askerian: Serious Karkat in a red long-sleeved shirt (T7_Nostalgia)
askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2010-02-25 02:58 am
Entry tags:

Naruto 484

aw crap I forgot to do last week's. Oh well.

http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/484-60/1



1. Okay, so the sidebar teOHMYGOD SAKURA'S BARE HAND ON KARIN'S BARE, BITE-SCARRED BOOBS

HAS CHRISTMAS COME EARLY

look, look little indentations under sakura's fingers there is ACTUAL PRESSURE ON KARIN'S INNER BOOB.

... Karin has bites even on her actual breasts, like, in the inner parts. Someone's got to have put their face in between them in order to bite down.

eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee. eee. happy thoughts, happy thoughts. I love this chapter already.


Okay, srsly now, the sidebar. "What has Sasuke's transformation done to Sakura's feelings?"

=>1) there is indeed a transformation. Sasuke wasn't always eeeeeebil. (will not debate on how sudden the switch between "i don't even want to kill the elders and suigetsu leave that fodder alone and OMG KARIN LET ME BECOME BLIND TO SAVE YOU" and "you're useless! I STAB AT THEE bwahahahahahahahahaha." was here. It might become a rant of its own later, or maybe even a crack comic. I liek comics.)
=>2) is Sakura FINALLY going to stop loving Sasuke? I mean, she still hasn't, but, you know, she'd never had him try to kill her before, or had to heal someone he stabbed clear through. Good question indeed!


2. I love how Karin is kinda pissed off and kinda sad that she understands exactly how Sakura feels. moments of empathy are PRRT, but karin not WANTING to understand and being rarrr that she does is love.
Sad Sakura face is indeed very sad. T^T-b


3. sasuke: hay kakashi, it has never really bugged me much before if we count it by how often i seemed bothered or mentioned it, but, you know, today I woke up with my dick down the wrong side of my pants. So your eye? uchiha eye. Stop appropriating our culture, bitch. >:E *ROARR!!charge*

naruto is Running. run, naruto, ru--owait, i guess we can also have Itachi flashbacks. if you insist. (mm itachi.)


4. Itachi had indeed foreseen that sasuke might get ragey enough to take sides with whoever he imprinted on first. I guess that duckbutt joke wasn't totally offbase? XD

I like the blank canvas metaphor. "sasuke's heart is like a blank canvas. The right person could paint it whatever color he wanted."
ORANGE. IT SHALL BE ORANGE.

Gaara, Raikage: blahblah sasuke iz ebil u hav to grow up & kill him fr srs, let us tell you AGAIN. Surely THIS time it will stick!


5. flashback!gaara: "think very carefully about what you want to do to for sasuke."

Naruto: "i'll know what to do when I see him again." oooooooooooooooooooo.


6. kakashi: *getting pwned*
sasuke: *even exhausted, still more haxx0red than you!* (but, exhausted. cue panting.)


7. kakashi: "sasuke... your clan and your hatred can't be the only things left in your heart... Look deep inside of you a last time..."
sasuke: "still reciting the same old pleas..."
(this is so trite, even sasuke knows it. oh well. 12 year old boy manga!)
kakashi: "you know what's really there."


8. what's really there: *image of the genins as adorable kids in a group, laughing.*
(pffhahah tenten peeking from the side doing a ^^-V gesture)

sasuke: they're all laughing... *cue rage because they dare to be happy because they don't know what itachi did and they should be devastated at how much he sacrificed, even though they don't know. It's all logical in crazyland, promise.*


9. sasuke: "all i hear now in your laughter is scorn and ridicule, but I'll change it, I'MMA GONNA EAT'CHU WITH MY NOW-FLESHY GHOST SAMURAI, BITCH I'll turn your laughter into screams of anguish! IN MAH BELLY"

All passengers, welcome aboard the crazytrain.
The crazytrain has now left the station.
Arrival to Batshit City in...


halfdead!blood-stained!karin: by the way did you notice this sasuke is not the sasuke you used to know. HINT HINT.
sakura: !!

10. sasuke: *oops premature ejaculati okay no sorry this joke is stupid.

sasuke: *hay wanna see my bonesAlright, that one was worse.

Anyway, Sasuke loses control of susano'o which turns skeleton-like again and eeee gray-hatched half-blind eyes again HOT *__*


11. sasuke: *cannot ogle hot sensei anymore* *nooooo, not noooow*

sakura: *ninja-jumping from one side of the bridge to the other.*
karin: hey we weren't done with the boob massage, it still hurts here, see? D:

sasuke: *eyebleeding* *rubrubrub*
OH GOD WHY IS HE SO CUTE LIKE THAT. something is wrong with me.


