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[askerian]

Wow. I'm personally, and rather virulently hated, by anonymous people (or an anonymous person with multiple IPs). Not even for fandom stuff, either, but, like, personally. Ô_o It's obvious I've been taking over the internets with my spammy horribleness and my daring to exist and they were totally unable to, like, avoid me. (if I eyeroll any harder I'm probably going to injure myself. Jesus.)

(though that "and you think sasusaku will be canon too!!! DDD:" tacked on at the end of that first one makes me lol quite a bit. All the things you could hate me over, and you choose to hate me because I can't see that naruto and sakura's love is true and pure like harry and hermione's no offense intended to either harryhermione shippers or sane, nonrabid narusaku shippers, I couldn't resist. ♥. yeah, sure, I believe you, it's totally because I'm me, and not at all because I dare to not ship what you ship, and I talk about it. Le gasp. XD Also lols at the "omg you write cartoon porn, and by the way this is a horrible insult". Dude, how do you know it even exists if you aren't in fandom yourself? And you've got me rather well-researched for someone who can't stand me. Is hanging out around people whose very existence you utterly despise your secret hobby or something? You need to write more boyporn, seriously.)

Also, the mary-sue in my fics is totally Sasuke. It's so obvious to me, I wonder why people don't call me on it. XD

Good try, regardless. Keep moving people, no drama to see here~ ♥

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

like harry and hermione's no offense intended to either harryhermione shippers or sane, nonrabid narusaku shippers, I couldn't resist. ♥


....what?

[askerian]

Humor, dear. It seems to me the harry/hermione shippers were rather virulent in their certainty that their ship would become canon, no questions asked. There were even many clues for the pairing in the books. It didn't happen.

There might be clues for narusaku in the manga, but there's just as many for sasusaku, so thinking that people are "blind" or "deluded" because they interpret very subjective "proof" differently is rather... rabid.

[ni-assa.livejournal.com]

I am AGAST, really, wtf is going ON with people? *scratches head*

[askerian]

*shrugs* they're bored? And petty. Ehh, who knows. D:

[sparklemagpie.livejournal.com]

Aw, no DRAHMUH!? ;_;

What about snickering? Can there be snickering? Maybe with some pointing tossed in there for variety?

Pretty PLEAAAAAAAAASE?!

[askerian]

Bah, and then they'll jump on their high horses and go "ZOMG SHES THROWING HER MINIONS AT US!! UNFAIIIIRR!!" or something. I can hold my own, promise. XD

You may snicker if you wish, lovely. u.u

[j-ecrirai.livejournal.com]

I like to think these were fake flames because they're very... uh, timewasting. Who bothers to post things like that?
Oh and Sasuke is your Marysue? Huh, I missed that. I was leaning towards the possesed Naruto as your counterpart. Heh. Oh and for the retards I'll get in first then they can just shut up. 'Ewwww you think you're a boy, you're sick.' *hack hack, spit* Got that out, just like a hair ball really.
Oh and cartoon porn is the best because everyone can get in and the most improbable things could happen, (like say two guys having sex with the same girl, at the same time, using the same, uh 'space',) because they're only cartoons.
Personally I read your work so avidly because you don't ship NARUHIN or SASUHINA, she's too pure to share and that's just no fun. And hello T7=LOVE! Like totally.

[askerian]

I wonder what I did wrong with that post, that attracted them and no other post. It's not like I don't leave anon comments on permanently. O_o Maybe it was the "IRONY AHAHA SHE WILL NEVER GET THAT THOSE ARE REAL FLAMES WE R SO SMART N SNEAKY. (but we have to do it together, right? cause alone is scary. D:)"

Yeah, Sasuke is totally my Sue. The worst thing is I'm totally serious. I relate to his way of dealing with stuff way too much, sometimes I wonder if maybe I think I get him so well because I just push my thought processes on him. XD (Kyuubi is my inner asuka. yeah. that's totally it. u.u-b)

Actually two boys and one girl like that is possible in real life! Just, apparently, you've got to be a sex professional for it or something. XD; Because ze stretching, it just does not happen v. easily.

*snerk* Aww. Hinata would be fun to share precisely because she'd be all pure and virginal and squeak-blushy... >D

... too bad i'm not especially interested in writing her character.

♥

[ryouseiteki.livejournal.com]

*huggles like mad*
They're just jealous they can't write boyporn as good as you and have no minions of their own. :DD


Good thing you froze comments or they'd be eaten alive. xD

[askerian]

XD; I froze comments precisely because of the minionny army.

