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naruto 487

1. front page: Zetsu being creeptastic. Side text says something about "magician's assistant" and trying to drum up mystery and interest. yawn, oh how eager I am for the inevitable zetsu focus ~~prior to his demise GOD YES PLEASE~~. I am SOO eager for more zetsu, guys, you have no idea.

2. Sasuke: *sexy smirk* Hn. => eeee.
Karin: *leaing against a wall still kinda wtfuck dotdotdot* => man, her hair looks especially sasuke-duckbutty there. Whoa. Twincest pings.

Sasuke: "have it your way. i'll kill you first."
Naruto: "heh, you still haven't accepted me as your ~~boyfriend~~ equal."
=> eeee closeups on their eeeyes as they look at each otherrrrrrr.

3. Sakura: *tear in her eye* *flashbacks to last chapter because that was so long ago* "naruto's resolve is nothing compared to mine (doesn't she mean the other way around? doesn't make sense in context), i thought i was ready but i wasn't, the only thing i can do now is ~~accept that i'll always be in the background and console myself with the thought of going voyeur on their asses once they shack up~~ to believe in them."

In one hand, Sakura is useless again and she knows it, and instead of going "well i'll do SOMETHING" (all right, she just tried that and it backfired pretty nicely) she just accepts that she's useless and will just go and rely on them. In the other hand, believe in THEM. oooooo team seven pings.

I mean, I can understand because Kishi is shafting her right and left as to making an actual impact with her resolve, and after all the hits she's been taking recently -- your village is destroyed! your teacher is in a coma! that old warmongerer who sees your teammate as a weapon is in control! the guy you love went evil for real! naruto has been suffering in silence with his love for you for years, you selfish bitch! -- it's not a surprise that she's been crying so much -- she's always been emotional so that's fairly IC -- or that after being slapped down so hardcore -- hey, you intellectually "knew" that sasuke was evil but then he went and tried to kill you! :DD and now the only teammate you have left is planning to die with him if he can't stop him because YOU can't stop him ~ -- she would go "damn it i can't do anything right and naruto has gotten so awesome recently is there any other choice than to rest on him.

Just, at the same time, while I understand sakura is a character who always had weak sides as well as strong sides, which is what makes her so wonderfully human, which is what makes me love her so much, I wish Kishimoto didn't seem to think it's good character development to contrive scenarios were she gets slapped down for using her strong side and narratively patted on the back when she, out of self-defense and emotional exhaustion, falls back into her passive, insecure, reliant-on-others side.

So far, what happened is pretty much all IC for what we've seen of her before. But it's also pretty much a lot of the passive, insecure side, not so much with the "bite a guy's arm and let him beat me to death rather than let go!!" side or the "oh hey if we torture this akatsuki guy that will be good bait for sasuke-kun" side or the "I inherited this nindo from my master, so you know what i'm gonna answer to that offer to run away!".

4. Kakashi: *DRAMATIC MOMENT* Okay fine, Naruto, ~~you go and hook up with Sasuke~~ Sasuke is all yours. Sakura... ~~take care of my body, okay? wink wink nudge nudge~~ take care of my body, okay? ~~wink wink nudge nudge~~. (narusasu/kakasaku endgame pairings? I could go for that...) *LOOK I HAZ A SWIRLY EYE!!1* I'm taking Madara out before this goes any further!!!
Madara: *tiny anticlimatic panel of not-takng-you-srsly* don't bother, Kakashi, it's too early for a final fight and i'm all haxx0red out anyway.

5. Madara: *hand on sasuke's shoulder* *rub rub knead knead*
Sasuke: Madara... you and I need to talk. ~~about your inappropriate touching, mostly. ffs stop fondling me~~.
Naruto: *swirls away in hazy badly drawn panels yay bring-your-kid-to-work day*

6. naruto: *talks to the swirly thing after it's long gone because he's telepathic like that* "I'm ready when you are, Sasuke. :3" (oooOOOh. >;3 )
Kakashi: *... jeez =____=;;; great time-waster everyone.*

7. sasuke and madara: *entering disturbingly organic-looking cave*

Sasuke: I want Itachi's eyes. ( ... urgh creepy... yet also eeee yes take a piece of your brother inside you to keeeep. also hopefully the pattern will evolve away from that horrible atomic flowergan. DX )
Madara: ...!!! I -- uh, I knew you were going to say that all along, of course. I know everything. haha. ~~oh wow, i thought i was gonna have to sit on the brat and do it myself but no, he goes and asks for it! ahahaha LUCKY.~~ yeah, I could see your vision was getting blurry, too much ~~masturb okay no this joke is overdone~~ susano'o. yeah. But... what changed your mind, O most stubborn one? I'm really friggin curious there. >__>

