homestuck - My update feels

[askerian]

cause I know you guys care. Yep.

Of course it’s 99% about shipping. Shipping is what’s for dinner.

-f*** you Hussie for giving us a m/m pairing that was apparently sweet and loving LOL JUST KIDDING THE OTHER GUY SECRETLY WANTS TO BREAK UP AND GET WITH A GIRL oh no of course he says he doesn’t WANT to get with Damara, noooo, but he totes will anyway, I mean better the girl who’s working for the enemy than a GUY. okay Rufioh and Horuss don’t match at all, I agree XD and most of the ancestor pairings are dysfunctional in some way, but couldn’t Rufioh leave him for a guy??? blah.

-Damara is fucking awesome, the end. Whoa, the translation of what she says. Just, whoa. XD Hardcore. Also I totes ship her and Meenah spades now. Yesss.

-I can’t help but like any Zahhak<>Leijon paleship, and I was happy that apparently Eq and Nep have met their dancestors and impressed them with their sweet moirallegiance, but I’m kinda :( that apparently Horuss just got with sweet Meulin because it was transgressive and Equius had done it and why not, not because they matched. I bet Meulin drags him unwittingly into Makara’s web instead of him noticing and breaking that influence somehow, since so far he isn’t seeing Meulin as her own person.

-Aww Kanaya and Porrim talked about their duties and destiny and now Kanaya is CONFIDENT! (and not glowy, lmao that this seemed to bother rose so much. SELFISH, ROSE.) Yess Kanaya be badass and trusting in your ability to handle shit.

-... YES DAVE WHY WON’T YOU TOUCH KARKAT’S CHEEK GENTLY IN A TOTALLY PLATONIC AND NONWEIRD MANNER COME ON. (oh karkat. subconscious attraction? subconscious attraction.)

-...............!!!!! GAMZEE IS SITTING NEAR KARKAT’S SLEEPING BODY AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH he still cares. Diamonds everywhere! TT^TT
idk if he’s ever around when Karkat is AWAKE, mind, but what other reason would he have to chill there? Instead of lurking in the vents which is apparently usually prefers. Nope, palebro is asleep, imma sit beside him instead of anywhere else in the whole empty and safe meteor for absolutely no reason.

-Also I like that Rose is apparently aware of all his movements but doesn’t tell people about it. So secretive, Rose. But I guess maybe she knows what Gamzee is doing, and she doesn’t feel it’s something she has to stop? (yes please this would be such a good hint for the Gamzee Is Not Actually Evil theory. ROSE WOULD KNOW IF IT WERE OTHERWISE??? ;;___;; *hopes*)

-... whoa canon gamzee<3<terezi. whoa. ... YES PLZ. I MEAN. YES. OKAY. YES.
but why would karkat mind? That bit confused me for a minute, because I thought Karkat would be angry at Gamzee for hating/being hurtful to Terezi, but that’s a human response to platonic hate... hmm. if Karkat was merely flush for Terezi i dunno if he’d mind his moirail being pitch for her, since it wouldn’t overlap, but since Karkat is vacillating maybe it would feel like Gamzee is stealing the girl he knows his best bro wants, which is hurtful. Hmm. Maybe that’s it.
... Does Terezi know she and Gamzee are apparently quadranted? XD Maybe Gamzee thinks they’ve been flirting hardcore, idk. (nooo mutual established blackrom plz ;;)

- :/ okay so we got Davesprite/Jade... then a JUST KIDDING ITS OVER NOW, which I was okay with because I didn’t really ship it... then we’re getting a DAVE/TEREZI IS CANON... but probably not for long lol did you guys think karkat’s maturing and srs loev would go unrewarded for long. Poor Daves, man. Cool enough to get the girl, but too much of a secret dork to keep her, huh?

-I don’t even ship johndave and I still got LOL at when Rose was all "yes, plz, keep talking about how you can’t wait to see your own dream John this is not telling me way too many things about your subconscious crush at ALL my dear brother."

-I don’t especially like Terezi/Karkat, but I see a lot of endgame hints in recent updates, which make me emo because Dave/Terezi is so much FUN damn it! and I still don’t even know how Terezi and Karkat would work. and idk the dynamic doesn’t ping me.

