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BWAHAHAHAH. To be completely predictable, Sasuke and Naruto!

(or maybe being completely predictable would be asking for askerian and reiyel >_>; )

Hmm... Orochimaru and Jiraiya!

(Also, you need to watch Shippuden 194. SO MUCH YAOI THEERE WAS A HEART SHAPED SPLASH AND A KISS OHGOD \o/)

Kurama and Hiei from YYH?

Or Heero and Duo, is it? I don't watch Gundam Wing but I'm always looking for motivation to? XD

Just because I can, Sakura and Ino.

^o^

1. When or if I started shipping them: Um, first chapter Sasuke appeared, pretty much. Rivalry! ONSCREEN KISS! I was a goner.

2. What I think their challenge is: Sasuke is terrified of caring for someone again. Naruto is way too emotionally dependent.

3. What makes me happy about them: soulmaaaaates. Also when they side together against outsiders, also how much raw intensity they can pull out of each other, ALSO ALL THE HO YAY.

4. What makes me sad about them: So much heartbreak. ;^;

5. What moment I wish had never happened: um. well, I haven't liked the BWAHAHAHAing evil!sasuke thinger but maybe there's good in-universe explanation -- none of that "well, i as the author think it would make for a bigger challenge." Otherwise I like everything that's happened between them so far. >D

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Hmm. Sasuke, with Sakura, or "fine you said you were sorry and I believe that, so i'll give you a LAST chance"!Karin -- IF Naruto stays his best friend forevarzomg. I don't think he can open emotionally to anyone else if Naruto isn't here to shore him up and provide stability/a good example/kicks in the ass when he withdraws again. Otherwise, no one; he'd emotionally destroy them, if he could even be convinced to bother. Naruto... if Sasuke is unavailable he goes with a lot of people. I'd be okay if he shacks up with Hinata or Sakura or even Ino, that'd be fun. Or maybe Sai, though while I see what Sai sees in Naruto I have a little more trouble seeing what Naruto could see in Sai except a Sasuke reminder (worst case scenario a replacement), and that'd be really bad for them both.

7. My happily ever after for them: Sasuke realizes exactly what he was on the verge of throwing away and decides to give up on his revenge and his obsession with the past for Naruto's sake, and he comes home.

(pfff. XD okay, okay.

1. When or if I started shipping them: Well, I wrote them meeting while Kery was bedridden and Reiyel was hitting on him to be a dick, and it was so funny I just kept at it, and then Reiyelmuse went all "oh crap, I think I like him for real now". I had NOT expected that.
2. What I think their challenge is: ASKERIAN IS SO GODDAMN STRAIGHT. ;^; ... also Rei is an asshole. That does not help. He's just plain not a good person, and just because he's in love, it doesn't fix that.
3. What makes me happy about them: The explosive dynamic. Always fun. Also Kery being suspicious of him/his motives. Bwahaha.
4. What makes me sad about them: Kery doesn't trust Reiyel (with good reason!), but he DOES feel sorry for him, and that really burns.
5. What moment I wish had never happened: NONE BECAUSE I'M EVIL BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Reiyel does not "end up" with people. People are breaks he takes along the way. I guess he could keep shacking up with Belial. Askerian would probably find himself a nice girlfriend or other and have an easy, comfortable~~, BORING~~ relationship with.
7. My happily ever after for them: Askerian falls in love back? ;__;

1. When or if I started shipping them: I don't think I ever shipped them. It felt to me as if Orochimaru never did care at all but was using Jiraiya all along, and Jiraiya gave up on him. I can't find a friendship or even a one-sided heartbreak to build on between them.

2. What I think their challenge is: Orochimaru doesn't have the emotional ability to care about anyone he cannot own or use, and even then the best he can do is to love them like one loves their tools.

3. What makes me happy about them: They have a few moments where Oro snarks at Jiraiya and I can't help but like that. XD;

4. What makes me sad about them: THEY COULD HAVE BEEN FRIENDS AT LEAST but Orochimaru was not emotionally available and Jiraiya didn't push.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: I'm pretty much okay with that whole plot.

