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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2005-10-15 10:12 am
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RARR

This in reply to a fucking stupid, narrow minded, bitchy review from someone who apparently thinks I'm here to cater to her bias...


IF YOU WANT TO READ SAKURA BASHING SO BAD, GET THE HELL AWAY FROM MY FIC, BITCH.

Also, after you babble at me for your misreading and misunderstanding what I actually wrote (the hell did I say she was as strong as Sasuke? Do you open both eyes to read? He was letting her get in hits because she was frustrated and needed to calm down. He wasn't even TRYING.) because you're a misogyne with a severe allergy to female characters (OMG SHE'S NOT TEH EVUL ENEMY OR TEH MATCHMAKER SO SHE'S OBVIOUSLY A MARY-SUE) and my not writing her into a carton cut-out and relegating her in a closet so I can have cliché Seme/Uke sexx0ring all over the place, and daring to make this OMG HET !!! THIS BISEXUAL THREESOME FIC HAS BOY/GIRL SCENES IN IT -- the least you can do is grow a pair of metaphoric balls and leave your email.

Bitch, please.

[/pitchforky]

*sigh* And to reassure the Teamwork readers who can't guess where I'm going with the fic... The relationship is going to be EQUAL FROM ALL SIDES. Meaning, YES, Sasuke and Naruto DO and WILL love each other romantically -- hell, in my mind Sasuke already has a crush on Naruto the size of the moon, he just doesn't want to admit it because he's a big bad macho male with more pride than common sense and he's too proud to suck it up and tell his rival he feels all tingly every time they beat each other up.

I think a ffnet reviewer said it best: right now, it's tilted a bit in the Naruto loves Sakura who loves Sasuke who loves Naruto way -- and even that is a gross oversimplification of the complex tangle of feelings that links the three of them together; Naruto rivals/admires/friendships Sasuke, Sasuke protects/secretlyappreciates Sakura, Sakura has tons of affection/cutecuddlylove for Naruto. Eventually, they're all going to learn to love each other just as much -- if not in the same ways. Yes, there are different ways of loving people, and if you've been in love more than once, you know that already.



... ahh. I feel better.

and now I worry that I scared the semi-lurkers into hiding again. o_o; You can leave crit, people, I don't mind! Whan I mind is narrow-minded fangirls trying to get me to write what THEY want -- well I'm sorry I don't bash in my fics, even characters I don't personally like, and I'm sorry not everyone in my fics just happens to be gay, and -- oh. Wait. No, I'm not.

... *sigh* if there's a problem in characterisation or interaction of characters, if you think they'd never say this or would rather do that, or if I place one of the couples in Teamwork forward and forget another one, I DO want to hear it. I WILL listen, and I WILL consider what you said and attempt to fix any problem you find. I will NOT cater to entitlement whores and brainless fantwits.

[identity profile] bloodyscary.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 08:32 am (UTC)(link)
*tapotte l'épaule d'asuka *
Zen choupette, tu fais peur aux gens^^

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ext_49: ([chibi] Sasuke - chidori hehe)

[identity profile] kylara.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 08:38 am (UTC)(link)
*hugs* It's actually fun to watch you get upset and rant about shit in our fandom, you should do it more often. It makes me laugh because it's true. <3 I love how you write Teamwork because, partly, yes, you're good to all the characters. There is so much damn character-bashing out there that it's sickening, especially because I like Sasuke and Sakura a lot and they seem to be two of the biggest targets.

So, where is this comment that you got so angry at? At ffnet?

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[personal profile] edenfalling 2005-10-15 09:18 am (UTC)(link)
*pets soothingly*

The idiots will always be with us, true, but one does wish that the ones who gleefully misinterpret stories would, at the least, not blindly and blithely assume that authors agree with them.

After a while, you start to wonder where you went wrong, that it's possible for them to misread your stories, or you, so badly.

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[identity profile] icedark-elf.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 09:57 am (UTC)(link)
You know, just reading your description about the characters makes me all happy again. How do you do that?

And some people are just twits.

*purrs and goes back into semilurker mode*

(Anonymous) 2005-10-15 10:30 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I'm a random lurker, but that just plain sucks! I love Teamwork and think you're doing all the characters brilliantly... considering that it's an AU and all the stuff that happened and everything. It always makes me happy to see them acting like how real people would >goes to set up landmines around the nastyperson and gives you pocky and cookies< And you're not THAT scary... o.O

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Glad you feel better. ;D

[identity profile] bootoye.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
I'm a semi-lurker (um...i posted a comment to you last week)

I think you should know that your team7 story is pretty unique. I've read some of the other so-called naru\sasu\saku threesome fics and they are usually compromise triangle stories. ie. since naru likes saku who likes sasu who likes naru and thus they can't get their love on their own then they will compromise (with a big orgy) so everyone will get what they want while they indulge the other person.
Thus when people see your team7 summary they think its one of those. Maybe that's why they are still looking for some bashing within the fic because that's what happenes in those other threesome triangle fics. I'm not trying to put down anyone else's fics but I must say that you really make it work....... maybe miss thang really thought you had written a triangle story...
On the other hand if she initially thought that and then read your story and still complained then you need to be aware that some people cannot appreciate quality characterisation and all they want is pwp smexx. In all the other stories they would have been getting it on by chapter 2 or 3 instead of the wonderfully interesting conversations and interplay that teamwork2 has.
Okay I'm done now....wow i've written such a long post before...heh heh I must have been inspired by you Askerian.

