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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2007-10-13 02:21 pm
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Characterization ponderings...

What are Sakura's trauma buttons? Apart from being left behind by her teammates because she's weak.

Like the thought of seeing his students killed, or if Naruto was bowled over by Kyuubi and started rampaging, they would probably be big ones for Iruka. Sasuke's trauma button is Itachi and anything Itachi-related, Naruto would probably take being despised and/or abandoned by his precious people very badly... What would freak Sakura out?


edit: Okay, looks like we've got a consensus here: not being able to be useful/strong/DO things to change the course of an event/be a passive spectator/be useless/be reminded of how useless/powerless she was and see that she really hasn't changed at all since then... More specifically, seeing her teammates/friends get hurt and not being able to save/heal them.

And then there's this very nice suggestion about her overthinking things and not trusting her instincts, and as a result she's not fast enough. *__*

... All of this is very shiny, but what do I do with it. Hmm. hmm hmm hmm. PONDERING TIME.

Thank you very much, everyone. ^____^

[identity profile] valles-uf.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 01:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm... Isolation, not being noticed, not being worth notice - that being the core, to my mind, of the whole weakness issue...

Think about that lonely little girl that Ino found, and realize that Sakura remembers, is a little contemptuous of, and is absolutely, though she probably doesn't realize it, terrified of becoming again.
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[identity profile] kyutaru.livejournal.com 2007-10-14 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
This.

Sakura has already freaked out in the story whenever something happened to her boys. She may react like Orihime, fearing anything that can happen to her friends and being unable to prevent it. Tsunade desperately tried to revive her boys, but failed. Sakura doesn't want to fail; she's deathly afraid of doing so.

[identity profile] tekku-karii.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
What first comes to my mind is that genjutsu Kakashi cast on her during their first bell test. She fell to the ground screaming and then promptly passed out at seeing Sasuke covered in blood and pointy things. She also had a similar reaction during Sasuke's porcupine stage in the Zabuza Arc.

Now that she's a more experienced ninja, and also a medical ninja, things like that probably won't get her all traumatized, 'cause she can recognize genjutsu and if Sasuke or Naruto get porcupine'd, she can fix it better.

What -might- get her really screwed up in the head is seeing her parents be murdered by Sasuke/Ino/Naruto/Kakashi/etc or the other way around. But how to do that in a genjutsu she won't recognize? It would have to be Itachi, but I don't know where Sakura is in your scenario, so Itachi may not be an option.

If this is Teamwork universe, you could also have something to do with a miscarriage (probably a nightmare or genjutsu).

And I'm pretty sure Orochi-freak could be a trigger, maybe genjutsu/nightmare of him biting Naruto/Ino/Kakashi/Sasukeagain/etc.

Or having her chakra busted up, and losing a life when she in normal circumstances could have saved the person.

I hope I helped, and I'm sure you'll think of something that works.

-Thekk

[identity profile] aelinasongmaker.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 02:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I thought of Kakashi's genjutsu too, but I think her trauma button is something along the lines of one of her boys getting really badly hurt. The fourth movie's been hinting that happens, and Sakura screams like a banshee. I think if one of them were to be hurt too badly for her to fix, it would set her off. That could mean physically or psychologically. Anyways, that's just my thought.

(Anonymous) 2007-10-14 03:43 am (UTC)(link)
That girl screaming in the preview isn't Naruto, it's the new silver-haired chick.

[identity profile] strikeredkite.livejournal.com 2007-10-15 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
I should hope the girl screaming isn't Naruto, that'd be weird.

^^

[identity profile] hiza-chan.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Not being able to save someone, especially if it's Naruto or Sasuke. Now that she's a medic nin she can heal people. But if injured enough, it's near impossible to do that.

I think that if it's in the teamwork universe it would still be the loss of either Sasuke or Naruto. Not just seeing them injured, but actually WATCHING THEM DIE AND HER NOT BEING ABLE TO DO A DAMN THING. So ya, I'd contribute more but I'm in a hurry.

[identity profile] mandy347.livejournal.com 2007-10-15 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
...or watching them die as she does everything she can think of, and it's still not enough. Yeah, I think just about everyone is saying the same thing: letting down her boys, her boys getting hurt or worse. Lesser trauma may include reverting to her weaker self or being seen as useless.