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Oro: uhh. ~~he has his nubile young men harem and~~ ... Okay, no, Kabuto, they're totally married already. XD Jiraiya, with Tsunade. ♥

7. My happily ever after for them: I think they best they could do would be Orochimaru giving up on his obsession for immortality and allowing himself to truly become friends with Jiraiya but I do SO not see that happening. @__@; Just not who Oro is.

OOOO YAOI WITH WHO AND WHO. :D :D :D also, how's the plot?

Eh, Sakura's a damselle in distress and there's something about a gang of thieves but Naruto and Sasuke are literally stuck holding each other's hands for the whole episode :DDD Also, the animation is absurdly high quality considering it's filler.

I was going to ask about Naruto and Sasuke but I was beaten to it... So, Naruto and Sai please!

(and if I can throw another one in here, your thoughts on Suigetsu and Karin would be awesome :3 )

Hmmm....Kakashi and Iruka? Because I've seen it done badly, I've seen it done fantastically, and I wanna know what you think.

Kurama/Hiei

1. When or if I started shipping them: I think around the time when they were drafted in to help Yuusuke, though it was mostly that I loved Hiei and Kurama was pretty. Then I started really thinking about their history and the way they know each other in a way the two humans don't.

2. What I think their challenge is: They're youkai. There's probably issues of trust and power levels and who can eat who between them. (... mmm nonhuman mindsets)

3. What makes me happy about them: THEY'RE YOUKAI. :D also, neither of them is uke, pretty flowing red locks nonwithstanding. They make for a really dangerous partnership. They have funny interaction, neither of them is "the stupid one", they're both bemused/amused/strangely faithful to Yuusuke...

4. What makes me sad about them: Nothing? I like the way they interact just fine, and I don't think there's any real roadblocks to worry about.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: I was a little woe at them going to work for a different makai lord, but you know in a few years they'll have taken over and then they'll go right back to having weekly meetings and sparring and being nakama. Also I don't think either of them cares about being exclusive/faithful (nonhuman mindset!) so I don't see Kurama being all heartbroken and moping because Hiei likes Mukuro. Actually he'd likely laugh at him a bit and say something about how cute that is.

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Hiei, Mukuro or Yukina (ohoho twincest). Kurama is fine on his own, though I see him as a serial monogamist pretty easily. Also, either of them would likely jump at the chance to hook up with Yuusuke, but that wouldn't become anything more than a fuckbuddies thing. Being his friends/allies/people who stand at his back is more important.

7. My happily ever after for them: pretty much them being makai lords/seconds in command where it doesn't matter if they don't see each other for several years, they always know they'd just have to call and the other one would be there in a heartbeat and there would be no debt between them. Comfortable.

Heero/Duo

1. When or if I started shipping them: When I started reading fanfic, so... before I had seen the series. It was the one ship I kept seeing everywhere, I naturally got convinced. XD

2. What I think their challenge is: ... I don't know. Heero is rootless and it seems that's a problem for him. Maybe if their ideals and what they want to do after the war pulled them on different roads -- they'd place that higher than staying together, I think.

3. What makes me happy about them: the mutual snark! the saving-each-other! the teasing and poking and prodding from Duo, the "i'll pretend I don't care and then go and use your name" from Heero, the trust in each other's ability that develops, the low-key mutual admiration by the time of the movie (heero admitting that duo is a better pilot and he trusts his ability, duo being all "what a guy!") ...

4. What makes me sad about them: I've been losing the OOOOOH OTP. sometimes it'll come back into focus for a bit, and then i'll go and forget why they fit again. T__T

5. What moment I wish had never happened: Nothing in particular.

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Heero, with Wufei (nghyesplz). Or Relena (they'd be a Very Srs. couple, but they're on the same wavelength so that'd go fine.) Or Hilde (it's fun! XD). Duo, with Hilde, or a FWB thing with quatre-and-trowa. Or anyone he wants, he's good like that.

7. My happily ever after for them: They find a new cause after the war and stay partners and work on it together being disgustingly competent and snarking at each other and being hot together. Yesh.

... HAND HOLDING I AM SO THERE.

thank you muchly for the heads up. Oooohohohohohoho.

Do they have to be pairings or can I beg for your opinions on Sora/Kairi/Riku or the Final Fantasy VII...clump?