It's kind of a waste that I have the army, and no will to actually use it. Though sometimes it's tempting, but that is the path to Fandom_Wank's halls of lame fame, and I can do without that. XD;

[tephra]

Bah, anyone tossing around furry as the ultimate insult has to be new to the internet or just took their first peek out from under their bridge. They are, quite literally, ten years too late on that one.

*gets her cane so she can tell the brats to get off her fandom lawn... and smack the ones that are too slow*

[askerian]

Yeeeeah, just a bit. The funniest bit is I'm not even identifying as a furry. I like some of the ideas, think that paws are aesthetically interesting, and I find some of the parallel-society possibilities intriguing, but I really don't identify as one. So that's one hit missing the target liek whoa. XD

ahaha grandma tephra. Go, go, super-grandma~

[granate.livejournal.com]

That reminds me of the best insult the Clueless girls could come up with: You're a virgin who can't drive. *world ends*

[askerian]

*snerk* "

Clueless girls? What's that, a movie?

[(Anonymous)]

I don't ship NaruSaku, you witless hack. I couldn't care less which two fictional characters you want to write fucking. The humor is in the fact you can't imagine your Sue character (Sakura) not ending up with the token anti-hero nearly everyone in this fandom drools over.

"He has to give Sakura her happy ending!11!!"

No, he doesn't. It's not going to happen. Not because "Sasuke must end up with ____!", but because there is nothing in the manga that suggests it will happen.

And yes, you are pathetic. In a personal sense. You just suggested writing porn about a comic aimed at 12 year-olds is the solution to... who the hells knows. But no, I don't need to write boyporn. You need to write less. Maybe if you spent less time writing about fictional characters fucking on the internet, you might get some yourself.

On the other hand, your delusions are rather amusing, so by all means, continue to be a animu livejournal whore. :)

[askerian]

You care a little much, for someone who thinks people who care too much about cartoons are pathetic. Did I step on your internet puppy or something? :D

[mitsuhachi.livejournal.com]

I don't know, asuka. I just, I always find myself kind of wondering, when people post stuff like that, like... Don't you have anything better to do? That is, if so and so is so lame and pathetic, like, why are you bothering to even tell them that? There's so much shiny, both on the internet and off, that I just... have a hard time figuring out what the point is to wasting your time on someone you dislike. Don't they know where the back button is?

[askerian]

Who knows. :| I can't wrap my mind around this way of thinking, and I don't really feel like bothering.

Oh well, if that amuses them. ^^

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

OMG, SASUKE AND NARUTO KISSED IN CANON, THEREFORE THEY WILL END UP TOGETHER!!!

Sorry, you fail.

*de-lurks momentarily*

[aurorn.livejournal.com]

*is amused by the above wank* It is a nice feeling when people feel so strongly about you, isn't it?

I decided not to participate in the "flame war" because I couldn't think of anything amusing enough to say, but I must say you do attract the crazies very easily, don't you?
It makes my day to read these things (and your stories).

One day, they'll invent an anti-crazy spray or something. Though that would make things less interesting...
*goes back to lurking*

Re: *de-lurks momentarily*

[askerian]

DDD:

You find my pain entertaining, don't you?

SO CRUEL. *doesn't love you no more*

[na-no-nai.livejournal.com]

LOL Someone had nothing better to do on a Saturday night, I see. Maybe little anony-mouse should take its own advice and get a life. XD

[askerian]

*curls up on and loves* ^^

[monique-27.livejournal.com]

Asuka...I...oh my bloody goodness! *glomps you*

Those were two of the most ridiculous things I've ever read. I thought they were a joke - part of the fake flame war - and then I saw the replies frozen, and I read the above comments, and...I just don't know what to say. It doesn't make sense to me. I missed where you said your words, preferences, and opinions are absolute, and anyone who disagrees is an idiot who should go fuck themselves with a dull spoon and die - because, if that didn't happen, where is all this coming from? You've only ever opinion-shared, always respecting others' opinions, and giving us fabulous fanfiction. If you write something someone doesn't like, can't they just ignore it? I wasn't aware that you were holding people against their will, with a gun to their heads, forcing them to read your livejournal - which is your space to say whatever the hell you want - opinions, shipping preferences and fanfics included.

I happen to like NaruSaku...and HarryHermione. *lol* I also like SasuSaku...actually, there isn't much I don't like [It's fandoms and people that I dislike on occasion, not characters and series]. I especially like NaruSakuSasu, which is how I found you [*adamantly denies being one of your minions*] and I'm glad I did. You've always been respectful to me - which is something rarely found in any fandom, but especially in Naruto-fandom.

And, for whoever didn't know, there a reason this (http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/index.php/Animu) is called "encyclopedia _drama_tica". Kthanx.