8. Naruto: *X__X SUDDENLY SLUMPS FOAMING AT THE MOUTH*
Sakura: ... OH SHIT SASUKE WAS USING MY POISONED KUNAI D=
Kakashi: yyyyyeah that's what I was getting at... =____=;;;

Okay, I was expecting it but I still cracked up. It's a bit weird to have slapstick humor so close to the great dramatic reunion but at the same time the manga's been superserious for a bit too long now.

naruto: i feel like i'm dyiiiing
sakura: ahaha ummm you gonna be okay?
DOES HE LOOK OKAY XD XD XD oh those grimaces, so far from serious.
kakashi: *puts karin on his back* blahblah taking you back to Konoha blah don't try anything.
(EEEEE KARIN IN KONOHA EEEEE SAKUKARIN SHENANIGANS???)
karin: ... why would i bother? ~~also, hot man back. ehh, coulda been worse.~~
karin: so he's uzumaki naruto...
(aw hell she's gonna turn All About Naruto, i bet. Another convert... No! Sakura! You have to focus on Sakura!)

9. meanwhile at Pimp Village, Raikage and Killerbee come home~ "yo whassup!"
Omoi: T^T Wahh master Bee we were worriiiiied YOU DICK.
Karui: u__u well he's safe, it's all that matters, right?

10. Hot Raikage Assistant Woman: welcome, no, really -- now REPORT. =__=
Bee: *struts with his new badass sword (careful bee, she's as fickle as the autumn skies! D: )
Omoi: *suitably impressed* :O

11. Aloe-vera guy: *carrying kisame's grinning head under his arm* (... this is fucking creepy yet at the same time hilarious. Has a very Addams Family feel to it.)
Other aloe-vera guy: *burying the body!*
aloe vera guys: *talking to himself. himselves. whatever.* *also, proving that he can't get out of being Mister Explains The Plot To People Who Were On Bathroom Break even when he's alone.*
samehada: *grinning happily with its big chompy teeth* *several panels of closeup on her maw!* DUN DUN DUNNNNNN.

12. OH MY GOD GRINNING KISAME FACE INSIDE SAMEHADA'S MOUTH WHAT WHAT WHAT
SO CREEPYYYYY

kisame pulled it off alright, what the fucking fuck whoa did NOT see that coming. what? no, really. What? did he like, glue his real face inside his sword's?

Oh wait, no, it was zetsu of the convenient powerz. -- wait, zetsu can make perfect duplicates of dead people? now i'm starting to wonder who else he's done that with...

(i admit i am surprised to find myself pleased that kisame is alive. ahh so tricky. it was a little too easy, wasn't it?)

13. blahblah we're so sneaky, let us explain how sneaky.

14. ... is that a waterfall headband? DUDE.
SURPRISE SNAKE ATTACK! oh wow, kabuchimaru, is it your turn to shine? *__*

15. It is! It OH GOD WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO YOUR HAIR YOU LOOK LIKE THE BASTARD CHILD OF FRIGGIN AIZEN AND SZAYEL EXCEPT WITH TEN TIMES THE FABULOUS YOU STOP THAT RIGHT NOW aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaano DX
frrgh.

but LOL at snake makeup eyes + round glasses. that just... uhh... pffhahahaha.

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Here's to hoping Sakura ends up fighting Kabuchimaru. Somehow, somewhere.

It would redeem Kishi a little.

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Double agreed. She needs to get another big fight, seriously, and Kabuto is just up her alley. Sasori was all about poison, Kabuchimaru is all about mad doctoring.
Still, there have been tons of hints that Sakura might end up using genjutsu, and I don't remember her using it even once. What's up with that?

No, it was just said that Sakura was a genjutsu type -- that just means that she would have an easier time with genjutsu than with taijutsu or ninjutsu. She's good at noticing and dispelling them, but she was never taught any. I think it was brought up mostly to cover up for how little she had done before, and to hype "the young generation will be stronger than the sannin" because if she can be as strong as tsunade when taijutsu and (medical) ninjutsu weren't even her easiest topics, then she must rock even more for mastering them anyway! Or something like that.

INSERT KABUCHIMARU LOVE HERE.
YAAAAAAAAAY TEAM7SHIPPING! IT IS A DELICIOUS KARIN, YOU MUST EAT IT HOLY SHIT KAKASAKUKARIN, I SHIP IT HARD NOW.