Zack and Cloud. (or a moresome with them in it)

1. When or if I started shipping them: During the time Sakura was getting beat up and Ino had all those flashbacks and then she jumped in the middle to protect her. It was beautiful. T^T-b

2. What I think their challenge is: They don't really talk openly about their deepest issues anymore, do they? ;__; Their bond is not as painful as it was, but as a result it has become more shallow.

3. What makes me happy about them: Snarky friendship! The fact that they can induge in their feminine side with each other (it's kinda discouraged outside of that -- girly is lesser somehow. >__>)

4. What makes me sad about them: Sakura doesn't define herself by her relationship to Ino anymore, she's growing out of their rivalry and Ino likely feels herself left behind -- they are still friends, but she's not one of Sakura's most important bonds which Sakura uses to define herself anymore.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: The filler's "Ino iz a healer now too!! :D " and then the manga picking that up. They could have had Ino working on her OWN skills -- she's a telepath! she could be working on interrogation and possession and mindbreaking and instead she tries her best to copy Sakura and perpetuate the "girl = not fighter = healer" cliche. I mean a telepath isn't a direct fighter either but it's still ORIGINAL. It would be HERS. You don't see Sakura trying to pick up mind jutsu! >:/

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Sakura, Naruto&Sasuke, or maybe Lee (tho they have their own issues.) Ino, with Naruto (short-term only but WOWZA so much fun XD) Sai (it could be hilarious) or Temari. (mmmm *_*) Maybe Chouji, but only if it gets more development than "chouji is awesome so he deserves a hot girlfriend, and Ino ought to become less shallow!" because whoa double standards.

7. My happily ever after for them: they start talking again, Sakura allows Ino to HELP her with her problems, to back her up in her fights, they have strategy sessions together and discover they can do awesome things together and they can save people too, they become stronger thanks to each other and they don't slide into "naw, i'm fine, what makes you think i'm not :) so how about that movie yesterday", and sakura realizes she's jealous of ino's boyfriends taking ino's attention away from her and oh, damn, i can so be attracted to girls after all. (ino already knows that, thanks XD she looks to me as more self-aware that way than sakura would be. XDD)

♥ I might be convinced now! XD

Also HK! ♥@ It's my fav fandom and I agree with most of what you said. XD

1. When or if I started shipping them: I don't ship them as a twosome, but I do love the Sai => Naruto dynamic. His hero worship is so n'awwww, I can totally buy him in love with Naruto.

2. What I think their challenge is: Naruto alas is totally oblivious and, if he's thinking about romance at all, in love with either Sasuke or Sakura or both. Also, Naruto fancies himself straight, and he's not that intense with Sai so I'm not sure how Sai would convince him to give it a try.

3. What makes me happy about them: They're funny/cute.

4. What makes me sad about them: The thought that Sai would likely consider himself second best to Naruto's love for Sasuke/team seven in general.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: Well, for Sakura his guilt trip was bad, but for what it means about his relationship to Naruto, he was trying to defend Naruto and/or get him what he thought Naruto wanted and that was ... clumsy and wrong, but at least he was trying and it showed he was growing up emotionally (even if he's not there yet XD). Hmm. That moment has me really ambivalent.

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Sai: pre-guilt trip I would have said Sakura but, well. :/ Ino, as a humoristic get-together thing, but I don't know how they'd deal with each other. ... Sasuke, actually, it would be REALLY weird and messed up but perhaps also strangely full of parallels and 'i get you's. Perhaps Suigetsu, because I'm evil like that. XD

7. My happily ever after for them: Well. It involves a team Kakashi harem. XD;

Rukia/Ichigo/Orihime

or

Karin/Sasuke

Oh man. I... I'm kinda allergic to that couple. XDD;;

1. When or if I started shipping them: AAAA NEVAR.

2. What I think their challenge is: do they even know each other, apart from "that douche who wanted to tell me how to raise my kids"? What do they have in common apart from Naruto? Kakashi was an ANBU and is always out of the village, Iruka teaches kids, what would they talk about? Both their parents are dead, big deal, half the village probably counts with that criteria and besides Iruka's parents nobly sacrificed themselves and Kakashi's commited suicide out of public shame... what do they have in common? I can't see it, I can't see one reason why they'd bother at all, sometimes I think this pairing was born half because "lol naruto has a daddy and mommy" and half because of a total lack of other options.