12. sakura: *HANGING FROM THE UNDERSIDE OF THE BRIDGE LIKE NINJA* *SNEAKING UPON BLINDSUKE*
kakashi: *SAKURA WHY ARE YOU NOT IN THE KITCHEN*
sakura: "*I won't let you carry this burden alone, sensei!*" sasuke-kun is team seven communal property!

sakura flashback on what she really wanted to tell Naruto on her own, with no interference from the other genin...


13. ... yep, it was "we've decided to kill sasuke" all along. Shock. Can you guys imagine that some people hadn't realized that yet? srsly DX

So then a page of flashbacks, where Sakura reminds herself that this is HER task, she can't burden Naruto with it. Then tinysakura seeing sasuke and going squeeee, and team seven, and then a flashback of sasuke telling her thank you after her love confession.


14. So then she stops with the kunai an inch from his back. *"I thought I could do this..."*

I kinda like this, actually. I never thought she could bring herself to kill Sasuke, always assumed that even if she got to try, at the last second she'd stop. Tadahh. What really pissed me off was that she didn't even get a real fight out of the deal when it looked like Kakashi was going to get one, but, while he did get to use ONE technique, which is still more than her see-through lie and her friggin' kunai, he didn't get a real fight either. So it's not totally horrible. (just quite frustrating.)

sasuke: D: !!! *CHOKES A BITCH*


15. kakashi: *weak from mangekyou* *wobbles!*
sasuke: *steals kunai from sakura! >8(*


16-17. Naruto: *BARGES IN TO SNATCH SAKURA UP*
sasuke: OLE!

Naruto: *STARES AT SASUKE OVER HIS SHOULDER, CHEEK BLEEDING FROM SAKURA KUNAI >:(*


sidebar: "team seven is assembled again! but what is naruto's answer?"

reminder, the question was "what to do about sasuke." He said he'd decide when he saw him again, and he sees him again while he's about to kill their other teammate. seems like a foregone conclusion he'll drop in the towel and go for his blood, because clearly sasuke is unsalvageable now.

This is the ultimate hurdle Naruto has to clear to accomplish his goal of getting team seven back together. The last test to his resolve. It's beet tested by enemies, by sort-of-allies, by his peers and both sensei, by his teammate, he even had fleeting moments of doubt himself. So even if he gets pissed, even if they fight now, even if for a while he loses hope and lets disappointment and rage take over, madara will intervene to save sasuke's ass because he's already got too much of a handicap for a lifechanging beatdown "drop sasuke" won't be naruto's definitive answer.

(therefore there HAS to be something still good inside sasuke, he'll redeem himself, and i still maintain it's very likely an external influence is making him MUAHAHAHA all over the place. he never used to be so unhinged. he's the cool-smirking-when-i-win type when he's sane, remember)

Oh, and there's no way this fight won't get interrupted. u.u; They can't have a proper conversion to narutoism if naruto doesn't come in as the underdog who only wins because he has a better nindo and moral strenght and determination, who cares about those 40544984521 devastating jutsu he doesn't know, bitch, and sasuke is wayy to exhausted for that shit. He even lost his hold on susanoo, while naruto is still mostly fresh.




[livejournal.com profile] sarolynne: All in one place.
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: finallyyyy
[livejournal.com profile] sarolynne: I thought you'd approve of that.
[livejournal.com profile] askerian: T^T now kakashi, summon a bed!

[identity profile] nobody-famous.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 02:13 am (UTC)(link)
I was kind of disappointed that Sakura didn't get to do more, but Sakura never gets to do stuff, so...

But at least now it feels like we're getting somewhere with the manga. For the past year and a half or so it's felt like Kishi has been rushing through to get somewhere. Ever since Jiraiya died it feels like the plot arcs haven't been really developed. I think maybe he was excited to get to superawesome Team 7 reunion? Or am I getting my hopes up?

On a random note, if you google Naruto adultfanfiction, your profile comes up fourth on the list. And you wonder why everyone thinks you're a pervert.

Don't ask why I was googling that though. I was bored. >,

[identity profile] questofdreams.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
"sasuke's heart is like a blank canvas. The right person could paint it whatever color he wanted."
ORANGE. IT SHALL BE ORANGE.


