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Naruto 492

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1. "it turned into a human?!"
Ehh, naruto grinning like a happy fool and dattebayo-ing is boring.
killerbee: *stares at notebook* :/

2. "should i talk to this kid or pass? if I had to pick i'd turn and haul ass. i'm bad with kids -- send him back to class."
first, the translators are awesome. XD Second, pffhaha Naruto's =__= face is great (also a nice change after the sparkling yay face. XDDD)
surfer-ninja-dude: *fangirls killerbee*

3. tadahh! entrance of another guy! The guide, Motoi.

... Gai-sensei and Aoba were here? Either it's the first they showed up or i'd totally forgotten. @_@ Ah, poor sea-sick Gai-sensei.
I have to admit I was Very Sad to realize he had come without his team. It's been so long since Neji and Tenten had any focus... at least Lee got his little escapade recently... boohoo.

4. lol the black guy is buddies with the gorilla lol. -__-; then again the guy says "killerbee has tamed all the beasts in the island", so, maybe kishi just wanted to draw a ~~oozaru~~ giant fanged gorilla.
Named King.
Sometimes, Kishi is so original I could cry. >__>;;;

5. Naruto: so who the hell is he?
guide-guy: in the hidden cloud, he is a hero of heroes. (blahblahblah) He's a jinchuuriki just like you.
... T___T except until recently Naruto was anything but a hero. *hug hug* and i get a feeling he's a hero now just because he's been saving everyone, but that it's DESPITE being a jinchuuriki, and that konoha people are still eww/ick/grr about the kyuubi part. meh.

6. blahblah this island is where he learned to control his power...
look, his house has a hachibi head on it. ... meh. onward, onward.

7. naruto: *goes knocking* Train me!
oh, I LOOOOOOOVE that SERIOUS!face Naruto pulls on Killerbee. And then they stare into each other's eyes like manly determined men! (except, wtf killerbee's shades. XD)

8. killerbee: aw man, it's my first vacation in forever, why should I train you. D:
Naruto: *SRS GRAA* aw come on, we're both jinchuuriki! I need your help, man!
killerbee: you got the right attitude, but are you a bad enough dude?
naruto: *starts with the sparkling face again* *... attempts rapping*
killerbee: ......

asuka: *cringes in second-hand embarrassment* DX

9. killerbee: hee! fistbump!
naruto: ^o^ your sunglasses rule, you look like a tool --(SHIT)
killerbee: ... >:/

oh god, he's not...

10&11. HAREM NO JUTSU. Or, how to distract people from the stupid things falling out of your mouth.
oh Naruko-chan, it's been so long. T^T SO MANY ICONS I COULD MAKE.

killerbee: *... slams door on*
pffft. XD

Kishi still does not know how to draw a female ass. So droopy! poor girls. u.u

12. naruto *goes bug the guide person* tell me about killerbee's training regimen! because he won't because he's an ass.

13. guide-guy: >E WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT BEE-SAN. SHUT UP.
Naruto: o.o;;
guide-guy: If you're a jinchuuriki, you should understand the path he's had to walk.

eeeee so it wasn't all easy and heroic from the start for Bee either? He wasn't pampered just because he had the eight-tails and they have a different cultural view of jinchuuriki over there? SHINY.

naruto: I understand, that's why he should understand ME too: ):(((((

14. blahblah fist-bump of ACKNOWLEDGEMENT, bro. *yawn*

15. guide-guy: ... okay that means you're cool! follow me. :D
suspicious yamato is suspicious. "i'll come with if you don't mind... just in case. >__> byyyy the way i'm a wood-element user. just so you know. hint hint."

Waterfall! this is such a trend in manga. serious meditation-based training = waterfall. XD

16. "the falls of TRUTH!" which isn't where killerbee learned to control his beast. Of course it wouldn't be done in one step... betcha there's a half-dozen of those to complete first.
-__-; boring training arcs are boring.

"shut up and sit here and you will see... WHO YOU TRULY ARE INSIDE!!" DUN DUN DUNN.

17. "why didn't you sign those autographs at ichiraku? they came out of nowhere shoving paper in your face like you were their best friend... What a couple of annoying assholes."

oh.

OH MY GOD DARK!NARUTO. SQUEEEEEEEEE.

... I think I'm in love. That pinged me SO HARD. I was getting so BORED with perfect saint hero Naruto, I am so HAPPY there is a part of him that's angry at those people for acting like his buddy NOW when they were probably spitting on him when he was a kid.