3. What makes me happy about them: Nothing, really.

4. What makes me sad about them: fucking iruka is not naruto's MOMMY and that does not make him a HOUSEWIFE-UKE STEREOTYPE. okay no it doesn't make me SAD per se... >__>

5. What moment I wish had never happened: um, NOTHING ever happened. XD;

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: :D :D :D I don't care enough about Iruka to find him a partner, and I believe that Kakashi is, while theorically straight, functionally asexual, due to major emotional unavailability. Maybe he'd have a fuckbuddies thing with Anko, but that's as far as I ship him with other people. ... okay no, I like the idea of him flirting with Yamato but poor Yamato would be chewed up and spat out if that went anywhere.

7. My happily ever after for them: yeah uh. yeah. >__> it was a genjutsu all along.

pff XD Naw, threesomes are fine. More than fine!

I'm just doing sorikai for you though. I'm lazy like that.

1. When or if I started shipping them: aaaall along the gaaaaame it was so full of cute. also then i read a ton of awesome fic. .__.

2. What I think their challenge is: The boys coddle Kairi too much and made her a bit of a prize to squabble over at times. That needs to stop.

3. What makes me happy about them: so entangled and caring so much about all of them and aaaaacute. I love that Riku fell deeper into darkness because he was doing his best to save kairi and because he felt betrayed by sora NOT doing that (or so he thought or something), I love that Sora cares for them both so much, I love that Kairi is pretty much the brains of this operation, I loved when she forgot Sora but didn't *quite*.

4. What makes me sad about them: Mostly Riku's issues because Sora and Kairi are real easy to see as "let's all hook up." Sora wouldn't even notice the rules he's flaunting and Kairi would... care but decide to NOT care, IF ONLY THEY COULD THINK ABOUT IT. argh. DX Poor brokenriku. he needs huggles and lovin'.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: Kairi choosing Sora. Not because she chose Sora, but because that implied she wasn't choosing Riku. noooo he needs love tooooo ;___;

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: :/
Okay so. Sora with Yuffie (hyperactive annoyances ftw! XD), Kairi with, uh, Selphie I think yeah >_> and Riku with SEPHIROTH. I blame ciceqi for that one. >__>

7. My happily ever after for them: they go traveling being keyblade master of AWESOME togetherrrrrrrrrr~ and come back home for summer vacations. XD

i... might be mixing up fic stuff with game stuff. it's been a while. XD;

That...pretty much makes total sense to me, yeah. Mindmeld apparently! Except I think the boys (as opposed to Squeenix) coddled her was when Sora wouldn't let her go back to Hollow Bastion with him in the first game, which was actually a smart tactical decision; at this point she was only recently incapacitated, she seems to have no combat training, she has no useful weapon, and her magical abilities are only just discovered and entirely instinctive, so bringing her really is basically going LET'S HAND THEM A PERFECT HOSTAGE/EASY MARK.

There may have been things in the second game I forgot/didn't quite make it to, though.

(And heh, I didn't expect both! That would make a lot of analysis.)

1. When or if I started shipping them: pretty much when I understood who Zack was/had been. Ngh.

2. What I think their challenge is: he's dead? D: that's um yes. Also they work as friends and they both know about each other's Romantic Crush on A Girl so they might be stuck in each other's friendzone.

3. What makes me happy about them: 4. What makes me sad about them:

This is a bit of the same thing. oh god Zack putting his all behind saving Cloud's life -- he could have escaped on his own, they'd never have caught him, but he got killed because he couldn't leave CLoud behind. Then Cloud who was so hero-worshippingly adorable re:Zack so can't cope with Zack's death that he remakes his own brain to become a Zacklike hybrid thing. Wauuugh. It crushes my heart with loving angst of yaynoes.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: NOOO DON'T DIE NOOOOO. okay, no, i liked it because it was angstybeautiful. JUST WISH HE WAS SECRETLY PICKED UP BY THE TURKS/HOJO AND YOU CAN SAVE HIM LATER ON. ;__;

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Zack: Aeris, Cloud: Aeris or Tifa, both of them: Sephiroth. AT THE SAME TIME :D :D :D

7. My happily ever after for them: i'm writing it. it's Restore. XD

Now I remember why I like you so much, you're practically my brain twin! ♥ This also totally reminds me to play catch up with the manga. =D Ino in interrogation would be hot.