I lol'd

sasuke: *eyebleeding* *rubrubrub*
OH GOD WHY IS HE SO CUTE LIKE THAT. something is wrong with me.


aslifjsie I THOUGHT IT WAS ADORABLE TOO. I wanted to pat his head and hand him a napkin <3

Frankly, I was glad she stopped as well. I never thought she could do it and I didn't WANT her to do. I just wanted her to ACTUALLY PUT UP A FIGHT and PUNCH HIM AT LEAST ONCE >_>:;; But it's little consolation that Kakashi didn't get much of a fight either.

I think it's impossible for Naruto to give up on Sasuke now. I mean... Naruto let Pain go, after Pain had 1. killed Jiraiya; 2. demolished his village; 3. killed (sort of) Kakashi + 3984743 other villagers/ninjas. And Naruto DOESN'T EVEN HAVE BONDS WITH PAIN beyond the book Jiraiya wrote with his name in it. There's no way he's going to give up and decide killing Sasuke is the way to go.

GO NARUTO GO )O)

[identity profile] midnigh-unicorn.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Your last point is entirely valid. Aside from all that, it's a manga for twelve year old, it'll work out xD But I liked reading that, so kudos *gives kuki*

[identity profile] midnigh-unicorn.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Kakashi's right, the good is still inside him, he's just looking at it through the wrong lens. I'm torn between how I'd feel if he was being exterior influenced, because that absolves him of some responsibility and 'makes everything okay' but at the same time, you have a point, he's very unhinged. Maybe subconsciously he needs this extreme reaction to justify his extreme actions and intents.

[identity profile] kitchensink13.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 03:19 am (UTC)(link)
with whoever he imprinted on

*snorts*





[identity profile] flowerflute.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
GALKJFDSJKGDFHJKGJHFDJKGDSHG OH GOD WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN SAKRGHJDFKSAHGKJFDAHGK
gladdecease: (so this is goodbye)

[personal profile] gladdecease 2010-02-25 04:29 am (UTC)(link)
I like the blank canvas metaphor. "sasuke's heart is like a blank canvas. The right person could paint it whatever color he wanted."
ORANGE. IT SHALL BE ORANGE.


The metaphor is a good one (and I agree with your color choice!). The only problem is that Madara's mask is orange too. I think Sasuke'll be painted orange whichever way this turns out. :(
ext_77486: (hell yeah that's hot)

[identity profile] na-no-nai.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 05:24 am (UTC)(link)
*SAKURA WHY ARE YOU NOT IN THE KITCHEN*

Ahahaha. I feel bad for laughing, but that one just killed me.

Karin's boobs. Yes. Best first panel of a chapter EVER. I am just sayin'. And yeeeeah, the bite marks all over? This needs to ficced NOW. *____*

I will admit, I was a little bummed that Kakashi's ... uh, fight? moment? whatever was interrupted so quickly. I mean, yes, Naruto has to come save the day. It's his manga and all, but there are other people already there who are(were) important to Sasuke. For once I would be quite okay with a scene being dragged out a little further before convenient timing no jutsu. And I totally wish Sakura had more time, but I have to admit, what she had was more than I expected tbqh. I'm glad she tried. I'm even glad she stopped herself. I just wished there had been a little more time between that and Naruto swooping in to save her. *shrugs*

All in all, I'm pretty happy with where this is going. Like you, I'm waiting 'til later to see lay judgment on Sasuke's sudden shift to the dark side. :3
phantomshade: (Default)

[personal profile] phantomshade 2010-02-25 05:47 am (UTC)(link)
I like the blank canvas metaphor. "sasuke's heart is like a blank canvas. The right person could paint it whatever color he wanted."
ORANGE. IT SHALL BE ORANGE.


AND PINK. Because Yes.

If anything, the last two chapters have kind of cemented the idea that I've had since the beginning of the manga that Sasuke's problem is unresolved survivor's guilt. That's why he was so obsessed and willing to do anything to get revenge - it's the only thing he was able to cling to to cope with the fact that he lived while everyone else died. In essence, he wanted to kill Itachi as an apology to the rest of his family for not being good enough to die with them (remember the "logic" Itachi gave him for not killing him? Being too weak to be worth killing). Now that he knows the truth he feels even worse about being left alive and he's just grasping at straws to give himself meaning again. And I'm pretty sure Madara knew about this and was counting on such a reaction, considering how blunt he was about revealing the truth and how everything-short-of-camp he is in aiming Sasuke at people/places like a well-primed weapon.

