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askerian ([personal profile] askerian) wrote2009-04-17 07:23 am
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Naruto 444


-Page 1: ... I know it's supposed to be dramatic but bwahaha naruto's >8( face.
Aaand either it's mixed with Nagato's flashbacks, or kishi got lazy art syndrome it's just a theoretical representation of what Naruto has to avenge and not a literal one, or Naruto really is remembering Pain's memories. I'd like to be sure one way or another already!
... Also that panel of the Pains crouching all around Jiraiya's body looks like they're going to eat him.

-Page 2: "If you kill Nagato it won't change anything, it'll just make you feel better!" ... That's a good goal in itself, honey. >_____>

-Page 3: And Nagato keeps trying to mindfuck Naruto with words... Hah. It's kinda simplistic, oh well. XD

-Page 4: ... *__* t-trying to control... Kyuubi!Sage!Naruto... ahahahahahahahaha. Even Naruto alone would be hard, but oh man.
I know it's supposed to be cool, but the cross-shaped pupil makes me wonder WTF Sakura is gonna have to get if she wants to be a matching set with her teammates. First there was the flowergan, now the frogfoxgan... Where do you go from there? XD

[livejournal.com profile] sarolynne: She should stay natural pupiled. To stand out in the crowd. |D

-Page 5: Nagato is officially pathetic. That "and...?" panel, he looks just. I don't know. Like he finally realized that no, he isn't going to win, and he's not really a god, and then he starts doing the "let's smile nervously and make him talk" thing and just... Pathetic. (also how the fuck does naruto talk so easily when he just got impaled through the chest. Oh shounen manga.)

-Page 6: mmmm roarrface.

-Page 7: aww Jiraiya flashback.
Punch to the face? *hopes* Don't stop before you get at least one punch in, just one plz~

-Page 8: ... aaaand of course he stops before contact to speak some more. I understand the revelations he's having are important for Naruto's personal development... But I still wish he'd hit that crazy asshole at least once! >(

-Page 9-10: Blahblahblah pain blah. "You're not god." ... because you are? =___= auugh die already

-Page 11: YOU WANT TO HEAR HIS WHAT. NO NARUTO, NO, JUST FUCKING PUNCH HIM. OR BURY HIM ALIVE AND LET HIM ROT IN HIS CORNER OF DELUDED SELF IMPORTANCE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TOO. NOTHING COULD JUSTIFY THAT BULLSHIT.

-Page 12: "I have two great sources of pain" ffs just shoot himmmmmm. let me guess one of them is your erectile dysfunction, right. overcompensating much. and the other one is that yahiko died before you could tap that hot nubile ass. but you discovered that with him as a corpse it wasn't as good! Yeah, that's my new canon. it's more interesting.

Blahblah flashback of WOE and DRAMATIC SHADOWS.

-Page 16: Oh look, I'm surprised. They were konoha ninjas! So yeah, pain's motive is TOTALLY altruistic and based on ALL COUNTRIES who have the ninja system, because the system is what's flawed! ... especially Konoha's because they accidentally killed my parents but that's not personal at all, nooo, as a god I am above that. (shit, if his parents had said "we surrender, we're civilians" then the Konoha guys were goody-goody enough they would have never killed them.)

-Page 17: n'aww crying kid whose parents just got accidentally killed! his reaction does make sense... Oh look, suddenly I care! :O (not really. It would take a bazilion metric fuckton more than that, for srs.)

Shiiiiit the way it's going we've got at least two or more flashback chapters coming, nnnnooooo. End that bullshit already. DX

[identity profile] sarolynne.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Look at it this way--it's not like Pain was going to die before his flashback. So it's getting that out of the way.

[identity profile] sowell.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 07:20 am (UTC)(link)
Haha, I like the flashback chapters. But this isn't the flashback I want. Give me Yahiko, damn it. As annoying as Pain is now, they were sort of cute when they were kids.

[identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
Flowergan. Lols. Thank you, for being the only other person I know to look at Sasgay's new eyes and go "OMG FLOWERS LOL." *hug*

KyuubiSageNaruto = awesomeness. >.>

Speaking of phallic symbols and overcompensating - that rod. That Nagato speared Naruto with. Did you notice exactly where he shot it from? XDDDDDD

OMG. POOR NAGATO, YOUR PARENTS ARE DEAD. BOOHOO.

SO ARE NARUTO'S. And And Haku's and Gaara's and Neki's and Kakashi's and Sasu-

...Okay. Maybe Sasuke isn't the best example of forgiveness. But still.

