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(naruto) meh ... worry

I've had several comments about how Naruto was a little bit OOC -- not in the scene I just posted, but in Teamwork in general. At first I was all *shrug* because, hey, everyone has a different interpretation of the characters, and everyone is going to be OOC for SOMEONE.

But this is the six or seventh time I've been told so. They didn't even say that they didn't like him like I write him, but still, he's ooc for them.

I can't see it, but then I'm writing him older (that and i've never had an easy time getting into his head, contrary to sasuke or sakura), so is it just that he's a bit more mature and they can't recognize loveable-brat!12yearold!naruto, or is it something else? It really bothers me. ;__;

I'm not searching for "Oh, of course not, you write him so well, even better than Kishimoto himself!!!!" replies (my ego is quite big enough as it is and does not fear a few little bruises, thank you XD), i'm asking for your honest opinion here, people. I like the way I write him, and i'm probably not going to change him all that much, even if he IS ooc (unless people raise a valid point about how, no, the ooc-ness can absolutely NOT be attributed to a difference of interpretation -- in which case I shall edit a lot), but having people see something in my fic that I can't say I put here consciously bothers me.

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Do I think your Naruto is not 100% in character as he's depicted in the series and manga? Certainly. Do I think he is a reasonable approximation of how Naruto might have grown and changed given the influences you've put him under? Absolutely.

For myself, I don't care if a character isn't 100% true to canon so long as the changes are reasonable and justified. In fact, most of my stories involve me taking liberties with one or more canon characters, but I do my best to justify the changes and I've never had any complaints.

I wouldn't worry too much about it. HOW many comments in total have you gotten on Teamwork? And only six or seven 'he's not in character' comments? You're doing just fine. *hugs*

And personally, I love your Naruto to pieces. It's entirely his fault I have a Kiba muse at all. ^_~

heh, i'm not saying that if people agree i'll stop writing, but it's a tiny annoyance that keeps coming back, so hnnn.

thanks, hon ^__^

I think this is rather funny. No, I don't really think your Naruto is OOC. Like miko_no_da said, the changes are reasonable and justified. How specific where the comments on this? Did they say how they thought Naruto wasn't IC? I have a few ideas where people might be coming from, but I don't want to dive into anything before I hear what they've said.

Your Naruto is great. Don't worry about it too much, and don't you dare mess with greatness to appease a few people, lest I hunt you down and beat your sense back into you. <3

well that's the problem, none of them said HOW he was OOC, just that he was a bit. no one ever said that sasuke or sakura was, so if six or seven people say that naruto is, well, there must be something i'm missing, even if it's a tiny something ;_;

just say what you have in mind, it's okay, I won't bite :D *licks you*

Not even an example with the comments? Those lamers.

Hmm... *pulls Asuka into lap and pets* The only angle I can think they might be referring to isn't an issue of OOCnes, it's an issue of fandom theory: Kyuubi's seal. It might not be about Naruto himself, they may be referring to his interaction with Kyuubi -- which happens much more intimately in your fics than it ever happened in the series, to the point where it's a much different relationship. But you know that already; you wrote it that way. And, by the way, I like it. I think most people do, and I think it's a driving force in your stories.

That's really the only thing I can think of. I consider myself decently equipped to recognize OOCness, and Naruto seems fine to me. But being obsessed about having canon facts straight, I also recognize the change in the way Naruto's seal works. I suppose it might be mistakenly considered OOC for anyone who can't follow the logic on that one. But, like I said, I like it, I think it's great.

Anyway, I'll ask around, as I know some of my friends have read your Teamwork series as well. Maybe they see things I don't, or are bothered by things I'm not.

yeah, way to make me paranoid. =_=;;

*!!* *cuddles up and purrs* <3<3

Hmm, makes sense. Guess I'll need to write stuff about how it evolved, so they see that kyuu and naru didn't start having heart-to-heart chats from one day to the next. At first naruto needed to at least be close to unconsciousness and oooh bunny. o_o;;;

ahh, that's so nice!! thanks ;______; *loves on*

First off...hi. You don't know me from Adam. Normally I wouldn't toss my two cents into your conversation, but this particular comment seems worth piping up about. So...

These people are out of their gordes. One of the reasons I like Teamwork so much is that you write the Naruto characters extremely well. Your characters react to the situations you toss them into the way I think the "real" characters would if they found themselves in similar situations. If we accept the idea that Naruto is bisexual, then I can think of nothing else you've done with the character that I don't believe. As others say, your characters change, but if these people want to bitch about character development they aren't worth listening to.

Anyway, that's what I had to offer. Hope it was helpful or something. I'll go back to lurking now.

*long time lurker here*
mmh I'm with the rest of the comments here, I think your Naruto is a really plausible future extention from the canon Naruto, I don't really see what people think is OOC about him...
(Unless they have been infected with the fanon view of "poor lil' uke!Naruto" ... wich makes me retch, personnaly, but to each their tastes *bleargh* ;)

Asuka, I agree with Anonymous here. Some people really have it in their heads that Naruto is a wide-eyed innocent uke. How they can think this after he - to name just two examples - cusses and pisses in front of girls in canon irks me to no end. I'm 99% certain that that is where these idiots are coming from. Change anything you're doing in Teamwork and I'll sandpaper you. J/k... maybe.