[identity profile] moonylala.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 05:59 am (UTC)(link)
hum, i never thought of his problem in that light before. i always just thought the trauma had unhinged something, and then being left without a strong adult figure to help him cope as a child plus the fact that all the crazies seem to want to mess with him is why sasuke snapped. but, actually, i think the survivor's guilt angle explains a lot.
phantomshade: (Default)

[personal profile] phantomshade 2010-02-25 06:29 am (UTC)(link)
I really only thought of it since I've been developing a video game character for about four or five years now (which is still before I really got into Naruto. I'm a late bloomer) whose primary Character Foil is survivor's guilt. Of course, said character takes hers in the opposite direction of Sasuke's and throws herself into the metaphorical darkness to punish her parents for their perceived abandonment, but the basic principal is the same.
ext_415568: (Asami&Takaba)

[identity profile] prue84.livejournal.com 2010-02-28 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
I like your point.

If this manga goes on like that more, I fear toons of Naruto fans will start a psychologist carreer. *lol*

[identity profile] moonylala.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 05:55 am (UTC)(link)
i actually really like sakura and karin in this chapter. I think they have the most powerful moments. I agree, the moment of identifying with sakura's pain and then the resentment of that from karin was perfect. i actually am starting to like her, where before i wanted to smack her every time she showed up.

and sakura was the only one acting ninja-ish in the whole chapter. ninja do not run head first into a fight going "hay, look at me! i'm going to attack you but first i'm going to let you know about it! surprise!" like kakashi is doing. she was sneaky! i think she came the closest to killing/beating sasuke out of every one because she was smart about it.

naruto just needs to have sasuke kiss and make up already. no more riding the crazy train to batshit city.

My Day Is Now Made

[identity profile] oo-da-lally.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 06:57 am (UTC)(link)
halfdead!blood-stained!karin: by the way did you notice this sasuke is not the sasuke you used to know. HINT HINT.
sakura: !!


Anyone else hear the Metal Gear Solid noise go off in their head when they read this?


Asuka, best review evah btw.

[identity profile] venia.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 08:27 am (UTC)(link)
(HSJDGFJSHGwhy are your reviews so awesome I can't even describe?!*_*)

EHHHH TEAM7!!! :DD I don't care that Madara might appears and snatch Sasuke away (okay I care) as long as I can replay this chapter over and over and write on it.

MUST POST DOUJINSHI RIGHT NOW, WHO WAITS TILL THE WEEKEND.




[identity profile] antigonatic.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 10:40 am (UTC)(link)
I squeed a bit myself, over the title. Finally! The buildup to this has been so strong it was in danger of lapsing into annoying.

Lots of agreeing with you over page one :). Kishi did us some fan service there, finally balancing out the Sasuke/Sai with some Sakura/Karin.
Also agree with the idea that this can't be the decisive battle between Naruto and Sasuke. The battle would be too unimpressive for such a long-awaited one.

IMO, Madara is working his magic on Sasuke. You know, the one he wants to work on the entire world by the end of this? He's obviously strong enough to use that technique on a distraught teen.

Oh well, my new theory is that if Gaara was Naruto's metaphysical double, then Pain was the same for Sasuke. (there are tons of parallels to be drawn between them, obvious enough that I won't go into a rant about it).
Thus, Naruto already symbolically defeated Sasuke. It's proof that it can be done. Now he just needs to repeat that performance while dealing with his own emotions and resent towards someone who personally betrayed him - it's practically a new take on the whole "learn to forgive" theme.

[identity profile] nothri.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 12:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I hate it when I see ways the characters could have won that they didn't use or try. For example, couldn't Kakashi have ended the fight with the Mangekyou by manifesting his 'black hole no jutsu' technique inside Sasanoo and attacked Sasuke directly? And wouldn't it have been smarter to Tsunade punch him instead of trying to stab him? He wouldn't have been able to block that. And if your worried about moral quandaries in killing him, you could always Tsunade smash his arms and legs instead.

I'm digressing. It was still a great chapter.

[identity profile] nothri.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 01:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Incidentally, I have to say I'm extremely upset at Sakura's betrayal here. I know she's hardened her heart and is determined to do what she has to, but that's no excuse to betray her love and affection.

Hinata's tits deserve better than to be abandoned for the first floozy that comes along. Karin no doubt has a lovely chest, that's not in question. But Sakura had committed herself to a set of boobies already, and she shouldn't be cheating on them, even if its to get information out of the enemy.