Anyway don't let the biatch give you a migraine.......you need a clear mind to continue writing for us.....write....write. I want to read!

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[identity profile] windshades.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 12:36 pm (UTC)(link)
*petloves* *offers you a cookie*

Ok...in response to the reviewer thing...Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the goal of writing fanfics to have the characters as IC as possible? And if the characters are IC, then that usually does not allow for character bashing, right? So, the bitchy reviewer clearly does not actually appreciate canon and is therefore not worthy of your time.

/And to reassure the Teamwork readers who can't guess where I'm going with the fic... The relationship is going to be EQUAL FROM ALL SIDES./
Well, yeah...I thought that was implied within the fic...especially since it's titled "Teamwork" and is incomplete. ^___^ *massive love for the Teamwork universe*

[identity profile] malika.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 02:01 pm (UTC)(link)
your ranting amuses me very much so XD; sorry for the asshat reviewer! --but those kind of fangirls tend to hate most girls in anime, anyway. pfft on them. ::loves on the womenz::

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[identity profile] toki-usagi.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 02:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Can I take the uzi to her now?

We love you, keep writing the way you do, and let Queen Bitch #105569 rot. Believe me, if there's an issue with characters, we'd let you know...but it's going to be a valid issue, not an "OMG! You didn't write them the way I this they should be written so it's wrong!" issue.

Now get your arse online, I've got a pic to show you! XD

(Anonymous) 2005-10-15 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Visiblement y a encore des gens qui confondent "threesome" et "triangle amoureux". C'est pas toi qui te plaignait au sujet des fics avec le mauvais avertissement ? Elle a pas à se plaindre, tu as averti depuis le début ! Quand à expliquer à un auteur comment écrire son histoire...
Oublie-la! Nous on t'aime comme tu es ! (Et si elle sait comment une fic NaruSasu doit être écrite, pourquoi elle l'écrit pas elle-même, merde !?)

Cholera

[identity profile] animeprincess.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
._. yanno, i wrote a few rants on some of your comment sections in previous entries. i defended Sakura and how cool she actually is. most people wouldn't even recognize this, but i said it, and you can go back and look all those times ago.

BUT if you're lazy/can't find it, here goes a basic overview.

Sakura is actually a really tough girl. considering that yes, she's not that special in comparison with Sasuke and Naruto physically, she's still really smart and is able to recognize and learn from a lot of the experiences she has. beyond all this, LOOK at who she's being compared to. SASUKE AND NARUTO. one of them has a demon fox with NINE GODDAMN TAILS. each tail represents a hundred years of life...that sucker's a thousand years old. you realize how strong a kitsune GETS when it's a 1000 years old?! that's tough, chakra and magically wise. and Sasuke is of the Uchiha clan. he's got more abilities and chakra naturally than most ninja have in their little finger, and he's not even fullgrown yet. the fact that Sakura can manage to keep up with Sasuke and Naruto, at least on some level, is impressive, and speaks to how cool she is in comparisn to, oh, you or me. she's a really cool character, when you think about it.

okay, i'm done. anyone else want this soapbox?

[identity profile] valles-uf.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 04:15 pm (UTC)(link)
okay, i'm done. anyone else want this soapbox?

I would, but anything you might've missed I think I already hit when I was embarrassing myself one post down, so there's not much point repeating it. ^_^;

Oh, or, wait - despite the fact that the only time before the Chuunin Exam when Kakashi hadn't -completely- blown her off was when he was using her to goad and embarrass Sasuke and Naruto, and the fact that she'd had much tougher opposition during the second test, she managed to fight a much fresher Ino - who's supposedly the best kunoichi of her year - to a total standstill.

And this is when she's still at her -worst-.

Ja, -n

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[identity profile] silverkiiri.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 04:35 pm (UTC)(link)
::loves:: Why do dump people insist on making teh Asuka mad? I'll never understand. But there are some people out there who should just stop breathing. And, for the record, I <3 Teamwork's characterizations. They are IC and perfect. ^_^ ::cuddle::

[identity profile] miko-no-da.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 04:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Go you! (It's far too early for me to come up with anything more coherent and appreciative than that, but there is much support from this direction)

[identity profile] rainbowlasers.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
What. That's so ... Ergh! I mean, I love the female characters of Naruto AND WHEN THEY DON'T EXIST I FEEL ALL SAD INSIDE ;o;

Where the fuck did that reviewer miss the word THREESOME. Yes, that does mean they are going to be THREE. Not one, not two, not four, but THREE. Count it with me, people.

