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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2005-12-05 12:49 am

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(just in case, Avatar rocks. Zukoooo, marry me. *so not imagining naruto crossovers, nope*)

So I managed to download all the eps I was missing. except ep fifteen. All the torrents I found of that one were ded ded ded. Bato of the water tribe? (haha, funny name. except a bit lame too. bateau = boat. ahaha, humor. *groans*) if anyone has it and can send it to me through yousendit or AIM or however they can, I'll love them forever and ever and ever. I can't watch the rest if I haven't seen this one yet. T_T

Also, i'm really morbidly curious about the dubbed Naruto eps. Anyone has one or knows where to find one? ;_;

Kin, si tu veux les épisodes, je peux essayer de te les envoyer par AIM ^___^;; (ou je te trouve le lien pour les torrents, si ca t'intéresse)

And now, I sleep.

[identity profile] rianax.livejournal.com 2005-12-05 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Aang is the last airbender in the sense that he is the last surviving trained airbender from the dominant culture of the air nomands. The Fire Nation pulled a Tibet where most of the cultural centers, monuments, knowledge, and educated folk were wiped from the face of the map-- thus destorying the Airbending culture not the airbenders per say. Aang was raised among a bunch of monks so unless they had little airbenders from cabbage patches they had to get the kids from the general population.

There are still airbenders, but there is no one and nowhere to teach them and train them. And especially after a century of brutal subjectation and genocide, any ability to airbend is NOT going to be encouraged to say the least.

Aang is going to have to pull a Luke Skywalker and rebuild the Airbenders since he the last living embondiment of the Airbender knowledge.

And the show pretty much states out flat only the Avatar can master more than one Bending, any offspring have to deal with plain old genetics and geography.

[identity profile] nemi-chan.livejournal.com 2005-12-06 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Aang lived with Monks, you know, males. And we know for a fact that there was more than one airbender temple, perhaps some of them were...well nunneries.

Also, with the subjugation of other tribes people still manage to find benders, even with no one to teach or train them. It's very likely, then that benders bend on accident when they are young. Airbenders would be more obvious I think, baby sneezes and there's a gust of wind or somesuch.

Since bending goes on genetic lines, it's likely not just the bender would be killed, but also the family, esp with airbenders. I had a thought there might be a problem with 'hybrids' something like with resus factors (is the baby is a diffrent resus factor than the mother the baby will die) that prevents such 'wind and air' combonations from happening.

Actually, given the map which placed the airbending temples being far apart, it's possible that air bending is a genetic quirk, or a trait that can be carried by other clans. Noting how Aang's arrows glow, including his eyes perhaps the markings are genetic? I bet it makes it pretty easy to kill off the airbenders since they are so marked.

And honestly? I don't think the firebenders give a shit about stopping the avatar cycle, considering the last ep of the season. They are TRYING to kill everyone else off.

*loves Iroh.* *huggles him* hmn.... *distracts him with a lotus piece and molests his Nephew*

[identity profile] rianax.livejournal.com 2005-12-12 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
/Since bending goes on genetic lines, it's likely not just the bender would be killed, but also the family, esp with airbenders. /

But unlike say in Naruto where controlled breeding is needed to keep the unique traits, the Avatar world places more of a spirtual emphasis on the bending ability where the geography of the people affects the talent of which element they can use.

And the exact factors behind bending is not as simple as having blue eyes, Bending is a /talent/ like art, music or dance which depends as much on the sublime as having a good eye for color.

/Actually, given the map which placed the airbending temples being far apart, it's possible that air bending is a genetic quirk, or a trait that can be carried by other clans./

I am not sure I follow how the distance between the temples leads to airbending being a genetic quirk. As you said before, the Airbenders were monks and presumably nuns, they had to get their little darlings somewhere and we never did see who lives in the valleys and highlands of those mountains like Tibet or Nepal.

/Noting how Aang's arrows glow, including his eyes perhaps the markings are genetic?/

I think the glowy think was an Avatar only thing. It is mentioned early on that the arrow marking were taken from the flying bison as a symbol for the Airbenders.

/They are TRYING to kill everyone else off./

I second that.

[identity profile] icelightning.livejournal.com 2005-12-27 03:57 am (UTC)(link)
Laaate but the airbender symbols are tattoos. People call them tattoos throughout the series but I can't remember who right now. Sorta "Airbender tattoos? He's the Avatar! D= D= Get him!" or similar for the Fire Nation Soldiers.

[identity profile] rianax.livejournal.com 2005-12-12 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
/is that "there are still airbenders" thing something you have deduced or something that the canon states officially?/

It is pretty well establish that from the ruins of the temples that the dominant culture of the Airbenders has been pretty much wiped out in the series, but the idea that there are no Airbenders /anywhere/ except for Aang is too literal and close minded to consider. It fucks up the cycle and balance of the world too serious to be true. And ignores basic Earth logic.

1. Airbenders have been demonstrated to be monks (and nuns) and little Airbenders aren't delivered by storks. They have to come from somewhere.

2. Bending can be inheirited, but not absolutely. Haru and his father can Bend. Katara can but she is the only one in her family that can. In the Fortuneteller, one twin could bend but the other couldn't.

3. It is far easier to destory a culture than a people. Even with a century could the Fire Nation actually track down every little hamlet, village, and refugee with ancestory in Airbending. How exactly could they manage that?

4. Bending without training is difficult and problematic even when you are as obsessed as Katara was. With all the masters gone, anyone with Airbending skill is of minor threat to a trained Fire Nation soldier.

5. Whatever remains of the Airbenders is not going to be holed up in the old temples or anywhere easy to find.

Avatar suffers from so many sues.