Rukia/Ichigo/Orihime

1. When or if I started shipping them: I think when I started shipping rukia/orihime, which was during that time Rukia reassured Orihime that she could fight and then they started training together. I just also went "hey, but Orihime likes Ichigo and Rukia also probably does. Hmmm."

2. What I think their challenge is: Rukia and Orihime are both in love with Ichigo, while they "merely" love and care for each other; but in the other hand they open up more and communicate better with each other than with him. He's a bit lost and submerged because he's not really great with girls as GIRLS (as a romantic thing, instead of people with breasts)

3. What makes me happy about them: So cute and full of cracktastic glee.

4. What makes me sad about them: Rukia is a shinigami, she can't just come and shack up with them, it's going to have to be a long-distance relationship at leats part-time and those are hard.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: nothing so far. Hmm.

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Rukia, with Renji. Orihime, with Ishida (i used to ship them in the Save Rukia arc. XD) Ichigo, with no one. He's not looking for romance.

7. My happily ever after for them: rukia gets assigned to karakura town and once they're done with university they all move in together. ;^;

SasuKarin

1. When or if I started shipping them: not sure I really shipped it as a mutual thing outside of a team hebi orgy (the sasuke in my head is all "i don't want dissension in the ranks so i'll do all of you or none of you, no favoritism." XD) but I started liking karin=>sasuke when it started showing that she wasn't merely a cliche fangirl but that her interest was kinda creepy and weird. XD That made things so much more interesting.

2. What I think their challenge is: Sasuke is too obsessed with other things to let her in, and other people have prior claims that Karin would need to root out.

3. What makes me happy about them: they're hilarious. Also yay for sexywrong.

4. What makes me sad about them: Sasuke is an asshole.

5. What moment I wish had never happened: Sasuke going crazy enough to fucking stab through her and not apologizing and and and -- it was awful. But funny enough, Karin going "fuck it, i'm not gonna let myself be USED like that" made me like the idea of them getting together after sasuke tracks her down and CRAWLS about how sorry he is better. Make him respect your boundaries, karin! >(

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: Karin, with Suigetsu or Sakura (hotness.XD) Hell, maybe with Sai, it'd be so full of weird and WTF. Sasuke, TEAM SEVEN OT3 of course. >__>

7. My happily ever after for them: sasuke comes to her quietly and he doesn't know what the fuck he was thinking and there's no words for what he did, he knows she was faithful to him and she helped him and took risks for him and he repayed her by using her and throwing her away. he is in her debt. She *uses* that. and little by little he wins back her trust.

1. When or if I started shipping them: pretty much when they met.

2. What I think their challenge is: they, um, hate each other? XD although that is not the biggest problem, even if there's hate there should be a little more respect. But I think they were starting to see what the other one was capable of and what he/she was MADE of, and that would help a lot with those issues.

3. What makes me happy about them: The way they bitch at each other is GLORIOUS. Also LOL competing over Sasuke's attention. It's pretty much hate/hate right now but then they went and had nakama moments when fighting killerbee and AAAAAA. My buttons.

4. What makes me sad about them: not sure how they'll have more nakama moments when Karin is in Konoha. ;__; Nooo team hebitaka, get back together!

5. What moment I wish had never happened: Sasuke betraying them all and breaking up the team. ;__;

6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other: ... Sasuke for both of them actually. XD

7. My happily ever after for them: i dunno. They meet again after the war is over (in konoha? center of everything now) and they bitch at each other to cover up that they're surprised the other one is even alive, but then decide to go get a drink together for old times' sake and then, well. things go on from there.

Most of? ooh tell me where you think different, different interpretations are often so interesting and eye-opening. *grabby hands*

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Orochimaru/Jiraiya

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Ino/Sakura! :D

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zack/cloud!

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argh LJ!

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