I was not expecting Kisame to go out as easily as he'd appeared to - even though it feels like a bit of a cop-out, I like this twist.

I also like the return of snakey snake!Kabuto, but I'm more concerned with why he's in Waterfall in the first place. I mean, what's of value there at all? otoh, maybe we'll get to see what Waterfall looks like? I really want that kind of world-building. <33

I dislike the stuff with Sakura there, but I think I'm only as frustrated with her helplessness as she is. Though after this one panel I was left wondering how she thinks the two of them killing each other is a happy ending. I'm still confused by that, actually.

Edited 2010-03-18 00:04 (UTC)

Actually, we've seen Waterfall village before -- in this OVA, and I think after that they appeared in a filler, but I can't remember for sure. I'm wondering if Kishimoto is planning to use the OVA worldbuilding (he's done that before, taking filler he liked. I saw a list somewhere... hm.) It would mean we might see Shibuki, who... was kind of lame actually, but in a "d'aw, what a retarded puppy" way XD; i'm kinda scared that would get him killed though because he was only just barely level with 12yearoldgenin!naruto and sasuke back in the day, sooo... XD

I think the translation is wonky -- naruto isn't HOPING they kill each other, he's just saying if they go all out on each other it's gonna happen since he doesn't intend to run away. I think what sakura is admiring here is the fact that naruto is not giving up and that he's still planning to keep trying to reach sasuke, until he keels over if need be. Also, sasuke more or less accepted his challenge, in his way, and I think she'd notice that. XD

Oh. I never paid much attention to the OVAs when I watched the anime. *looks it up*

...plot-relevant or not, I don't think I like Shibuki much. I'm more of the opinion that the leader should become competent *before* gaining leadership, not through it. Though, yeah, the village set-up seems appropriate/pretty cool/fitting the village name.

If you find that list of filler declared canon, let me know? I'd be interested in seeing it.

There was a Sakura line earlier in the chapter (which you mentioned) about her resolve vs Naruto's, that I presumed was mistranslated. I guess it really isn't a stretch to presume that other odd phrasings could also be mistranslations.

Damn it, asuka, I was already having trouble taking this fight seriously, then you had to point out all the homoerotic undertones.

Kisame! Hurrah! I love that guy, even more so since that one panel where Samehada backstabbed him and he punted it into the air without missing a beat. So happy. Kabuto promises to be moderately interesting as well - wish we had Orochimaru still around, but he'll do.

-- Guile

... you couldn't see the undertones on your own? XDD

The Samehada punting was pretty awesome, yeah. Though by now I think he was already Zetsu masquerading as Kisame... wasn't he? Argh, gonna have to read over that friggin fight to figure it out. Do not want.

Kabuto was always more interesting to me when he was a lackey whose loyalty wasn't 100% sure. Then he became a yes-man lackey and that was boring. Now he's still a lackey, just with delusions of grandeur and a perm; that's not impressive at all. The only thing I liked was that he'd been inspired by Naruto to do that Oro implantation thing, and I found it really amusing that Naruto's influence would have seriously warped results instead of insta-goodness for everyone.

WHAT THE FUCKFUCKFUCK I THOUGHT HE DIDN'T WANT ITACHI'S EYES I THOUGHT HE WANTED NO PART IN IT

FUCK YOU KISHI JUST WHEN THINGS WERE GETTING GOOD

DOES ANYONE CARE ABOUT KABUTOMARU ANYMORE because I do NOT. >.>;;;;

...is it bad that the main thing I got out of this chapter was a fear that Itachi might be confirmed as dead soon?

Also, hello. I am a long-time lurker who just got an account here. Nice ta meetcha. :D

h-he's not dead he's just sleeping. they're just gonna trade eyes so itachi won't be blind either! yes totally. then after the end of the manga they find a way to wake him up! TOTALLY.

Hey there, welcome to the lj of rambly doom~

-petpet- It's okay. It's just an extended nap. Itachi needs his beauty sleep, you know. (I'm personally crossing my fingers for "o hay sasuke this is where i was keeping your brother's bodOHMYGOD WHERE DID HE GO." Or Itachi like... talking to Sasuke through his eyes... somehow... D: Sharingan answering machine?)

I've never really understood why no one just traded eyes instead of killinating each other. Was this ever explained beyond "Madara is an evil bastard who can do whatever the hell he wants ~~because it's convenient to the plot~~"?

Huhu~ Thankies. :3

KARIN IN KONOHA KARIN IN KONOHA KARIN IN MF KONOHAAAAAAA.