[identity profile] iniq.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 04:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I think having her butt spread over an icon would be pretty traumatizing for her to find out... XP


[identity profile] azartti.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 05:12 pm (UTC)(link)
History repeats itself... so I think the biggest trauma for Sakura would be not being able to save/heal her precious people, just like Tsunade freaked out when she couldn't save her brother and Dan.
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[personal profile] edenfalling 2007-10-13 05:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Random thought: we know next to nothing about Sakura's family. What if her ninja life impinged upon them? She'd probably feel horrifically guilty, at the very least, and it would get at her insecurity issues as well -- she wasn't good enough to protect them, or some such.
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[identity profile] stripedpetunia.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Going with the trend of comments, if someone got hurt in a way she couldn't fix she would panic/freak out. Also, if we're talking bad-dream or genjutsu kinds of things, I think if she (was convinced that she) lost all the strength/knowledge she's acquired (and fought to acquire), she might snap, because she definitely doesn't ever want to be the Sakura she used to be.

what if her forehead got REALLY big....

[identity profile] nothri.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmmm.....

She used to have drama if she thought she was looking bad or weak or unprofessional. She was trying to serve two masters- she was trying to be a shinobi and a 11 year old girl with 11 year old girl dreams. Looking bad in the eyes of Sasuke was the primary fear, but what it all comes down to was that she was afraid she would never bloom and always be the weak little girl Ino had to coddle. The whole Inner and Outer Sakura thing was sort of a reflection of her trying to be strict and professional know-it-all while having a wilder heart.

She's gotten past that, I think, post-time skip. Now her big issues seem to revolve around her teammates. She gets uppity if someone is mean to them (she can still be mean and violent with them, but like Lee back in the day she'll rise to defend them if someone else is beating on them unfairly). Of greater concern is the mistakes she's made in the past. She's trying to get stronger, as is everyone, but she still seems haunted by old guilts and weaknesses. She wasn't strong enough to get Sasuke back, even though she was the first to encounter him. That weakness caused her to ask for Naruto's help in getting him back, binding him into an agreement he's nearly died trying to complete. She doesn't want anyone to be hurt on her watch, that's for certain. But more than that, she doesn't want anyone to be hurt because of her. Be it because she was too weak to protect them when they needed it, or because she made a mistake in the past that's making other people suffer. Look at the way Kabuto (who is first introduced with a set of ninja cards with collected profiles and every ninja in leaf and beyond, and seems to have some rather analytical theories about people's psychology (such as Naruto)) provokes Sakura into getting in Kyuubied Naruto's way by noting how much he has sacrificed just to fulfill his promise. Sakura still wants to get Sasuke back, but she also doesn't want Naruto to be hurt because of her.

[identity profile] tricia1224.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 06:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I will have to go with everyone else on what would really freak Sakura out. Something happening to someone she cares about and her not being able to save them. Especially her team, Tsunade.

[identity profile] togu.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Ino saying Sakura's got stretch marks XD
Probably not being able to save someone she cares about...
teamwork: hearing some rude remarks about how she'll be a horrible mother:S

[identity profile] phlegmaticphrog.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
See, the problem with Sakura-trauma is that she's built herself on a very strong foundation. Really, if you want to get into metaphors, Naruto's structure is strong, but the foundation is prone to mudslides lol. That's a big difference. If you really want something that would freak her character out you'd need something that'll rip that strong foundation right out from underneath her.

Ultimately, it depends on which universe your writing for. In cannon, maybe if they were super close to getting Sasuke back and then at the last second something happened and she had choose between getting Sasuke back or helping Naruto and didn't really manage either. Like say, she went for Sasuke and it didn't work out and Naruto got hurt in the process (jesus, I'm writing my own fic here ><;;)

In the teamwork verse, well, Teamwork Sakura is really your baby. But, the most subtle thing I can think of is maybe postpartum depression. Half the time there's barely even a good reason for that, it just comes out of no where. In teamwork she's a really young mother, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch.

[identity profile] sayaka-sama.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
If this were canon!Sakura, I'd say draw from similarities from Tsunade, seeing how she was hemophobic in her pre-Hokage days. But I'd think it'd be too rushed if Sakura started showing that degree of similarity with her master this early in Teamwork.

