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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2006-10-10 05:58 am
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So someone just asked me how exactly I managed to teach myself English. And I figured I was too lazy to type it again next time someone asks, and hey, maybe it would entertain people, so here's the story. XD

Hi, [livejournal.com profile] bluefate!



When I was in high school, I sucked at english; I could say "my name is Asuka" (my name isn't really Asuka. XD) and "I like cheese". Well, maybe a little more than that, like very basic grammar rules, but I couldn't keep them in mind more than a few seconds. Not that I wanted to, because I had the same teacher for four years and he was pretty much just wasting time until retirement. And then I ended up with a slave-driver teacher who wanted us to be EXCELLENT, but I didn't have any bases to follow her mad rhythm on, so I just stopped trying. She was a good teacher, I just couldn't follow. I didn't have a lot of vocabulary either... I mean, seriously, my average was maybe 20, 25% and that was on good days.

... and then I got into Yuyu Hakusho and was walloped over the head by the obvious sexual tension between Hiei and Kurama. Alas! the French yaoi fandom didn't have much more than a handful of stories to read. So I got my parents to buy me a pocket-sized english/french dictionary (still have it ♥ in fact it's hiding under my keyboard) and started reading one-shots. At first I ran to my dictionary every two words, and I had to puzzle out the grammar; I even had to translate it on paper because I wouldn't remember the beginning of a sentence before I got to the end. XD;;; Eventually, though, some words started to stick and I didn't need to run for the dictionary quite so often. Besides, there's only so many times I could see cock in a sex scene before I figured out it didn't mean rooster.

So in the end, that's how I learned, by total immersion. Goes to show that learning depends a lot on proper motivation. I mean, good grades? Who cares. But HAWT KURAMAxHIEI YAOI LEMON is serious business. XD (also... Reading lemons in the living room with my family standing behind me, none the wiser? PRICELESS.)

I never learned my list of irregular verbs by heart; I just read fic and read more fic until some spelling or some other started feeling right to me. Most of the time I can't say WHY I chose a word and not another; I really couldn't tell you anything about the underlying grammar rules, I just think it's what sounds right -- and sometimes I still get it wrong. There's still a lot of my English vocabulary that I can't translate into French without a dictionary, because I learned to use it from context. And sometimes it lead to funny mix-ups when I misunderstood. Also, pop culture and references to current TV shows took a while to get... but hey. I used to read three books a week; now I read about that much, except in fanfics. Couldn't stay at the same crappy level all my life. XD

So that's the story of how Internet taught me English.

[identity profile] kaigou.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Besides, there's only so many times I could see cock in a sex scene before I figured out it didn't mean rooster.

*dies laughing*

Believe me, if there were tons o' chinese-only hot fanfics in my fandoms, I'd probably be fluent in my language o' choice, too!

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:16 am (UTC)(link)
....Clearly, I need to find me some vast sea of French porn.

[identity profile] anatinea.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:31 am (UTC)(link)
Ditto, man. Because the seven years of school-taught French didn't do squat for me. >_<;

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[identity profile] malika.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:25 am (UTC)(link)
A++ XDD
if only I could teach myself Spanish/French/Italian that way... >.>

[identity profile] beachlass.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I always forget that

*hits head*

Excusez moi pour le mauvais francais, et les accents manques.

Je pense que j'ai un dictionaire de rez-de-chaussee.

J'oublie toujours que vous etes francais. C'est fantastique que vous apprendrez comme ca, et vous sais deja que j'aime votre ecriture beaucoup. C'est une source d'inspiration pour moi, de penser que je se perfectionnes en francais aussi.

Merci.

[identity profile] silverkiiri.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I still think you have to be some kind of smart to do that, Asuka. It's really incredible.

And I want to try reading bunches of Japanese now.

But woes the translating, it must be done twice, cause most Japanese people just aren't thoughtful enough to write in romanji. XD See my laziness.

[identity profile] ktoth04.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
haha i agree! we need japanese porn written in romaji!!!!

[identity profile] bemysty.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
My story is pretty much exactly the same, just with GW instead of YYH :D

Now I'd just need some high quality porn in Japanese (as opposed to those RPS golden shower olympics I get linked to T^T)
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[identity profile] stripedpetunia.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:33 am (UTC)(link)
I'm afraid there seems to be no such thing as 'quality Japanese porn', dear. D: Pity, that.

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[identity profile] stripedpetunia.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:30 am (UTC)(link)
If only I could have some kind of motivation strike me that strongly with language learning. You lucky ho. ^^

でも、アニメと漫画を分かることはいいモティベションたろうね。(^。ー)
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[identity profile] stripedpetunia.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:34 am (UTC)(link)
I MISSED A TENTEN ON 'DAROU'. *stabbity*

[identity profile] spacefragments.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:48 am (UTC)(link)
Man, I don't even remember how I learned english. I mean, sure, I learnt a lot in my 12 years of school, but... it was all pretty gradual (and I've always been good at it. xD *flaunts*). The internet and videogames sure helped a lot, though. I still do the "look up phrases on Google" thing when I'm not sure if my grammar or slang are right.

<3 I used two english-spanish dictionaries, one was shit, but the other one was awesome. I still have both, but now my sisters use them.

