askerian: Serious Karkat in a red long-sleeved shirt (Iruka_NOES)
askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2006-03-23 10:40 pm

naruto zomgwhat rant/spazzing out, again

I apologize for the spamming of people's frienslist, but I swear this is the last post today.



[livejournal.com profile] askerian: oh. god. ew
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: a romantic sasuke/orochimaru pairing
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: wtf?
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: nonononono
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: ewwwwwwwwwww
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: romantic wtf that pairing would so fucking be "if you were a civilian this would be illegal", "whatever. gimme a new jutsu."
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: haha XD

... okay no actually that wasn't what I wanted to tell you people about. ^___^;;;;;

(and to save that poor girl's bandwidth, go to the mangahelpers.com forum and download the raw? XD)

[livejournal.com profile] askerian: http://shadhahvar.livejournal.com/6163.html
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: did you read that?
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: it's a parody of the latest chapter -- whatever. just look at sai's drawings and tell me what it tells you
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: DRAGON BALL OMG
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: XD
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: okay so read it once and then come back to the drawings
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: They suck. Or are woodcut prints instead of drawings.
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: no, i mean
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: what's on them
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: i got a ZOMG WHAT moment when i... got it. except i'm hoping i'm reading it wrong
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: WHAT IS THEIR MEANING
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: Dude, he beats each one and gets their weapons, for one thing.
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: and their clothes
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: ... their identities?
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: and their fighting stance
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: sharingan
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOES
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: ... oh fuck no
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: SAI IS NOT AN UCHIHA
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: i just hope it means he's so empty he needs to steal people's identities to build his own
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: but
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: If Kishimoto made Sai a bastard Uchiha, or a kid with sharingan implants... ohhhhhh fuck, didn't Itachi say something about a third person who could do Mangekyou?
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMIT DAMMMIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTT
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: I will barf if this comes true.
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: It makes no SENSE.
[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: Itachi killed all the Uchiha! Except Sasuke. Where the fuck would Sai fit in?
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: YES EXACTLY.
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: SO THERE. SHUT UP, BRAIN.

[livejournal.com profile] joisbishmyoga: Sai: I am a Stu. I knew Mangekyou before I met Itachi, and taught him how to control Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu, and that another Mangekyou Uchiha could break the Tsukiyomi, because that much wasn't in the scrolls and training's better in reality anyway.
Did I mention that, since I'm Sasuke's age, there was considerable shota molestation going on? It was my idea, of course... as a Stu, I got all horny-bastard-uke by the time I was ten and decided my student Itachi was hot enough to be my seme.
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: *giggle*




DISCUSS. and prove me wrong oh god please prove me wrong.

[identity profile] windandwater.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, there's the popular theory that Sai is actually Shisui's younger brother.

... now it will be a battle between Sasuke and Sai over who kills Itachi first!
ext_107527: (Reno Advent Children FFVII)

[identity profile] shiny-glor-chan.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Itachi said three people. Two already have it, Itachi and Kakashi. Itachi said Sasuke had the potential to have and that's why he's a alive. Sasuke would/should/could be the last Mangekyou Sharingan user; therefore, Sai could not have Sharingan then Itachi would be wrong and that'll never happen. Unless it does and then well, no. Did I prove you wrong enough?

[identity profile] melhime.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I've reread the chapter again. Dammit, I dunno what to think! O_o

*brain goes 'splodey' all over your comment page*

[identity profile] windandwater.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
^^;; I still don't think Itachi meant that KAKASHI was the one with the ability to have the Mangekyou. Afterall, Kakashi doesn't have the full Sharingan in both eyes and he's not of Uchiha blood. And Kakashi's Mangekyou is very different from Itachi's.

Also, I'm a little fuzzy, but I think Itachi was actually surprised to see Kakashi with a more developed Sharingan when they fought in the Gaara Arc.
ext_49: (Sasuke - called up a storm)

[identity profile] kylara.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:13 pm (UTC)(link)
>> he's so empty he needs to steal people's identities to build his own

That's clever, I like that.

I don't care for the idea that Sai's an Uchiha, and I think Itachi was referring to Kakashi in that statement anyway. Itachi said that three people would be capable of handling mangekyou, including Sasuke -- "would be," "capable," those are the keywords I pull, since it means that the third person didn't necessarily have the mangekyou at the time it was spoken and wouldn't necessarily ever have it.

[identity profile] nacchi-camui.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmh..a moins que j'ai mal compris, Sai dessine son grand frère blond, non ? Donc....à moins que..y'a des Uchiha blonds? XD

(et ha ha, moi je suis allée jusqu'à penser que son grand frère était Yondy et que c'était pour ça qu'il aimait pas franchement Naruto >__> mon cerveau est donc pire que le tien :D)

[identity profile] chrismakkuh.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, with Kakashi's MS, we don't know how true it is to the blood line. He's not a true Uchiha by blood, so there's a possibility that it's just a unique version.

We know Itachi has MS. Sasuke should be able to develop MS, the third, I think Shisui is still alive.

Does the manga say that a body was found? All I remember is a note, but I don't remember the finding of the body.

If it's not Shisui, it's another Uchiha. I mean, does anyone think it's truely possible to kill a whole clan in a 24 hr. time period. (I say 24, b/c Wehn Sasuke returned from school, Itachi was finishing up the parentals. We don't know whne Itachi started... so, time is iffy...)