It's so much more MEANINGFUL that he's a nice, courageous, protective guy when there's a part of him that does resent people but he gets over it, than just because he's naturally a saint because, uh, because he's the hero! so he must be a saint. It makes him so much more human yet more admirable as well, and it means he was affected by his background instead of just having that history there but not having it touch him in any way.

I love that he must be totally "no! i'm not like that!" because he stuffed it down and pretended it wasn't there, and that he's probably going to have to come to terms with his darkness and accept it before he can go forward.

... that's if the darkness isn't either a totally fake invention put there so he can go "no! i am honestly a good perfect person D:" at it (the sidebar says "an evil naruto appears before the real naruto!" but that doesn't necessarily mean it's not real in a way, just that it's not flesh and blood but an illusion), or Kyuubi being an asshole. Kyuubi being an asshole could be okay as well... Kyuubi affecting Naruto is always EEEEE. But I'd like "part of naruto's subconscious mind" much better. oh please Kishi don't let me down. *crosses fingers*

Okay so the rest of the chapter was boring, but that ending ... eeeeeeeee. n-naruto's raep face. I glee'd.

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OH MY GOD DARK!NARUTO. SQUEEEEEEEEE.

... I think I'm in love. That pinged me SO HARD. I was getting so BORED with perfect saint hero Naruto, I am so HAPPY there is a part of him that's angry at those people for acting like his buddy NOW when they were probably spitting on him when he was a kid.

That? eeeeeeeeee, yessss. ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ I can't wait see ~~how Kishi screws this up~~ the next chapter. XD

I loved just about everything in this chapter~~ but where'd you get your translation? I looked up on mangashare and they didn't have it up. OneManga did but they always use the sucky translations >:E

~~No, this isn't an excuse to read it again, not that I need one~~

The Harem needs to come out more often T_T

http://mangastream.com/ => they're usually early, sometimes even the first one up, AND high quality scans + high quality translation. *loves on*

Yes, it does! T____T

*Bookmarks* Thank you!!!

I too cringed through all the rapping and fist-bumping but the Dark-Naruto gave me Zelda cravings. I suddenly want to see him give up his orange jumpsuit for a green hat and tunic...

OMGWTF DARK!NARUTO. ♥♥♥♥ I love him and all that he symbolizes (for all the reasons you listed). I'm looking forward to the next chapter just for Evil!Naruto. The raep-face won me over that easy. *sporadic moment of glee*

He/It actually came out of left field for me and my friends. We all saw the first few lines of his/its dialogue and expected the blurry shadow to be an illusion of Sasuke. Though that may be because one of my friends shouted "Sasuke dialogue!" the second he read it and screwed up everyone else's perception. One of the few times I've ever disliked having a yaoi fanboy for a friend. Still, squeeee Dark!Naruto. ~~But oh god the shippers.~~

But I'd like "part of Naruto's subconscious mind" much better. oh please Kishi don't let me down. *crosses fingers*

In a few previous chapters - including as recently as 485! - Naruto totally admits that he used to actively hate the villagers and wanted to go "RAWR PUNISH YOU" on their asses. (okay, what he says is that he "wanted revenge" but in this manga it's pretty much the same thing) So I think we have a very good chance of this being a "Naruto vs His Hate" scenario. I'd rather like that myself, so here's hoping!

...I'm just going to ignore all the bad rap in this chapter. Not (entirely) because of deep embarrassment for Naruto's poor attempts, simply because modern rap in all it's forms pretty much just makes me squik. And sorry Bee, but you're no MC Hammer.

I agree on the boring chapter :/
Naruto... I dun get it. One moment he's a promising teen/young man and the next he's at kidengarten, counting tentacles, and worst part, writing him uke-sparkling in fics is CANON now. He's been acting as if he were the stereotype of his self, not his real-self.
(Side note, I miss those heart-warming grins he can make, but those are probably reserved to Sasuke's return anyway. U_U) That's why I'm so happy we get to focus on [du dunn serious stuff] again. DARK NARUTO -- SQUEEE *____* Probably it's his 'inner demons' rather than the hosted bijou personification. Last time we got a glimpse of his psychological world, he was confronted with his fears from Itachi's illusion. It'll be interesting ♥

Also: The KillerBee greeting scene was so totally the encounter of japanese and american culture. At least we found out Naruto can actually rhyme :D ehh! It's a nice touch to add to his creative prankster mind. I've been wondering for a while now whether he could make up a rhyming song (fic plots are tricky). Now I know he can do it, even if for a moment.Yay~ (Just please tell me they're not going to turn it into a commercial hit in Japan. I can already read the anime CD tracks! DX)

"why didn't you sign those autographs at ichiraku? they came out of nowhere shoving paper in your face like you were their best friend... What a couple of annoying assholes."
---> is the first thought that came when I read the actual scene

OH MY GOD DARK!NARUTO. SQUEEEEEEEEE. ---> my reaction exactly

Yup, if you look carefully into the shadows of "dark" naruto's eyes, you kinda see slit pupils, but that might just be there for evil symbolism. His face is adorably creepy, way better than the ROARR face in my opinion, since it's actual, assumed anger/hatred and not just incoherent rage.