Funny, actually. Sasuke and Nagato seem to have a few similarities. -_-' They both can't freakin' get over their stuff and let everyone else get on with their lives.

[identity profile] rosalui.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 07:42 am (UTC)(link)
PS - Your icon still traumatizes me.

[identity profile] selenia-actimel.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 11:20 am (UTC)(link)
The phallic symbol... I noticed it... XD

[identity profile] foenixfyre.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I have stopped reading most of the manga chapters, because I like your updates BETTER! Waaaaaaay more entertaining!

[identity profile] mya-in-ab.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 06:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I know! I have to open another window with the manga update and read them together ^_^
ext_77486: (crazy enough)

[identity profile] na-no-nai.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 01:53 pm (UTC)(link)
That flashback was so freakin' ridiculous. UGH. I'm trying to not rant about it, cause if I do, I WONT BE ABLE TO STOP. D:

PLZ, KISHI, JUST BRING SASUKE BACK. NARUTO NEEDS MOAR GAY. LIKE THE REAL KIND, NOT THAT 12 YEAR OLD 'GAY AS IN RETARDED' SHIT.
tephra: (kitty squid)

[personal profile] tephra 2009-04-17 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Shit, if his parents had said "we surrender, we're civilians" then the Konoha guys were goody-goody enough they would have never killed them.

Or done basically anything other than throw themselves at the ninja. Charging a soldier always means "I'm a civilian, don't kill me!" :P

[identity profile] snowdevil-crow.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Needs moar Nagato/Yahiko/Konan sexy fun times.

[identity profile] nemi-chan.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 06:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Considering Yahiko's body was made the first (first made and first in his affections) amongst Nagato's bodies and how much Nagato [i]probably[/i] cared for him... Well I think it's likely that the started the conversion into a New Realm. Maybe human realm, even though it's the third realm.

Such trauma potential.

[identity profile] nothri.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
"... Also that panel of the Pains crouching all around Jiraiya's body looks like they're going to eat him."

Man, knowing this guy, they probably just took him to cold storage and left him there. If Pain gets out of this shit, count on the next "super gravity man" body he makes to be Jiraiya. He seems to have a hard on for the morbid creepy nonsense.

"-Page 2: "If you kill Nagato it won't change anything, it'll just make you feel better!" ... That's a good goal in itself, honey. >_____>"

He could, in one move- cut off the head apparent of the Akatsuki (sure, Tobi's pulling strings behind everyone's backs, but no one but Sasuke knows he's anything other than a dumbass, and it'll create confusion in the ranks....plus, it says to anyone familiar with Pain 'yeah, that nine tails can totally kick god's ass'...and spares anyone from being crushd under Pain's particular brand of insanity...and prevents a giant super weapon from destroying everyone...AND avenges a bajillion deaths....and makes you feel better. Multitasking no jutsu.

"-Page 3: And Nagato keeps trying to mindfuck Naruto with words... Hah. It's kinda simplistic, oh well. XD"

He seems to have lucked out and found the one character on earth who'd actually listen to his bullshit and feel guilty about being angry with the guy that murdered your home town.

And yes, there is a parallel here with Sasuke and his clan and his outlook versus Naruto that I'm sure gets important later, but its being given to us with all the subtlety of a nuclear bomb....literally, in Pain's case.

"I know it's supposed to be cool, but the cross-shaped pupil makes me wonder WTF Sakura is gonna have to get if she wants to be a matching set with her teammates. First there was the flowergan, now the frogfoxgan... Where do you go from there? XD"

Oh, I know! Refined choji recipe super pill formula plus Tsunade chakra forehead collection technique equals medical nin supersaiyan mode.

Or, more likely, not, because she's a girl and in this series girls are good for healing, worrying/mooning over males, talking about flowers, impregnating, and if we must kicking ass when there aren't any male characters around to kickass for them. Oi, Japan....

"-Page 5: Nagato is officially pathetic."

I can't be te only one who finds it anticlamatic that the last "boss fight" involves a wheel-chair bound terminally cancer patient...or whatever. And no, 'chakra control' does not count, because Charles Xavier does the whole 'wheel chair bound mind control' thing better than you could ever hope to.