[identity profile] ktoth04.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:53 am (UTC)(link)
wait... no...

yup, i just stared at your icon for like... 5 minutes straight


god thats funny

[identity profile] the--ivorytower.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
That sounds oddly like how I learned to type: through fanfiction, though in my case, it was the fact that my friend would NOT type my fanfics any more, so I needed to learn how, and at the same time roleplaying on IRC.

I remember when I discovered why you put an accent on an e. I was so proud.

/wrists.

Anyway...

[identity profile] hitori-toshiro.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
C'est bizarre, mais...
C'est aussi ce qui s'est passé pour moi :o
En 3ème, j'étais un des plus mauvais de ma classe dans la matière.
Et en terminale, j'ai découvert les joies de l'ADSL en france, des animes en VOSTA et des lemons anglophones.
Et maintenant je suis en fac d'anglais XD

Porn roxx ! XD

[identity profile] littlegothsin.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 06:46 am (UTC)(link)
Moi aussi moi aussi ! J'ai appris à lire l'anglais sur du mauvais pwp Yuyu Hakusho !

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[identity profile] meritjubet.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 06:43 am (UTC)(link)
This brings to mind when I was being woken up by a rooster. I wa slearbing french at school. Animals to be exact and referred to it as a cock. Multiple times. And didn't know until several weeks later why everyone was staring at me like that. I felt so stupid.

"Yes, at the same time every night this cock keeps waking me up. It's so loud. I hate cocks."

Perhaps that is why a lesbian rumour started up...? XD

[identity profile] little-ursa.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
lol It's soooo similar to my story=)))))) Only in my case it was Slayers's and Weiss Kreuz's fandoms

[identity profile] proanon.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 08:22 am (UTC)(link)
...that's so close to how I originally learned Japanese that it's almost scary. With the slight difference that your English is a helluva lot better than my Japanese, and I switched over to formal classes when I got the chance, while continuing to read on the side. (Although I read manga, rather than lemony fanfiction. Although come to think of it, I do dip into Japanese fanfiction occasionally, these days...)

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[identity profile] lissiel.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
But HAWT KURAMAxHIEI YAOI LEMON is serious business.

YES.

Also? Your french fics are the only thing keeping me from completely losing my highschool french.

[identity profile] traveling-storm.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 09:35 am (UTC)(link)
That's pretty damned amazing. ^_^ *adds in with the others who need more french porn fics in their chosen fandoms to learn with* It's ridiculous that my entire family can speak the language and I can't. What a Canadian I am. ^__^

[identity profile] siedhr.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 10:23 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, your story reminds me of learning proper French in order to read Baudelaire. I forgot a lot of it by now, but I still remember that feeling.

[identity profile] rasilverstorm.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 10:39 am (UTC)(link)
then I was lucky, I had 2 English teachers that where both fun and easy for learning, next to my family living in different places so being FORCED to learn it XDD

Sadly my French is BAD, I've had it for 2 years, of which the second didn't count, I can read it and understand it, but translate or write in it? nope
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[identity profile] little-ursa.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
why Palestinians and Russians?
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[identity profile] ivyadrena.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 01:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Goes to show that learning depends a lot on proper motivation. I mean, good grades? Who cares. But HAWT KURAMAxHIEI YAOI LEMON is serious business. XD (also... Reading lemons in the living room with my family standing behind me, none the wiser? PRICELESS.)

XD! My gods, you are brilliant. I'm offically gonna go pick up some more language dictionaries, and try to read some of my fave fics that were translated from English into something else.. cause then I'd have a better idea of how sentence structure and grammar are shifted. Your fics are at the top of my list! <3

Only down side is that I wouldn't be able to do that last bit-- my step-dad speaks Quebequi French(did I mention my spelling sucks horribly?), and I'm not sure how much difference there is, dialect-ly speaking. *headdesk*
But! I had like part of a semester of French before I moved south, which somehow lets me halfway figure out quite a bit of french dialogue. Even better, when I know the context. O_o; *pokes brain*

[identity profile] valles-uf.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 01:45 pm (UTC)(link)
(also... Reading lemons in the living room with my family standing behind me, none the wiser? PRICELESS.)

*broken beyond the possibility of coherent speech*

[identity profile] bluemist617.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
That's amazing. For serious, I would never guess that you weren't a native speaker from your journal entries and fanfic. (Probably because it is much more coherent than anything most of my high school classmates could write)

And I think immersion really is an awesome way to learn. I mean, I never was good at Spanish before I tried listening to latino music and trying to read Harry Potter books (I still fail *tear*)
(And I actually might get to go to Japan for some Japanese immersion! I am so excited!)

Also:
1. Your icon! Eeehee!
2. The Hyuuga/Haruno fic from yesterday WINS. XD

[identity profile] mikkeneko.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
See... I remember your early English fanfic. ♥

[identity profile] sparklemagpie.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
*ROLLS* Clearly, Asuka, you just win at life. XD

Most of the time I can't say WHY I chose a word and not another; I really couldn't tell you anything about the underlying grammar rules, I just think it's what sounds right.

And srsly, I grew up on English, it's ALL I know how to speak, and that is EXACTLY how I write. I know very very little about the grammar rules of my language and I just go but what feels proper pretty much all the time.

Also - you're wonderful! <3333

[identity profile] bootoye.livejournal.com 2006-10-10 04:04 pm (UTC)(link)
*Besides, there's only so many times I could see cock in a sex scene before I figured out it didn't mean rooster.*

You made me laugh so hard ^^


You are an inspiration to all of us....now if only it was so easy to learn Japanese :)

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