But that was just a ramble, and probably made no sense, and I apologize... :(

[identity profile] chrismakkuh.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, (i'm so sorry for the double post) I don't think Shisui is Sai's brother. If the pic of the little boy on the cover of the book is any indication of the look of the brother, then there's no possibly way that he's an Uchiha.

Is black hair/eyes a pre-dominate characteristic of the Uchiha? All the Uchica seen have the two defining characteristics, where as the little boy on the cover looks about, if not maybe a few yeras older than Sai. Plus, the little boy clearly has a lighter shade of hair.

I have a strong feeling that it's either a character that shall be introduced soon, or considering his past (or lack there of...) Kabuto.

[identity profile] lazynin.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Theres only one Uchiha that was known to have white hair (Yashiro (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uchiha_Clan#Uchiha_Yashiro)).

(Hyah, sorry for my randomness, but I drop by at the most pointless times~)

[identity profile] chrismakkuh.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
He was super old though...


But, does he have children? (I know this has no answer... but... damn the Uchiha and the crazy that's bred)

[identity profile] lazynin.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Gyaah, no clue. If he did, Itachi probably killed them anyway.

Wikipedia is the best source for the characters (in my opinion) and theres nothing so far.

Hmm... wonder what they've got on Sai.

...absolutely NOTHING that we didnt already know. Gah, they need to learn to hack into Kishimoto-sensei's brain or something. :3

[identity profile] crazy-toffee.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Hmm... actually, if Sai IS an Uchiha... I'll feel vindicated. ^^U I had this long argument with my bf on the matter of the 'third magenkyou user'. My bf insisted it was Kakashi, but I really don't think Itachi referred to him. I'm not even sure Kakashi HAD the magenkyou at the time Itachi mentioned there was someone else who had that power (aside from Sasuke, in potential)

O_O Though... it would be strange.

[identity profile] rainbowlasers.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
... I am the only person on earth who thought when Itachi talked about three people with the mangekyou sharingan, he meant the one who got it before and wrote all about it, didn't I?

Har har har. Har. ... Sai can't be an Uchiha, because I can't see the Uchiha going all "Here, have one of our own" to ROOTS, who was basically against the leader of Konoha at the time and against the ANBU? No? Ha. And if Itachi was bored enough to kill every single Uchiha, including the one's on a mission, then he wouldn't have just skipped the "kid we just gave away", no?

And really. The way bloodlines work -- The Uchiha, gave up a possible sharingan-user? Ha. Hah. No. :D

[identity profile] chrismakkuh.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, here's the thing. Everyone assumes that Itachi is refering to Kakashi.

But if he is... how exactly does Itachi know, anyways?

Wouldn't think imply that Kakashi had it prior to the Rescue Gaara Arc?

Or is Itachi stalking Kakashi?














Maybe... *cues creepy music* Kakashi is the Leader of the Akatsuki!! O_O *dies*

[identity profile] chrismakkuh.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
By the way, how's work going?

[identity profile] windandwater.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
They found Shisui's body drowned in a river. He's very definitely dead. ^^;;

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Kakashi's got the third mangekyou.

[identity profile] malika.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
*blinks* wasn't Itachi surprised by Kakashi's mangekyou? Or did he even see it? My manga rememberance is iffy...

...but honestly, I think Sai as an Uchiha would be pretty funny XDD

[identity profile] rainbowlasers.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ha. Wait. The whole why I believed that Itachi was talking about someone dead -- well, the way he said it to Sasuke ...
"When you do obtain it, it will mean that there will be three people, including me, who have learned this technique"

Approximatively that, but anyway -- It always seemed to me as though he was talking in the past. Three people in the whole history of the Uchiha clan, like.

But then again, I'm the only one who thought that, so. Haha. Hum.

[identity profile] windandwater.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
But it looks nothing like Itachi's Mangekyou, which I assume is the "Uchiha Mangekyou." To be able to use all the abilities of the Sharingan effectively (which would include the Mangekyou abilities), you have to be an Uchiha. That's why it's a bloodline limit. While Kakashi can use his Sharingan and his version of the Mangekyou, it very obviously takes a lot out of him, to a far higher degree that what happens to Itachi and Sasuke, who can use Sharingan naturally.

So, while Kakashi has a Mangekyou, that doesn't necessarily mean it's the Mangekyou that Itachi was referencing.

[identity profile] a-white-rain.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Possibly. But it's a point AGAINST Sai = Uchiha.

Me, i think Kakashi's is a 'good' one while Itachi's ia an 'evil' one.

[identity profile] typecast.livejournal.com 2006-03-23 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, I totally didn't think of that. o_o

I was thinking that Sai must be like, some sort of evil-soulsucking monster that eats people and steals their abilities. Kind of like Kirby in Super Smash Bros. XDDD

[identity profile] complexphoenix.livejournal.com 2006-03-24 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
huhuhu >:D ItaKaka is such an awesome crack pairing.

[identity profile] complexphoenix.livejournal.com 2006-03-24 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on the translation. Mine said there will be three people who can handle it, or three people who have it, or something like that.

[identity profile] chrismakkuh.livejournal.com 2006-03-24 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think Itachi has seen Kakashi use MS...

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