*loves on* haha! these are examples i'll have to re-use. thank you ^__^

Personnellement, moi je l'aime comme ça. C'est assez subjectif de dire, "il est OOC" ou pas. Chacun le voit à sa manière. Quand on écrit, il faut bien qu'on s'approprie un peu le personnage. Comme je le vois, Naruto peut très bien évoluer comme ça en grandissant. Dire qu'il est OOC - à moins que ce soit démentiellement évident à la lecture- c'est juste pour dire quelque chose.
Enfin maintenant, c'est mon avis. Si on devait lister le nombre de fics ou un personnage est OOC on serait pas rendu.
Tout ça pour dire que c'est évident ton Naruto n'est pas celui de Kishimoto à 100% mais tu respectes une certaine logique dans son évolution. Ce qui fait qu'il est à 90-95% authentique.
Et je l'aime beaucoup tel que tu l'écris. Tout ceci de mon point de vue.

i had never read Naruto at all before i saw your works. i read your stories and was totally enthralled with the way you managed to put me, the reader, inside their heads without making them totally marty stue or anything. i picked up the first manga after that...and kept reading.

your Naruto is exactly like the one i read in that manga. he has his soft points, his tough points, his fangs, his jokes. he's a wiggly kitsune with a grin that bores into your head and won't leave you alone. i love your Naruto.

Actually, I always thought you had one of the most IC Narutos (and all of the others) in the fandom. It's one of the reasons I admire you so much. Just because your Naruto has some sort of depth does not mean he is OOC. My opinion, anyway.

P.S. Do not change the Teamwork or the fangirls will cry. ;_;

My honest opinion is that your Naruto is a reasonable extrapolation of the character as he would be in a few years, given the circumstances that you've put him in and the story as it's presenting itself. I wouldn't worry about the "ooc" comments unless they give more specific feedback.

thank you. ^__^ that's reassuring actually. I know i've made him evolve a bit, but I was starting to doubt it was in a believable direction. XD

Ce sont tes fics et tes dessins qui m'ont amené à Naruto. Je n'ai probablement pas encore lu assez du manga pour me faire une opinion, mais je trouve que ton interprétation du personnage est originale. Je pense que c'est une interprétation possible, et même très crédible. Tu n'ignores pas son caractère impulsif et un peu gamin par moment, mais tu lui donnes quelque chose de plus. Et puis, je n'ai pas vraiment exploré le fandom, mais j'adore la manière dont tu écris Kyuubi. Je ne l'ai pas encore vu beaucoup dans le manga *n'en est qu'au volume 14*, mais j'aime toujours autant to Kyuubi.

Je pense que la situation que tu a créée dans team 7 est extrêmement fascinante, et originale. J'ai trouvé qu'en raison des circonstances, les personnages tentaient tant bien que mal de s'adapter et de faire avec et d'assumer les conséquences de leurs actes. Ce n'est pas facile, surtout quand ça concerne quelque chose d'aussi important qu'un bébé dans une équipe de ninjas actifs.

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Je devrais te laisser des commentaires plus souvent.

Dood, if these people are actually using canon anime and manga characterization right now, I'll have to say Sasuke is the most OOC of the bunch, but I don't think they're actually doing that. I can see a more grown up Naruto acting the way he does in your fic since we've seen hints of it in canon. I think I'm bias since Naruto is one of my favourite characters, I like goofy, silly, Naruto who thinks with more of his heart than his brain than the weepy-uke the other half of the fandom thinks he is.

There is not enough well written, relatively in character Naruto out there, don't change a thing.

I have to agree with everyone else who has commented so far. Factor in the lack of good, current, canon.. we really don't know what he's like now because we've seen so little of him. Sakura is the only one we have a good idea of anymore.

Sometimes I forget you're writing them all older in Teamwork, then Naruto acts all mature and I remember. On a psychological level, I think your take on Naruto is great. I only read up on psychology for fun, but Naruto is very believable. He's all bold when it's just interaction with one or the other of his teammates, but unsure and unwilling to get between them when he wasn't the one to initiate things.

Honestly, from what little we have seen of the fifteen(?) year old Naruto, I think you are as close to him as you are with Sakura. Can't say with Sasuke because we have not seen nor heard anything with him yet, but.. you should get the point. ^_^ When I read your works you let me believe it could happen. And that's really the greatest compliment I can offer. (For example, you don't forget the details. You don't waste twenty-seven pages describing all the flowers in Ino's shop, but you give enough hints our imagination can fill in where we want. That's nice. It is the main reason I love reading your writing so much.)

