology, and what's possible (XD) and am wondering: who would initiate, bring relationship to the next level?

How does Liadan feel about interest in "two-tails"? Would there be stigma from her pod at all? How will her pod feel about Blue and Arun? How will Blue's crew feel about Liadan?

so many questions! <3

~MommyR

Re: :D

(Anonymous) 2007-05-02 02:29 pm (UTC)(link)
So, "two-tails are often taboo in many pods" How often have regular humans been seen then?

Ooooh - conflict with Lujayn? :D I'm curious to see how that would go! Is Liadan very strong? How does she handle being out of the water (since everything is heavier there :p)

I can hardly wait for your next installment! (oh, did you get the pics I'd emailed you of the fight?)

~MommyR

Re: :D

(Anonymous) 2007-05-02 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
*bwee!*

look forward to hearing from you when I get a chance - until then am absolutely loving THIS. (details! love the details!)

Because of the way the mer society seems to be set up, is Liadan going to have any conflict with her biological clock going off at some point? The push towards reproduction (you'd alluded to how strange it would be for her to be in a poly-relationship with 2 guys, multiple women being the norm) seems very strong.

To further push her boundries, how will Liadan take to the idea of a female "warrior", once she processes it?

If Arun annoys Blue just by existing, how does Blue annoy Arun? And what are they going to do about it? :D

(I'm at work now . . . that is how addicting your stories are XD)

~MommyR

[identity profile] animeprincess.livejournal.com 2007-05-01 06:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to know why Blue dyes his hair. I mean, I get that hey neat, it's a fun color or a rebellion thing, but why that particular shade? And perhaps even how far the gene-tweaking thing goes.

[identity profile] animeprincess.livejournal.com 2007-05-02 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
I thought I'd remembered something about gene-tweaking hair color being popular, like in a conversation. I was wondering if it went further than that, like in the Naruto!Cyborg!verse.

[identity profile] kineko.livejournal.com 2007-05-02 08:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Suka juste un petit truc a part, tu viens a epita ou pas? VSD a un stand, mais on a pas le zine, donc on vendra des tee shirts, des badges tout ca.. Faut appeller Morgane pour voir de quoi elel abesoin dans l'immédiat.
Répond vite, pasque mine de rien, c'est du 18 au 20 mai peita cette année.. dans 15 jours quoi...

[identity profile] j-ecrirai.livejournal.com 2007-05-02 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Epita? What Epita? Et où? Desolé de s'inserer comme ça. Desolé pour le français si je me trompe. C'est où? C'est un expo? *toute excité*