"-Page 8: ... aaaand of course he stops before contact to speak some more. I understand the revelations he's having are important for Naruto's personal development... But I still wish he'd hit that crazy asshole at least once! >("

Agreed. Reminisce with Tsunade about it later. Don't share personal cuddle time insights about your sensei with the psychotic mass murderer. That's not only bad timing, but a terrible idea in general: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/HannibalLecture

"-Page 9-10: Blahblahblah pain blah. "You're not god." ... because you are? =___= auugh die already"

Hey Pot! This is the kettle! Your black!

"-Page 11: YOU WANT TO HEAR HIS WHAT. NO NARUTO, NO, JUST FUCKING PUNCH HIM. OR BURY HIM ALIVE AND LET HIM ROT IN HIS CORNER OF DELUDED SELF IMPORTANCE, THAT WOULD BE GOOD TOO. NOTHING COULD JUSTIFY THAT BULLSHIT."

No, its perferct. Everyone with a flashback dies soon thereafter unless they are Sasuke. If we get this out of the way, we can skip it in the midst of beating the crap out of him later.

"-Page 16: Oh look, I'm surprised. They were konoha ninjas! So yeah, pain's motive is TOTALLY altruistic and based on ALL COUNTRIES who have the ninja system, because the system is what's flawed! ... especially Konoha's because they accidentally killed my parents but that's not personal at all, nooo, as a god I am above that. (shit, if his parents had said "we surrender, we're civilians" then the Konoha guys were goody-goody enough they would have never killed them.)"

Mmmm....I keep getting this 'Japan emotional state after Hiroshima/Nagasaki' subtext from all this. Could be reading too much into it.

[identity profile] nemi-chan.livejournal.com 2009-04-19 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
It might have been more redeeming to Nagato and the story in general if They WEREN'T Konoha nins and he decided to do Konoha first because he needs the ninetails and to bring 'peace' to his beloved sensei's beloved village.

"Yes, I really do think I'm doing the right thing," and not "I'm doing it for revenge on the whole wide world but saying it's for the greater good."

[identity profile] kittychan1986.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
LOL at the Sakura eye thing...I thought the cross eyes looked kinda neat, but I think he and Sasuke are having an eyeball contest of some sort at this point. Sakura gets to be the judge, so she has to stay neutral.

and

GODDAMNIT NARUTO KILL HIM ALREADY! HE KILLED JIRAIYA, MIGHT YET HAVE KILLED KAKASHI, KILLED SHIZUINE, BLEW KONAHA BACK TO THE STONE AGE, STABBED HINATA (She might be dead for all you know!) AND KICKS PUPPIES!!!! Not the time for meaningful connections with badguys. Make him a bloody smear on the wall, if his whore interferes, burn her like the horribly racist psycho book that she is, and sort out what you're feeling after! You have all the moral ground in the world to stand on here, and you're not using it. I will be so pissed is Pein get's to take the Itachi Cop-out. 'Sasuke didn't kill him, he just died.' Blagh. I want Naruto to turn this guy into a bloody smear. This guy is evil, he's killed how many people because of a mistake? And I'm pretty sure he turned those two starving ninjas inside out, so the revenge has already been had, clean cup, move down. Any pity I might have had at any point for Nagato has completely evaporated. Now he's just trying to make excuses. This chapter actually made me angry. I know Naruto wants to actully find an answer, but Pein's answer is wrong, you know his answer already, kill everything until everything left bows down to you. That will never be Naruto's answer. Naruto answer is to break the rules.

I also just want Pein to be dead already. He's lived too long. (And I want Sasuke back, but you know....))

Sorry...I ranted.....I swear I twitched during the reading of this chapter, I normally like it when Naruto tries to reach out. But this has gone far past the point of 'Let's bring them to our side' Pein has already admitted that he knew he was being used and was ok with it, because he was a True Believer. Kill him and wash your hands of the issue, Naruto.

[identity profile] uminohikari.livejournal.com 2009-04-17 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the dramatic shadows! They're...dramatic! /sarcasm

[identity profile] nilladriel.livejournal.com 2009-04-18 12:59 pm (UTC)(link)
It's so weird. Normally woobie flashbacks are loved. (Gaara anyone? Or Sasuke? Or Neji?) But Nagato's such a pathetic villain no one gives a fuck, lawl.

(Anonymous) 2009-04-18 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
So Nagato's first source of pain, his parents getting killed by ninja, totally fails compared to Sasuke's clan being killed by his brother. That's one down.
His second will probably be something like "everybody hated me as a kid cuz I was weird", which will be pwnd by Naruto's childhood trauma.
Then, his "kill people" reasoning is downed by Gaara's "kill to exist".

The guy's just one step behind on the sob-story backgounds...