Thankfully I also love DaveKat, so solution is obvious. Terezi is pimp enough to share, okay? Shut up Karkat, the answer is yes. But still, I dun want her to canonly dump Dave, that’d make shipping davekatrezi so much harder. ;__;

Comments

[laylah]

So much shipping in this last update. I love Rose being all "noep, busy tonight, has plans," and those plans are apparently "date with Kanaya." I love everything about how adorbs they are forever, pmuch.

...In general I am so glad we're getting to see more of playful teasing Rose, instead of having her stuck with Exposition Duty.

I'm also kind of heartbroken over Horuss already, because apparently that's my deal with the Sag boys. Mani was saying something on tumblr about how it looks like his tragic flaw is being the Page of Void, how that combination is just dysfunctional, and I totally see it. He keeps trying to hard to fill that emptiness with something, but it's not possible. :(

I'm also pretty eh on Horuss<>Meulin, mostly because it looks like such a clear case of that happening. They didn't have any kind of actual history together; he just saw that Equius had done it and tried it to see if that would be what he was looking for. sadness. ;;

I used to not care for Terezi/Karkat at all, really, but these most recent updates have made it feel a lot more viable to me. Just...especially when he was talking to her about her insecurities over Latula. Two-years-on-the-meteor Karkat is a much better catch than one-year-on-the-meteor Karkat! And I really love that he's gotten to a point of "I'm not saying this to try to get you back, I just want you to know that you're awesome, because you are." mmadfjkhdf.

...I'm gunning for Meenah/Karkat, though, holy carp.

In conclusion WHERE IS SOLLUX, HUSSIE. HE WAS ONLY HALF-DEAD.

[askerian]

I keep thinking i have to replay this because I missed that you could take Damara and go back to earlier parts of the scenery and talk to Terezi and Latula, for example! (AND THEY WOULD THREATEN TO FUCKING KILL YOU ohgod latula i love you) SO SAD. I need a walkthrough with every single hidden thing ever. :(

I didn't miss Rose saying she had other plans but was it explicit they were with Kanaya? I kinda interpreted the bits of pep talk from Porrim we overheard as GO GET YOUR GIRL but hrrm. this is still way too coy. ONSCREEN EXPLICIT CONFIRMATION PLZ?

I love how playful and teasing Rose has been, so CUTE.

Horuss needs fixit fic where he gets everything. and yeah wow, page of void, talk about a bad combo. :/

Karkat's feelings for Terezi maturing means I find his side of the thing cuter, but I still cannot ship. Can support in canon but cannot write or get excited about it. I don't know what Terezi sees in him or what their dynamic would be like! :( Apart from a pseudo-"above quadrants" thing that would basically be human romance AND cut all other potential quadrant-fills out NO YOU HAVE GAMZEE ALREADY also dave for black yes okay shush TEREZI CAN MAKE DO WITH FLUSH.

Meenah/Karkat is hilariously adorable.

[laylah]

It's explicit that Rose's plans are with Kanaya if you go back and talk to Kanaya as Rose -- then she's like, "so are you busy later? do you want to hang out? let's go hang out tonight." along with other adorable stuff about how she wants to be there for Kanaya and help her with her project. ;3;

And yessss, Rose flirting with all the ladies! It is the cutest. All of her little sly faces.

So agreed on "augh let's not have any of this 'above quadrants' stuff as an excuse to skip complication" because REALLY. This is a society that has explicit rules and expectations for maintaining a poly network, can we please not just dump that in favor of prizing human monogamy?

I don't terribly know what Terezi would want from Karkat either, but tbh I have never been able to get a handle on Terezi terribly well. I...might need to go re-read the convo where she met Aranea, because that might help me start to get a better feel for her headspace. Her persona always kind of kept me at a weird distance. XD

...I do think that Terezi and Latula's identical threats are a shiptease for Terezi<3Karkat specifically, since Latula is making the threat to protect her unconscious matesprit. But it is always so hard to tell when Hussie's repetition kinks are being played straight and when they're going to shift sideways.

Still want "Meenah and Karkat's Excellent Adventure" tho. good god.