SLIFJSEIL YES OMG EEEEEE is it next week yet? *___*

Yeah, the first half of this chapter made me cringe in embarrassment too. I really hate it when characters do embarrassing stuff, I always feel embarrassed for them, which is really unnecessary.

Kishi is definetily a Star Wars fan: first the clone troppers, now the Dagobah scene with your own evil self... =))

I thought the chapter was actually pretty good, but I guess it's because I looked forward to Naruto and Bee interacting. I also kinda figure Bee would brush him off like that since it's well...Bee. I found it pretty funny. Also, I like the training arcs because they tend to show off some of the lesser seen qualities of Naruto. Like when he was training with Jiraiya, it showed how creative and resourceful he can be.

Also, I could not disagree more with your characterization. The hateful streak was always there. We see it often when he reflects on his childhood, how much he resented being treated like shit. I'm sure that even if he hasn't figured it out in his mind that subconsciously he has realized how much of a cruel joke his life has been (son of the most beloved Hokage, yet treated like the worst villain). I have no doubt he was physically abused, as well, but that is speculation on my part. Just because he didn't let the hate consume him doesn't mean he didn't feel it. I mean he even admits that if it hadn't been for Iruka, he would have become like Gaara. That is one reason he so viscerally identifies with Sasuke, their darkness is so similar yet their paths were so different. In many ways, I think Naruto understands life better than Sasuke ever has. However, I think he is terrified of facing that darkness which lingers, more than anything else.

So! Uh, hi! I’m one of those annoying lurkers that hang around here like flies around dead meat, but, I have that special ability of majoring in Japanese culture (bleh, awkward grammar is awkward), so here, have some probably useless explanation.

Anywho, the reason behind the waterfall thing is because it’s … uh, canonical to Japanese history. People who were seeking enlightenment from the everyday ame and giri of life (roughly translated as the dept that you owe someone when they do something for you, taken extremely seriously in Japan, only relaxing recently. Anthropology texts written after/during WW2 still focus highly on the concept of giri, so it’s still very much embedded into the Japanese culture/way of life ~~I’ve been reading too much Naruto if the first thing I automatically type is way of the ninja, haha~~) or who were looking to improve themselves in basically any way would train themselves to ignore all outside influences, such as hunger or freezing cold, in favour of their chosen path to enlightenment. (Seriously, one guy spent seven years finding the answer to a particular Zen question [which basically had nothing to do with the question, but was another question questioning the need for the original question in the first place]{yeah, Zen`s a lot like that} and no one batted an eyelid; they take that shit seriously.)

How this all ties into your waterfall comment, is that one thing they often did to train themselves in detachment/whatever you want to call it in English, is freezing cold baths. Usually two/three times a day during winter especially, a man would get up (one would be before dawn, the other well after dark, and the middle one, if it existed, would be somewhere randomly during the day) and either take a bath is snow melt or walk to a waterfall and sit under it. It was thought that when they finally stopped feeling the cold, they became enlightened/lessened their burden of dept towards the world/improved themselves/there’s no exact English translation.

Basically, ignoration of the cold = strength to the Japanese. It’s one of the reasons why these days Japanese people tend to suffer a lot from colds – school/university buildings will often only turn their heaters on during mid winter, and the Japanese refuse to sacrifice fashion for warmth, generally speaking of course. And believe me, I speak from experience. It’s why they often seem to have the sniffles.

:retreats back into sake lurkerdom:

... this explains SO MUCH. I mean, I knew little parts of it... the purification part, and the fact that they have bad insulation and the girls go in skirt even in the snow seriously what the hell girls DX but the way it all ties together... huh, whoa.

when they finally stopped feeling the cold, they became enlightened/lessened their burden of dept towards the world/improved themselves/there’s no exact English translation.
Oh yeah, there's one. WHEN YOU STOP FEELING THE COLD IT MEANS YOU'RE DYING AAAAH DX

... oh god. XD then again the western world's religious practices contain some truly ridiculous things as well. Heh.

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