Also, in one episode she was scared of frogs. But that was filler. And even if it was true, it's rather silly anyway. XP

Hmm. I, for one, think Sakura is a firm believer in second chances, elseways she would've given up on Sasuke ages ago, both in canon and in Teamwork. Maybe, she'd be set off by things that are set in stone, irreversable... perhaps a fear of pre-conceived destiny? UGH, BUT THAT SOUNDS TOO VAGUE AND UNREALISTIC.

DAMNIT SAKURA. STOP BEING SO LEVEL-HEADED ALL THE TIME. DX

[identity profile] crazy-toffee.livejournal.com 2007-10-13 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with most of the other comments. Sakura would probably freak if Sasuke or Naruto were hurt beyond her ability to heal them; or if someone - Sasuke or Naruto, if we're going extreme here - were to tell her she is as unnecessary as she fears she is.

[identity profile] alienyak.livejournal.com 2007-10-14 02:25 am (UTC)(link)
In the first half, Sakura was worried about Sasuke's cursed seal all the way through the Chuunin arc. We also see post-timeskip Sakura run mindlessly at four tails Naruto. But that could just be the losing them thing, and if this is for Teamwork specifically those probably won't work.

[identity profile] innanaalien.livejournal.com 2007-10-14 04:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm. That is a very good thing. Sakura is a pretty well built up character, hmm? Kishimoto built her up pretty damn well as in her trauma buttons. This is a tough question.

I think everyone's fear is having their companions die/get injured and not being able to do so. Like, Naruto would go insane if he couldn't do anything and Sakura kept getting injured, right? I think she just doesn't want to feel like a burden, or not being able to do anything. Hanging back and being the medic the whole way would irritate her to no end, but I can't see trauma. She's a pretty well built up character, and using the "OMGMYBOISAREGOINGTODIENOTHINGTODO!!!!!!" every single time does get a little cliched. (I'll wrote more when I come back from the book store)

[identity profile] j-ecrirai.livejournal.com 2007-10-14 05:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The boys deciding they don't need her in their relationship. Especially if Sasuke decided it. She still has issues believing he's really committed to her, as he has a hard time opening up to her. If she thought they were only humouring her because they accidentally got her pregnant and now felt all responsible and guilty I think she'd run. She'd be so upset and humiliated she'd run. Throw in a few slips where they think/treat her like dead weight and I think she'll freak, and let her fears that being pregnant is going to ruin her 'ninja' development overtake her reason. I don't think you've really delt with this yet in the story. You did mention this as one of the monkeys Sakura had to spank to over her wimpy self.

[identity profile] oxbonkus.livejournal.com 2007-10-14 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with Ecrirai.

Another thing--perhaps dealing with criticism and crap from the villagers? They've never exactly shown themselves to be accepting of anything out side of their norm. Sasuke and Naruto have had to deal with that sort of stuff before, in one way or another, and can deal because they've never put much stock in the opinions of those they don't care about. But Sakura's always kinda worried about what the collective 'they' thought. It could be argued that she caught crap from her mom in the past, but I got the feeling that she's never gotten into an argument with the woman on anything important and not backed down or conceded.

Of course, it would be even worse if those she thought were friends turned on her, but I can't see that happening too much.

If she dealt with the village trying to mob her for bearing demon-seed, and then came home to Naruto and Sasuke messing around, I think she'd break. Especially if Naruto asked if they should wait for Sakura and Sasuke replied, 'Hn. No waiting,' and went back to doing naughty-fun-stuff to Naruto, who just shrugged and went with it.

[identity profile] oxbonkus.livejournal.com 2007-10-15 06:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Glad I could help! <3

And yeah, not exactly trauma, but it could wear her down to the point where something that wouldn't set her off under normal circumstances would hit the trauma button. Sakura's always seemed to me to be someone who gets stuck on the little things and sweats the small stuff.

People are right, she's got a solid foundation, so it's kinda hard to make her crumble. Plus, she grew up fairly well-adjusted, with nothing really horrible happening to her until after she got her team. Well, the bullying, but I don't really see how that would mess with her, except as the village messing with her, which I already said. She sees someone getting bullied and stands up for them, only to get ridiculed? I don't see how that would work, though.

*nods*

[identity profile] mommyr.livejournal.com 2007-10-15 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I agree, general consensus about Sakura not being strong enough to save her boys when they needed her most. But, one other

Motherhood.

You think you'll be ready, but you never are. I had the most horrible dreams of ruining my kid by being a sucky mom . . . and dreams of child bursting out of my stomach like the "Aliens" monster (NOT a movie you watch while pregnant. EVAR.) And you can think you're prepared to face the 'advice' offered by those in the know, but sometimes it just hurts, or undermines your confidence. (poor Sakura)

um.