P.S. Oops. I was going somewhere with the whole Naruto interaction thing. Basically, you remember how he was raised - or not raised, really.. - and make sure we get reminders, too. That he would be unsure of his welcome when Sakura and Sasuke are sharing time is very believable. (There's that word again..) He just never had the socialization enough to let him know how to figure the not so obvious things out.

That's all. Really. I'm shutting up now. ^_^

As others stated above, either the people who wrote the comments used fangirl/boy logic (which is uber uke!Naruto) or they can't grasp the fact that Naruto would be mature once he grows up. Afterall, he had to learn how to live and all that stuff mostly by himself.

Besides, there are times in the manga and anime where Naruto displays insight and maturity way beyond his years. (ei. redemption of Neji and Gaara)

It would be OOC to have him canon-IC. If that makes sense. He's a few years older than in the series, and he's gotten Sasuke back, and he's matured...series Naruto shows great moments of stubborness and determination, but he's still somewhat imature. If he stayed like that when he was older, that's what wouldn't make sense.

I guess what counts is what character traits you think he grew into, and which he grew out of. Your Naruto seems to have grown out of flying off the handle half-cocked. But you'd expect that if he's matured. He's also picked up some sensitivity. Naruto in the series - and I really do love him, he's my fav right after Kakashi - isn't really all that bright intellectually or emotionally. Most of the Sasuke-runs-away thing blindsided him completely, while both Sakura and Kakashi saw it coming to some degrees.

If you really want me to stretch and try to put a finger on a place where he could be a bit OOC, I guess I'd say it's that he seems to be adapting a bit too easily to the 'teamwork' involved, or when he doesn't, he steps away, instead of trying for bravado or blundering in. As I said, not that emotionally/intellectually bright in the series, and also, he does tend to hide anything but his positive or aggressive feelings...Then again, maybe he feels well enough with his teammates to drop the bravado and the who-me-care mask, and show what's inside. Like when he gets a bit emotional in the series after Tsunade heals Sasuke from the Itachi-induced headache. It's very light, but it's there...Erm, I'm not helping am I...If they can't tell you WHY he's a bit OOC, I wouldn't worry about those reviews too much.

I think the emotional moment after Tsunade heals Sasuke is more than a bravado-dropping moment. His face when looking at Sakura embracing Sasuke...I got the feeling that, at that moment, he was happy for them, but felt superfluous himself. Of course, like you say, that's 1 moment, but it's possible that that type of feeling grew more as he matured--wanting to help his precious people, feeling cared for, but also feeling like he was "intruding" at more intimate times.

It's funny because I also feel like Teamwork!Naruto is somehow a little OOC (despite being one of the more kickass and IC fic!Narutos), but I can't really put my finger on a why either. I just figured it was unavoidable with a futurefic. ^^;; The really close Naruto-Kyuubi connection and bleedover someone else mentioned, is also little of it...

Maybe (for me) Naruto seems too confident of Sasuke and Sakura wanting to be with him--not just as a team mate to risk their lives for, but as someone to hang around with and care for in a domestic-ish sense, which seems a much bigger deal for him. The ninja-soldier bond I think Naruto's confident of, it's the having dinner together and not living alone and listening to him talk about his day that I think he's completely uncertain about. And his bravado about it flicks on and off because it's the area that he has the least experience with and he's not always even sure what to fake.

Basically, Teamwork Team 7 seems much closer than they ever were in canon, (well, duh, but) even not counting the smex. In the series it seems very much they go their separate ways at the end of a mission/session and don't socialize at all outside of "work." But, yeah, if they grow up (and if Sasuke gets dragged back) changes have to happen, so maybe it's just the of lack of transition or hints to one that can jar a little.

(wow I didn't mean to write that much...)

That has to be the funniest icon I've ever seen.

heh, most people don't even recognize Oscar.

I think your Naruto is IC, for his age. I haven't noticed any oddities or other quirks that make him OOC. So in my opinion other people are just janking your chain. Love your fics, btw.

#^__^# thank you!

Je sais pas si mon commentaire servira encore à quelque chose à l'heure qu'il est mais tant pis :p

Une accusation sans exemple, c'est rien du tout, que dalle, nada (pour moi en tout cas) Sur quoi se basent-ils pour dire qu'il est OOC ? Le Naruto du manga ? Il a 13 ans (enfin, dans ces eux-là, je sais plus ^^;) et le tien est déjà presque adulte. Qu'ils le veuillent ou non, on change en grandissant et même Naruto a le droit de murir un minimum (d'ailleurs, je pense qu'il est déjà très mûr dans le manga, vu tout ce qu'il a subi. Ses conneries au départ il les fait pour qu'on le remarque, pas parce qu'il aime ça)(au départ XD) Bref, ton Naruto est excellent et je comprends comment ta Sakura peut être amoureuse de lui (les qualités et les défauts que tu lui donnes font de lui un mec super en fait ^__^) alors que celui du manga me fait pas cet effet d'amant "protecteur" (bon, c'est l'effet qui me fait à moi ^^ à peu près)

Vala. ^____^

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