That is all.

~~also, creepy sword is creepy, eeeeee.~~

Today, you iz reward for END OF FINALS! The end of the term (and lack of sleeps) only heightens my enjoyment of:

Kakashi: *DRAMATIC MOMENT* Okay fine, Naruto, you go and hook up with Sasuke Sasuke is all yours. Sakura... take care of my body, okay? wink wink nudge nudge take care of my body, okay? wink wink nudge nudge.

(Dude, why can't I get little crossy-outy-ness in my comments? FAIL)

"What? did he like, glue his real face inside his sword's?"
-Eeeheheheeehee. I feel like such a dork but I love the multi-tasking; Same-sword-thingy-hda is a sword and a purse!

end of finals! WOOHOO. GO TO BED. How did they go? ^__^

crossy tags are (s) (/s) or (strike) (/strike). u.u-b

is a sword and a purse!
*cracks up* XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

I wanted to see what your comment would be about Kabu-- ...Kabuchimaru (*dies* XD) Okay I'm not familiar with bleach characters but I'm still laughing ahahaha! XDD I'll remember it for the rest of the day and laugh randomly ahaha~

His hairrrrrr omg. Why did he cut them?

/Sasuke: Madara... you and I need to talk. [about your inappropriate touching, mostly. ffs stop fondling me]./ <--XD WINS.

"OH MY GOD GRINNING KISAME FACE INSIDE SAMEHADA'S MOUTH WHAT WHAT WHAT
SO CREEPYYYYY"

Yep, my reaction exactly.

Always love your comments on the chapters.

Has a very Addams Family feel to it.

*Snort* Couldn't stop laughing at this!

vision was getting blurry, ~~too much masturb okay no this joke is overdone~~ susano'o.

;)

All About Naruto, i bet. Another convert

The Cult o' Naruto~

YOU LOOK LIKE THE BASTARD CHILD OF FRIGGIN AIZEN AND SZAYEL EXCEPT WITH TEN TIMES THE FABULOUS

Ahahaha!!! Hey, maybe Szayel nicked some of Aizen's DNA and whipped something just like kabuchimaru up in his lab a la Mayuri and Nemu?

I'm superglad Kisame is still alive cause a) his death was pathetic and b) I'm still banking on him providing the readers some intel on Itachi as a person, not just the sacrificial lamb

Oh man that would be sweet. The new intel in Itachi I mean. *_* and yes, his death was kinda meh. This makes things better, or at least gives them the potential for it... >__>

Comic is where?

http://mangastream.com/

But! on release day it's extremely laggy and you have to refresh each page a dozen times for it to finally, slowly load. Sometimes it's not worth it. ~~i'm just kind of. You know. Jonesing for my fix at this point.~~

Oh wait, no, it was zetsu of the convenient powerz. -- wait, zetsu can make perfect duplicates of dead people? now i'm starting to wonder who else he's done that with...

--EPIPHANY. Not just dead people; anyone he's met. (This is what I get for applying for dead characters on RP games and going back to read old chapters to make it work.)

*digdigdig*

Chapter 263! Five-point barrier seal. After Gai, Lee, Neji and Tenten pull off the four seals that aren't on the rock wall between Sakura and Sasori (Kakashi gets the fifth before going to chase Deidara), each member of Team Gai is faced with a duplicate of him/herself. When they defeat the clones, they smoosh into this pile of white gunk. I simply assumed, the first time, that these were Deidara clones, because they weren't very distinguishable from his goopy smooshed clay clones. NOW I KNOW BETTER.

...People can say what they will otherwise; man, Kishi is good at plotting out and using powers far, far in advance of revealing them. Like 224 chapters in advance, apparently.

...ooooOOOOH. I never would have made that link. @___@-b

then again, maybe Kishi plotted it the other way around -- the event first, perhaps going with "random earth jutsu for the win!" and then going "hey wait, i could make something out of this"... We'll never know. XD

LOL @ #4! XDDD "~~wink wink nudge nudge~~"

Sasuke: Madara... you and I need to talk. about your inappropriate touching, mostly. ffs stop fondling me.
(*DIES LAUGHING AGAIN*) XDDDD

also hopefully the pattern will evolve away from that horrible atomic flowergan. DX )
More like it'll just add to it.

Okay, I was expecting it but I still cracked up. It's a bit weird to have slapstick humor so close to the great dramatic reunion but at the same time the manga's been superserious for a bit too long now.
Ahh, gotta love the old Team 7.

Oh, I dunno, I thought Kabuto looked pretty hot. ♥♥♥

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