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GWA board again...
EDIT: whoops, I wasn't clear enough, my bad. Hairdresser Chick and Entitlement Complex Chick are two different people ^______^;;; And I've been bothered by Entitlement Complex Chick's attitude for YEARS, which is why it took so little for me to get all RARR at her; I'm not usually quite that sensitive. XD
1) the "hairdresser Duo" strikes again. This time with a "where do you get the idea that the Gboys are gay?" post. 'feh. She's trying so hard to sound non-offensive. It... isn't reeeally working. Oh well, all things considered it's one of her most intelligent posts to date. I seriously wonder, though, how it is that she's been hanging around the GWA board for so many months and is still wondering what's the appeal of slashing boys together when there's nothing in canon proving it.
2) See, there are several kinds of feedback, and unless they are stupid and/or offending, they're all good.
-There's the smart analysis, which is good even when it points out things that don't work, because "OMG they spent time thinking about my fic!" Also because of the possibility of "oops, didn't notice, thanks, will fix so my fic is better".
-There's the fangirl squeeing, which is less intellectually stimulating, but is very very good in terms of happy glowy purring-ness. "wheee, they LOVED my fic!" *happies*
(also can seem less cold and detached than the analysis kind, which is a good thing because half the interest of a fic is the putting-facts-together, but another half is the emotional impact. So really, the two kinds of feedback = equal in my eyes though I like it even better when I know what you liked/noticed. XD)
I define the stupid in terms of 1) total pointlessness, 2) irrelevant-ness, 3) settle down a bit with the quadruple personalities on sugar high plz? and 4) HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE AUTHOR NOTES. (this one is an automatic KILLKILL button for me. Skip the author notes on your way in if you will, but if you've got a question at the end, you better check that it wasn't already answered before you hit send. XD)
The offending is 1) flames, 2) people assuming that I share their beliefs and biases, or if I don't, then I should, 3) people pimping their stories shamelessly, and 4) (which might be less fandom-general and more a me-thing, so people who don't know me from Adam wouldn't guess how much it really bugs me) Telling me to do stuff, even jokingly.
The girl is a regular on the forum. She doesn't spell so good and she isn't that inventive, but she has a habit of reading and commenting on almost everything. Even though most of the time it's not-that-deep one-liners of the "that was good *offers a cookie*" or "*lol* *pats your head*" kind -- that's still... Nice, I guess. As a person... *points at icon*, but these things happen -- sometimes we don't get along with perfectly all right people for some weird reason and that's the way it is -- and as she was never really, actively offensive and did go to the trouble of commenting at all, I tolerated her easily enough.
she uses a dragon ball Z mary-sue as her icon. right.
So I post my Garou sidefic-crack-things there.
you're evil you know that!
now work some on the actual story instead of teasing us!
So yeah, I realize it's a bit, not quite pointless, but ... too general in a way?, but not THAT offensive compared to some of the entitlement-whoring I've dealt with. Excepted that the girl tends to act like that a lot -- like her constant presence on the forum equals somehow a right to be patronizing. To keep with the werewolf theme XD... Like it makes her higher in the pecking order in some way. Like a dominant.
I, yeah, kinda tend to take that badly.
So I replied, as polite as I could because GWA is a place where you have to be polite. I was annoyed, though, and it shows (hell yes it does -- it's MEANT to show. I don't like her.), but I don't think I was that unreasonable.
you do realize that one of the major reasons why I got tired of the GW fandom was the way the "fans" kept demanding me to write for them as if they actually had a right to order me around and I had nothing better to do, right? I know you don't mean it that way, but my kneejerk reaction to any "now write!" comment about Garou is still a very impolite version of "I'll write what I want to write when I want to write it, and if you don't like it, I don't care." Please don't do it again.
Her reply:
You realise responces like that make me simply not want to review at all!
My first reaction, to be frank, was something of a THANK GOD. Because I was getting tired of having to pretend to be glad for every stupid, patronizing head-patting and cookie-giving and smarmy, empty "aren't you a good girl" mistake-ridden one-liner.
... my actual reply isn't much better, really. XD
You realize it won't be a big loss. Your reviews have never been particularly insightful or amusing.
I asked you politely to stop doing something that extremely bothers me, and now, seeing your reaction, I'm not so sure that this isn't exactly how you meant to sound; superior and entitled. So, to repeat: Garou is MY story. I write it when I want, IF I want. No one orders me around.
Allow me to share part of the author's notes that I have used at FFnet, and that I didn't think necessary to use here seeing as I truly believe that the average GWA member is way above the stupidity of the average FFnet member...
Quote:
I have left the GW fandom. Garou is NOT abandoned yet, but the updates will be REALLY slow (think maybe one chapter every 6 months to a year.) There's also the possibility that I will discontinue it. IF YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH THAT, DON'T START TO READ IT. The more mails I get yelling at me to get off my ass and write because I owe it to the readers to complete it, the less I feel like bothering. I've come this close to deleting the fic several times as it is. I really don't need the aggravation from its "fans".
So yes, if morons with an entitlement complex bother me too much about Garou, I will simply go around and delete every single copy there is on the web. Seeing that I don't have much of an emotional link with the story anymore, believe me, I really don't give enough of a damn about your "reviews" to actually apologize for being irritated by your inability to give me some respect. I'm a person, not a fic-writing machine. I was polite in explaining to you how I felt; you chose, not to understand what I felt, but to act offended and to blackmail me with your reviews.
Well. Keep them. No, really.
X3 Ahhh. *enjoying getting to be a bitch for once*
I realize she's not entirely in the OMG DIE category -- you're allowed to think that I reacted more harshly than I should have. I'm thinking I did, too, a little. Hey, maybe she really thinks that she was perfectly friendly and that her feedback is great.Though someone should really tell her that quality =/= quantity.