In the Horuss-needs-nice-things category, I want to see him interact with Roxy. She's got the class of someone really important to him (Rogue) but she shares his aspect, and that seems like it could lead to interesting things. Maybe dealing with her could help him find some other way to deal with his emptiness issues? This is unreasonably optimistic of me, I think. It seems much more likely that he will just not matter and Roxy will handle all the important Void-related stuff.

ENDLESS FEELS.

[mitsuhachi]

All my feels boil down to D: D:D: why so awful to Zahhak all the time, hussy? I mean, I kind of don't mind that they want to break up? I mean, they've been together a long time and it was important to both of them, its not like hussy's trying to make it like that didn't happen, it's a major part of the update, and plenty of m/f ships break up too. But just. Poor Horuss. :( They need to hit the new session stat. He and Equius and Dirk can have robotic jams and also sloppy threeway makeouts. (The robot head thing! asd;glghsd DAW.)

Gamzee spades terezi makes no sense to me. Like. Uh. Did they even talk? Like, p. much ever? :/ I mean, I can see where it could be cool if it was developed, but I don't see the dynamic yet. Though, yes. Gamzee guarding sleeping!Karkat is epic adorbs. <>

Also, UNNNF porrim/kanaya/rose. Win at everything. I'll just be over here chinhanding.

[laylah]

this is how I figure Gamzee♠Terezi works. It is epic philosophical differences and that's made from magic. :d

[askerian]

i remember that one. mmmmm. *_*

*reads over anyway. mmmmmmmm.*

[askerian]

Poor Zahhaks, huh. ;_; they need to hang out and build robots and stuff. Maybe with Dirk, yus. that is a good plan i approve of this plan. Dirk'd have all the horsecock he can handle, wooha.

Gamzee/Terezi makes sense to me mostly because i've been reading fic for it! XD No canon interaction really but the dynamic is hella fun. she'd blaspheme about his beliefs/ lol at how silly he must have been to buy it in the first place, and be pissed re: his betrayals/murders, and he'd be really irritated at being held to the same laws as hemoinferiors. XD

[mitsuhachi]

Yeah, L's fic sold me on the idea pretty fast, I have to admit! :D It helps that I like gamzee and terezi so much individually anyway.

[laylah]

Also, when he was setting up Terezi's confrontation with Vriska, leaving her all those clues and bodies and stuff? I totally read that as sober!Gamzee's idea of flirting. (chica likes murderdrama? I CAN MOTHERFUCKING DO THAT.) They're not sharing much screen time for that bit, but I think it totally counts as meaningful interaction.

...I am definitely in the "Gamzee's actions are never random" camp ("the most important character in Homestuck," the narration told us, after all). ^^;

[red-volpe.livejournal.com]

When ships are in peril, throw the canon overboard! xD
That seems to be the general consensus anyway.
I just loved the Gamkat here, loved it with all of my diamonds. <> As for a Gamzee's been a good guy all along! theory, I've actually seen a really really good one, if you want the link. :3
I didn't really like Horuss getting with Meulin, mainly because, like you said, he only seemed to do it because, lol why not it worked for them!
Also, that part about hiding your emotions, etc, was just like, ;-; Meulin, I feel so bad for you now.

[(Anonymous)]

If you've still got that link, I'd be interested in seeing it! :)
(i'm unsure of lj etiquette about anon comments on other people's journals so maybe i'm being really rude here but dont realise it?? srry)

[askerian]

It actually depends on the journal owner! Personally I'm just fine with discussions so long as they're still at least roughly on topic. in this case it's still fitting well in the topic of the conversation since you're just asking her to develop stuff she mentioned in the first place.

[red-volpe.livejournal.com]

Here it is! It's kind of long, but well worth it.
Oh, and it's horribly spoiler-y if you aren't completely caught up.
http://lildurandal.tumblr.com/post/33949050755/the-knight-of-blood-and-the-bard-of-rage

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you, that was a pretty interesting read. :D
and thanks for your explanation, asuka, I'll keep that in mind if i interact with lj in the future. :)

[askerian]

XD ♥

i think i read that theory already. s'okay anyway, i might be in denial but i have my own "noooo gamzee is not evil he's just faking it." i'm putting it as instinct. it worked with snape! it wasn't because i liked him too much so he couldn't be evil! nope. not at all.

yeah, poor meulin, she really got a raw deal. ;____;