[identity profile] cadnoes.livejournal.com 2007-10-15 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
*de-lurks and cringes in the sunlight*
Er, I am not super up-to-date in Naruto, but it occurs to me that Sakura thinks alot. She - deliberates? Hesitates. She has gut feelings, but she doesn't always trust them. Though perhaps that's more the domain of pre-time-skip Sakura.
However, probably not so much in the not-so-life-threatening situations. missed opportunities and all that.
So, a single instance of hesitation could really mess her up. Especially one with totally unforseen circumstances. It doesn't have to be her boys who get hurt, either. It could be anybody, though preferentially someone innocent and defenseless. She's also got some crazy strong morals for a ninja, in some ways more so than Sasuke and Naruto (in regards to 'laws,' 'spirit vs. letter' and esp. 'order'), and they could cause a bit of a knee jerk reaction that she tries to logic her way around.
I dunno, I can imagine Sakura attempting to figure out the logical, responsible, moral response to a situation and just - running out of time. Misjudging a situation or a person and having the results spin out of control. And that could happen to anybody, but I think it'd hit Sakura really hard. Nighmare's and stuff, but she also wouldn't trust herself in any situation, which could lead to it happening again, which would lead to a cycle that someone would have to snap her out of, be it an enemy or a friend.
Meh.
That probably doesn't make much sense, but it's...
*looks at all she's written*
*posts, quickly, before she can delete it and sign out*

Re: um.

(Anonymous) 2007-10-15 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
*flees*

Re: um.

[identity profile] cadnoes.livejournal.com 2007-10-15 06:10 pm (UTC)(link)
*peeks*
It's good? Oh, wow. So glad I didn't sound like a *complete idiot.*
... though I, uh, *do* have a rather complete idea. What I was imagining while I wrote that. Would you like me to email it to you?
*hoards hearts and returns to burrow*

[identity profile] venia.livejournal.com 2007-10-15 04:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I know something which makes Sakura shake in fear and act impulsively/irrationaly (jump in battle without thinking of consequences) just to avoid having to see it...
Hospital roof, anyone?XD
She can't stand the thought of it. It was enough of a nightmare for her, except that it was happening for real. What she fears is see her two boys trying to kill *each other*. (it could happen without being an illusion if they smelled something-unknown gass?- that made them want to fight, for example)

Like other people said, standing there and not being able to stop them or do anything (because she is frozen or they don't listen anyway) would be a hell of a trauma for her, she would fall psychologically -- it combines her uselessness and their getting hurt.

In the forest of death she promised herself to protect them both. That's why she will use whatever power she has to protect them from external enemies. But from themselves, that's something she can't control (And also something coming from her real past, unlike the death of one of her patients -- Tsunade may have experienced this as a trauma, Sakura not yet).


*~Other fears (not TEH TRAUMA, just potential X3)

-Orochimaru coming back to life to take/bite Sasuke again, or worse, turn him against Naruto (just to connect to what previously said XD)

-The unconscious fear of harming her baby -- every mother has it [like, getting hit in the belly and giving birth to a deformed child]

-(for Sakura in manga, only) Naruto killing himself by going Kyuubi.

(Anonymous) 2007-10-15 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
her two boys trying to kill *each other*.

most of all, how do you stop them? she is not strong enough and even if she was, she could not hurt /them/. it's a dead way out

(Anonymous) 2007-10-16 04:53 pm (UTC)(link)
... But it's not going to happen in Teamwork. T_T For another fic, maybe...

Well, it wouldn't *have* to happen, but it could just look like it. The boys get into an arguement about this, that, the other thing and make it physical. No big deal for them, they like fighting. Sakura's had a bad day dealing with what the other reviewers were mentioning, dealing with The Mob, hearing bad comment's about what kind of Mom she'll be, living with TWO men and all, feeling the baby move and *GASP!*, she's really having a BABY! An entirly new PERSON! She needs stability, she needs her boys for, she needs Naruto to cuddle and Sasuke to logically take apart her fears. But she comes home and they're fighting! And one or the other get's in that lucky blow that really *hurts* even if they weren't really meaning to hurt.
Does that work out for you or give you ideas, or should I just go back to my hole and stfu?
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