[identity profile] nothri.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for all the posts. One final, closing thought. I'm not worried about Sasuke trip to loopyville. Naruto will bring him back. I mean...Naruto beat the crazy out of GAARA for crying out loud, and Sasuke is going a little la la right now, but he ain't got nothing on the frothing pile of Batshit Insane our little sandin used to be.

[identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION REUNION

[identity profile] snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
MTE
Edited 2010-02-25 17:41 (UTC)

Batshit City

[identity profile] healer-sayain.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
All passengers, welcome aboard the crazytrain.
The crazytrain has now left the station.
Arrival to Batshit City in...


-snicker- Arn't we all in Batshit City by now? I mean seriously, we're still reading Naruto. We're all past the crazy.

This was hilairous and exactly what I was thinking. I'm muttering to myself the entire chapter, giggling as well. It was awful, yet epic.

[identity profile] nekokriszty.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 04:44 pm (UTC)(link)
The sad thing is, the manga has been so unreasonable lately, I don't even try to understand it and guess what would happen.

Things that make no sense happen, that's what would happen.

My love for Naruto is fading away.............. T_T

(But I still stalk you when you sleep :D)

[identity profile] akapiratequeen.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 05:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I can't help myself--I am totally feeling the love for that moment when Naruto sweeps in and takes Sakura away. GAH I AM A 12 YEAR OLD GIRL AT HEART.

Great summary, thanks for bringing the lulz now and always.

(Anonymous) 2010-02-25 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
sasuke: *eyebleeding* *rubrubrub*
OH GOD WHY IS HE SO CUTE LIKE THAT. something is wrong with me.


That something must also be wrong with me ♥

[identity profile] bookem-dano.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Gah commented but forgot to log in XD
Ah well, you'll see it :3
*always looks forward to your chapter play-by-play*

[identity profile] ennui-demorte.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 06:26 pm (UTC)(link)
i still maintain it's very likely an external influence is making him MUAHAHAHA all over the place. he never used to be so unhinged.

Agreed! I'm pretty sure Madara has been feeding Sasuke crazy-juice. Or Mangekyo could be rotting his brain.


I like the blank canvas metaphor. "sasuke's heart is like a blank canvas. The right person could paint it whatever color he wanted."
ORANGE. IT SHALL BE ORANGE.


I can't stop laughing at this! And in the serious sense, as Itachi meant it, it is so true!! Naruto wants Sasuke to love Konoha as much as he does.


"team seven is assembled again! but what is naruto's answer?"

Hug Him! ~♥~ Sasuke needs some love. Then conk Sasuke over the head with his super-strong-senjutsu!punch, tie him up real good, with blindfold, drag his crazy-ass somewhere isolated and deprogram him! .

[identity profile] charcoalcat.livejournal.com 2010-02-25 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Hey, somewhat off topic, but distantly related: what the hell ever happened to Kabuto and his crazy Orochimaru face? Is that still a loose end or has it come up somewhere in the chapters I've missed? Also, are we 100% sure Sasuke eradicated ALL of Orochimaru from inside himself? Not to cheapen his insanity and excruciating inner pain, but I think I'd kinda like that as a relevant factor in his actions. Something to soften the blow as it were.

...also, you are very funny lady. ^__^
ext_407641: (looneyville)

[identity profile] shewhoflies.livejournal.com 2010-02-26 03:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Scarily appropriate icon!

Mostly I was just happy that Sakura got so close. I was afraid she would be pwned like a pathetic thing, but she actually came across as somewhat competent.

[identity profile] audreytiphaine.livejournal.com 2010-02-27 11:29 am (UTC)(link)
HOMG. HOMG. I HAVEN'T BEEN READING SINCE, LIKE..... AUGUST. BECAUSE. JUST. PAINFUL. and i kinda fell on this... (fear not! i know what chapter reviews are! i know they contain spoilers! in fact, as far as reviews go, yours made me LMAO :D) so, definitely not posting to go D:, actually i'm posting to go T_T because seriously. so sad. and now i should probably go check out all those chapters i haven't read yet.... DX SO MUCH READING TO CATCH UP WITH.

audrey

(er. yes. that crazy person yelling at you about your ofic through questy last night O.O i like Reiyel.)
ext_415568: (Asami&Takaba)

[identity profile] prue84.livejournal.com 2010-02-28 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
4. Itachi had indeed foreseen that sasuke might get ragey enough to take sides with whoever he imprinted on first. I guess that duckbutt joke wasn't totally offbase? XD

Oh. My. God. You just killed me! =))