*huggles Asuka*

[askerian]

It's alright, hon. It kinda made me go "whut" at first, but I figure they must be very bored and very petty, and seriously who cares about the opinion of someone who's so gleeful at the thought of getting to be ugly. -__-;

*secretly kinda likes harry/hermione too. but harry/ron/hermione = even better. XD

[book-people.livejournal.com]

...I'm sorry, I've just never understood the absolute driving need to tell others that they suck, precisely because everyone is entitled to his or her opinion. I mean, part of what makes the internet so interesting is the meeting of the minds, so to speak. You are connected to people all over the world, many of whom have completely different opinions than you, and you can choose whether or not to listen to/read what he or she has to say.

Which brings me to another point: why in God's name are you on anon's f-list if she doesn't like what you write? Why doesn't she fill her f-list with things she wants to read? Is she, like, masochistic? Because really, there's a very easy solution to your amazing boyporn and/or opinions offending her delicate sensibilities...

People are so wierd. *grin* I love it.

Adi

[askerian]

THIS IS A GREAT MYSTERY. D;

♥

[sailor-comet.livejournal.com]

Wow. There's just... really no words for my reaction to those flamers, except probably some pity. XDb Well, I think you're a cool kid on the internets, so. Keep on truckin'~

[askerian]

♥

*trucks* u.u

(frozen comment)

[(Anonymous)]

Sasuke was so out of it at that point I don't think he'd have reacted if Jiraiya had glomped him then. A better example of that sort of thing would be that he helped Naruto back to Tsunami's house during the Wave Arc.

I'm not denying that Sasuke likes Sakura. Sasuke knows what it's like to feel like you're not up to par. I think he has sympathy for her in that regard. But again, I don't think it's anything romantic. Plus, the bench thing is kind of silly. Sasuke isn't completely heartless. It would take a special kind of person to leave their friend lying in the road. Hell, for that matter, he could have done it simply to avoid being followed. A girl "sleeping" on a bench looks a lot less suspicious than one lying in the road.

Now, if I were to argue that Sasuke has romantic feelings for anyone (not that I am), I would say that you should look at his mental collage of his fond memories of Naruto when Naruto asks why he saved him. The kiss scene is in there. Now, why might Sasuke look back on that with fondness? He also leaves Naruto alive when he has a very good reason not to. Only later when he's trudging away does he decide, "Itachi, I'm not gonna be like you!", which imples some sort of deep feeling, romantic or otherwise. Let alone the Sakura/Naruto rival comment in the Kishimoto interview.

You seem to think I'm arguing for NaruSaku or something. I'm not. For that matter, I'm not arguing NaruSasu, either. I think they're equally implausible, albeit for different reasons.

(frozen comment)

[askerian]

You know, when I freeze a thread and say I'm not interested in continuing it, it means I'm not interested in continuing it. It doesn't mean "quick, open another thread so you can get the last word in". If you want to debate pairings, go to a forum. Thank you.

[(Anonymous)]

YOU DON'T CONTROL ME

>:)

[gothicstargrl.livejournal.com]

Aww, who's a widdle troll? Is you a cute widdle trollikens? Is you? Ooh, yes you is! Trollikens want a biscuit? :D

Please forgive me for butting in, Asuka-san, but I just had to do it. The urge was too strong. XD

[traveling-storm.livejournal.com]

It never fails to amuse me, the lengths people will go to, to bring someone else down. Like they have nothing better to do then to attack someone's interests just because they differ from someone else's. There's obviously some bad parenting involved in that girl's life - I know my mother always taught me' if you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all.' Someone needs a spanking, and NOT in a good way. ^^

[phlegmaticphrog.livejournal.com]

I hate to say it, but perhaps you should disallow anonymous commenting. People normally hold their tongue better when they know they'll be accountable for their words.

[askerian]

No can do, I have regular commenters who don't have a lj, i'm not kicking them out because some idiot got in. It really doesn't bother me enough to lock up anything. ^^

[gothicstargrl.livejournal.com]

I dunno if it's sad or strange or what, but when Troll-chan said writing smut for a "comic aimed at 12-year-olds" is pathetic, I immediately thought in response "They think that's bad? Obviously they haven't heard of Rainbow Brite porn."

(Google Images: 1! Star-chan's retinas: 0! It's a K-O! And that would be the last time I try to look up anything from my 80's childhood.)

[mitsuhachi.livejournal.com]

Rainbow brite is the shit, man. She and Indigo were like that. *makes the crossed fingers sign* HAWT.

(lol.)

[annwyd.livejournal.com]

How cute! A Sasuke-basher found your LJ! And even has it friended! They must love pain even more than I do. ♥

[windandwater.livejournal.com]

... Asuka, when did it get all crazy up in here? Is this what happens when I don't spam your LJ enough?