But I can't make myself feel guilty, because god does she push my "who the fuck do you think you are" button. Rarrr.
1) the "hairdresser Duo" strikes again. This time with a "where do you get the idea that the Gboys are gay?" post. 'feh. She's trying so hard to sound non-offensive. It... isn't reeeally working. Oh well, all things considered it's one of her most intelligent posts to date. I seriously wonder, though, how it is that she's been hanging around the GWA board for so many months and is still wondering what's the appeal of slashing boys together when there's nothing in canon proving it.
2) See, there are several kinds of feedback, and unless they are stupid and/or offending, they're all good.
-There's the smart analysis, which is good even when it points out things that don't work, because "OMG they spent time thinking about my fic!" Also because of the possibility of "oops, didn't notice, thanks, will fix so my fic is better".
-There's the fangirl squeeing, which is less intellectually stimulating, but is very very good in terms of happy glowy purring-ness. "wheee, they LOVED my fic!" *happies*
(also can seem less cold and detached than the analysis kind, which is a good thing because half the interest of a fic is the putting-facts-together, but another half is the emotional impact. So really, the two kinds of feedback = equal in my eyes though I like it even better when I know what you liked/noticed. XD)
I define the stupid in terms of 1) total pointlessness, 2) irrelevant-ness, 3) settle down a bit with the quadruple personalities on sugar high plz? and 4) HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE AUTHOR NOTES. (this one is an automatic KILLKILL button for me. Skip the author notes on your way in if you will, but if you've got a question at the end, you better check that it wasn't already answered before you hit send. XD)
The offending is 1) flames, 2) people assuming that I share their beliefs and biases, or if I don't, then I should, 3) people pimping their stories shamelessly, and 4) (which might be less fandom-general and more a me-thing, so people who don't know me from Adam wouldn't guess how much it really bugs me) Telling me to do stuff, even jokingly.
The girl is a regular on the forum. She doesn't spell so good and she isn't that inventive, but she has a habit of reading and commenting on almost everything. Even though most of the time it's not-that-deep one-liners of the "that was good *offers a cookie*" or "*lol* *pats your head*" kind -- that's still... Nice, I guess. As a person... *points at icon*, but these things happen -- sometimes we don't get along with perfectly all right people for some weird reason and that's the way it is -- and as she was never really, actively offensive and did go to the trouble of commenting at all, I tolerated her easily enough.
So I post my Garou sidefic-crack-things there.
you're evil you know that!
now work some on the actual story instead of teasing us!
So yeah, I realize it's a bit, not quite pointless, but ... too general in a way?, but not THAT offensive compared to some of the entitlement-whoring I've dealt with. Excepted that the girl tends to act like that a lot -- like her constant presence on the forum equals somehow a right to be patronizing. To keep with the werewolf theme XD... Like it makes her higher in the pecking order in some way. Like a dominant.
I, yeah, kinda tend to take that badly.
So I replied, as polite as I could because GWA is a place where you have to be polite. I was annoyed, though, and it shows (hell yes it does -- it's MEANT to show. I don't like her.), but I don't think I was that unreasonable.
you do realize that one of the major reasons why I got tired of the GW fandom was the way the "fans" kept demanding me to write for them as if they actually had a right to order me around and I had nothing better to do, right? I know you don't mean it that way, but my kneejerk reaction to any "now write!" comment about Garou is still a very impolite version of "I'll write what I want to write when I want to write it, and if you don't like it, I don't care." Please don't do it again.
Her reply:
You realise responces like that make me simply not want to review at all!
My first reaction, to be frank, was something of a THANK GOD. Because I was getting tired of having to pretend to be glad for every stupid, patronizing head-patting and cookie-giving and smarmy, empty "aren't you a good girl" mistake-ridden one-liner.
... my actual reply isn't much better, really. XD
You realize it won't be a big loss. Your reviews have never been particularly insightful or amusing.
I asked you politely to stop doing something that extremely bothers me, and now, seeing your reaction, I'm not so sure that this isn't exactly how you meant to sound; superior and entitled. So, to repeat: Garou is MY story. I write it when I want, IF I want. No one orders me around.
Allow me to share part of the author's notes that I have used at FFnet, and that I didn't think necessary to use here seeing as I truly believe that the average GWA member is way above the stupidity of the average FFnet member...
Quote:
I have left the GW fandom. Garou is NOT abandoned yet, but the updates will be REALLY slow (think maybe one chapter every 6 months to a year.) There's also the possibility that I will discontinue it. IF YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH THAT, DON'T START TO READ IT. The more mails I get yelling at me to get off my ass and write because I owe it to the readers to complete it, the less I feel like bothering. I've come this close to deleting the fic several times as it is. I really don't need the aggravation from its "fans".
So yes, if morons with an entitlement complex bother me too much about Garou, I will simply go around and delete every single copy there is on the web. Seeing that I don't have much of an emotional link with the story anymore, believe me, I really don't give enough of a damn about your "reviews" to actually apologize for being irritated by your inability to give me some respect. I'm a person, not a fic-writing machine. I was polite in explaining to you how I felt; you chose, not to understand what I felt, but to act offended and to blackmail me with your reviews.
Well. Keep them. No, really.
X3 Ahhh. *enjoying getting to be a bitch for once*
I realize she's not entirely in the OMG DIE category -- you're allowed to think that I reacted more harshly than I should have. I'm thinking I did, too, a little. Hey, maybe she really thinks that she was perfectly friendly and that her feedback is great.
But I can't make myself feel guilty, because god does she push my "who the fuck do you think you are" button. Rarrr.