One character of team seven!
Two characters of team seven!
Three characters of team seven in a threesome! *thunderclap*

Theeeeeere we go. :D

[identity profile] lomelinde-sama.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 06:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Mais elle sest super ta Sakura ! Au contraire, je ne l'ai jamais autant aimée ! Elle a les qualités de ses défauts, si l'on peut dire, et ça se voit quand tu écris. D'ailleurs, commes je le dis souvent, si elle était pas là, je me demande comment les deux autres andouilles s'en sortiraient les trois-quarts du temps.

[identity profile] icelightning.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Wow, that sucks. I used to be a Sakura basher to some extent, but she ends up growing a lot during the series. In the beginning, she's just annoying, but she grows up through knowing Sasuke and Naruto. Started loving her during the Chuunin exam. =X And haven't looked back.

Also, you sound like you need some cheering up. So I present to you a girly Sasuke Action figure:
http://pics.livejournal.com/icelightning/gallery/00001086

XD I found them on e-bay. And I can't stop laughing. HE LOOKS LIKE A GIRL. OH, SAKI-CHAN.

[identity profile] nacchi-camui.livejournal.com 2005-10-15 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
*cuddles you* *kills the biatch* So jealous people around here.

And just in case : don't fear teh Asuka, stalkers ! XD (she just bites sometimes :pp )

Where's that chick's brain?

[identity profile] toisiandragon.livejournal.com 2005-10-16 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Free confession here - I'm mostly a lurker. But reading through your rant (which, btw, was absolutely GORGEOUS) and the comments on this topic, I just had to go back and read the chapter in question.

It's a wonder that your anonymous reviewer was even able to make a review at all. Or does this line not look familiar: "He was glad to see that she wasn't using as much anymore the straightforward, "let's bulldoze our way through the enemy's defenses" way which worked so well for Naruto himself but didn't do much for someone of her body weight and strength, and was instead starting to feint and use a few swapping jutsu. He was also glad to see that Sasuke was, so far, managing to keep a balance, not so fast and strong that she couldn't connect at all, but not so slow that she felt like he was throwing it because she didn't deserve a real match."

Now, what part of that indicates that Sakura is on the same level as Sasuke? Don't know about you, Asuka, or any of your lurkers/reviewers who will be reading my little rant, but ignoring an entire paragraph (and not just one, really - you are pretty clear on the difference in skill levels in several places during that spar - this is just my example) doesn't help you either enjoy/comprehend/achieve sufficient knowledge for legitimate criticism.

'Bout the only thing I've ever noticed is the little nitpicky "why use that word when this one would be much better" little thoughts that always creep into my head. And they're not even that important; it's like the difference between writing "would not" and "wouldn't", really.

p.s. any supreme rant (and yours qualifies) is scary while it's on - but your personality is too good to hold it against you, so we all love you anyway. ::gives big grin and box of chocolate - German, not Swiss, since the store was out::

I'm a lurker.....

[identity profile] merrysphynx.livejournal.com 2005-10-16 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
but not cause I'm scared. You only yell at the stupid people. Mostly I don't have anything to say except "you rock," which you get enough anyway that I'm not sure you'd appreciate it so much. And for what it's worth, I honestly think that the threesome is so natural for Team 7 that it is actually my very favorite... not pairing... trioing?... sort of romantic fic to read. The way I see it, three kids are forced into a situation in which they are forced to rely and bond only with each other. Even Kakashi sets himself up as an adversary against whom they must unite. On top of that, they are at the very edge of the age of sexual awareness (in canon). Plus, they kill people. On a regular basis. That requires a sort of suspension of moral conventions that sort of invites a threesome. Even when it is convention in your village to kill people, it sort of messes you up. Not that I'd know personally. Hm.

Anyway, you're doing good and she can go screw herself. With something sharp. In the eye. And the keyboard. So no one has to read her inane spew.

[identity profile] muffytaj.livejournal.com 2005-10-16 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Funny how a BISEXUAL threesome would contain some HET. I mean, really, what is the world coming to when boy/girl/boy = some boy/girl? AN END, THAT'S WHAT!

Seeings as I prefer NaruSakuSasu to SasuSaku, NaruSaku, and NaruSasu, I find this reviewer's view of their seperate entities silly. And even though my view of their relationship differs from your view of their relationship a little, that does not make it wrong. Fan brats need to learn that different != wrong.

[identity profile] meanne77.livejournal.com 2005-10-16 07:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Tiens, une autre fic KKM assez sympa ^_^ http://www.livejournal.com/users/astraplain/12297.html
J'aime bien quand on s'attèle un peu à la famille de Wolfram. J'aimerais bien que la série nous en apprenne plus sur les pères de Gwen et de Wolf (pourquoi on ne connaîtrait que celui de Conrad, d'abord ? -_-)

[identity profile] kiyakotari.livejournal.com 2005-10-19 02:54 pm (UTC)(link)
**shifty eyes**

...If I hunt the stupid person down and offer them up on a silver platter with fries and some dipping sauce, will it make you write more?

**wink**