D:

[bootoye.livejournal.com]

Methinks someone was just waiting to get your number!!



Oh yeah...I really do see that your Sasuke seems...hmmm ^^ ROTFLOL!!!




I don't agree with calling someone a virgin as an insult...actually I think only a virgin would do that!!! Your anonymous ""friend"?" is revealing some serious frustrations here....maybe she/he wants some pr0n and doesn't know how to ask.><

[crackhuntress.livejournal.com]

Ma'am, I just want to say I'm so sorry about Ms. Anonymous. I'm absolutely mortified at her behavior as a human being, and on her behalf I'd like to apologize for being an utter ass about something so trivial. Though I can almost guarantee she will continue to bitch and moan for a very long time and ignore the fact that despite the most well-written, well-intentioned argument, trying to turn someone from their 'ship is like trying to move a mountain with your bare hands, all I can offer you is my sincerest apology. I truly, truly hope she will find the humility to roll over and die in the next hour or so, but until then, I am so sorry.

[j-ecrirai.livejournal.com]

Dear Anonymous,
I completely agree that based on the evidence given in the manga, and the anime (depending on which you take as canon) there is very little encouragement for either the NARSAK, SASSAK, or NARSASSAK (or however you wish to organise the names)relationships. None the less, I feel you have failed to understand a key point with 'shipping' as it is called. Asuka is a 'shipper', everyone on this site is a 'shipper', that means we promote and prefer certain relationships between characters chosen from a source of fiction.

Here I quote wikipedia, I have chosen wikipedia because 'shipping' is a very new term, there simply isn't a better explanation for this internet phenomena than the one found here. Of course I am quoting only a small part of the actual entry, but it is this sentance which I believe most directly address' your issues.

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"Shipping can involve virtually any kind of relationship — from the well-known and established, to the ambiguous or those undergoing development, and even to the highly improbable and the blatantly impossible. People involved in shipping (or shippers) assert that the relationship does exist, will exist, or simply that they would like it to exist."

I would like to draw your attention to the parts which clarify that the 'shipper's' chosen 'ship' can be "blatantly impossible" and can be no more than what "they would like to exist."

For a shipper, the likelihood of their 'ship' becoming canon is not important, the vital thing is that they believe and that they can convincingly portray that 'ship' in their own world.

Each annd every 'shipper' has chosen the characters they prefer and joined them romantically as they have wished. There are of course 'shippers' who 'ship' better than others, and relationships which are easier to accept than others.

Your problem with Asuka's stories seems to be that you cannot accept the possibilty of a NARSAS or NARSASSAK relationship. This is your choice, perhaps you see other relationships as more likely,in which case feel free to 'ship' it, but don't try and critise another's chosen fandom because they are circular arguments as noone is pretending that these stories are canon.

Good 'shippers' collaborate with what is canon, using loopholes, missed scenes, unexplained ambiguities, in short the endless possibilities of what might be to create their version of the original fictional world. Bad 'shippers' give no explanation of how the characters come together, and most of the time do not even bother to keep the characters, in character.

There are many ways that a 'shipper', or fanfic writer as they're often called, can leave 'canon'. Often a writer choses a moment in the story and says 'what if this did or didn't happen, what would the characters do?' Sometimes they choose to focus on minor characters, inventing lives and troubles for these otherwise 2 dimensional creatures.

A very popular way of leaving canon, without leaving canon, is to write a continuation fic. these fics continue after the official ending of a popular piece of fiction. For a more mainstream example of this we can use the thousands of Star Wars novels which have been written around the movies.

To add to the complexity of this phenomena, we have the AU stories. These 'Alternate Universe' stories can be the bane of all 'shippers' as they almost always go wrong. The original characters are taken and placed into a completely new environment to play out the original story with new twists. Sometimes this is done very well, with solid characterisation and believable translation of key story points, often this is not the case.

Obviously I have only scratched the surface of the entire 'shipping' universe, but I hope that now you understand a little better the world into which you have unwittingly stumbled. If reading the results of some individual's admittedly overheated, wild imagination bothers you, I invite you to leave by the door (don't let it hit you in the butt on the way out), but if you think you might like to check around and find some 'shippers' that 'ship like you', come on in - the water's fine.

[viper-s.livejournal.com]

May I just say, thank you. You have made the internet a better place, even if only by a small margin. It's people like you, people who are open to explaining, understanding and calmly pointing things out that may have been overlooked, that make the world of fanfiction, shipping and forums an easier and nicer place to spend one's free time.

So, thank you for saying things in an articulate and patient manner, you have this internet user's gratitude.