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Harry Potter sleepyramble...
My spoilery thoughts on yaoi
I'm not even all that much into the fandom anymore, but... well. I had to have it anyway. .____.
-NEVILLE. *SQUEE* how fucking cool is that. I always liked his "could have been the boy who Lived if..." aspect, and![[livejournal.com profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/external/lj-userinfo.gif)
joisbishmyoga converted me from "hmm" to "heee" before the book, but. DUDE. WOW. KICKASS.
-I've been expecting Hermione/Ron since book 2 (classical signs of developing attraction, what with the pulling of pigtails and other cliche patterns of "married" bickering between them) and really not caring, but this book has made me feel that they were more than two archetypes conveniently shoved in each other's arms, but two people in love, who still made mistakes and were still confused and yet still honestly liked and appreciated each other's faults and qualities. And their love did not make them see nothing but teh otp (yay for Ron leaving her behind when he decided to leave, because he was leaving the group and not leaving her exactly, and yay for them still caring about Harry) Also omg finally actually getting to SEE that Hermione loved Ron back and was not just having a bad case of hormones over one of her guy friends -- in the previous books it was easy to see what he saw in her, but I never really saw her seeing him back, just being jealous and possessive when he wasn't looking at her anymore.
-Luna was charming and cute and funny, while still maintaining her "too odd to be normal or make most people comfortable around her" thing.
I loved her bedroom. Socute ;__; She always acts so happy and unburdened, but at the same time knowing that she valued gaining real friends so much... awww. I still remember her understated "sometimes my housemates hide my things" because it sounds so matter of fact but really she was bullied, and before HRHr and Neville and Ginny she really had no true friends. (also, the Ravenclaw common room password kicks ass.)
-... I think Harry had more chemistry with her than he did with Ginny, actually, because he seems to genuinely like Luna for who she is -- whereas we're told that he wants to get in Ginny's pants, but I have no clue *why*. It really comes across as stupid hormones and shoehorned "well um they're OTP because I say so and also lol shes just like Lily and Harry is just like James SOPERFECT YEY" (... i'd call that creepy actually, but what do I know.) Also WTF why do I only remember Ginny in the book as 1) leading Harry to her bedroom to give him his birthday present (okay it was a little sad, poor kids), 2) being randomly jealous and possessive about Cho (that really felt like a OOPS I FORGOT THEY WERE OTP WHAT WITH GINNY RLY NOT MATTERING AT ALL TO TEH PLOT LET ME SLIP IN A SUBTLE REMINDER THAT SHE'S A POSSESSIVE H0R WHO DOESN'T TRUST HIM NOT TO CHEAT) and 3) various moments of Harry whining that she's so pretty and perfect and woe, he cannot touch, only jerk off to her glorious memory. If she's so important to Harry, why -- argh, nevermind. I have nothing against the ship in general, but the way JKR wrote it really sucks. Ginny could have become a real person if only JKR had built onto that "was possessed by Voldie" moment, but for most of the books she really was nothing but a carboard cutout. T_T
-The book really felt VERY LONG to me the whole time they were hiding in the forest. *flops* but the rest of the time, ooohhh plot and action. That was one tense, fast-paced book, or maybe I just read it fast.
-All that stuff about wands and broom-riding and Draco, ahahaha. She's throwing the shippers a bone, isn't she. She's got to be. X3
-I loved the Malfoys, because they're snobby, racist Pureblood assholes who only think about themselves, but -- ahh, even if they've done bad things and have some quite disgusting beliefs, they still really love each other and care and protect each other and awwww. They might have been evil to other people, but Lucius and Narcissa are good parents and it's obvious they count on each other as well. (also lol at the "they think they're gonna get lynched but everyone ignores them" at the end, it's fitting for a family that was so LOOK AT US SNOBBING YOU, PEASANTS at the beginning.)
-... SNAPE. ToT
-I really. Really. Love what happened with Dumbledore. He spent six books being, not a character, but the archetype of the perfect, noble, wise, all-knowing sage, complete with long white beard. He wasn't a person. This book (and okay maybe it started in HBP a bit, but.) managed to kick him off his pedestal of Wisdom Incarnate in a pretty harsh way and then build him back up as a real person, with real faults (not just "cares too much" or "too intelligent for us mere mortals so he had to benevolently watch over us all from above") who made real mistakes... And then he managed to rise back up to being noble, wise, almost all-knowing -- and not perfect, and that made all his wisdom and nobility (and secret slytherin-ness >3) really mean something. It made him human.
Also, I loved Aberforth, who was bitter and had seen too much and grown in his brother's shadow, and yet he was still strong in his own way that had nothing to do with Albus at all.
(but umm. Kendra Dumbledore. Wut. I had visions of american vampire slayer exchange students. Which umm didn't really work as Albus' mom. XD)
-Kreacher's story awww. ;__; Not sure i'm entirely okay with how fast he goes from HATES YOU to YAY MASTER HARRY *apple pie* even though, yeah, he was pretty starved for lurve, but awwww him and Regulus ;__;
-Um dobby WTF? Harry doesn't think about him even once for the whole book, and then he appears, saves them from Certain Doom, and gets killed in under ten pages, prompting Harry to emo for a few pages and get a Plot-Moving Revelation. MMMMM DEUS EX MACHINA.
-I loved Remus when he appeared. He was awesome, a little battered but still caring, had some emo, but kept going anyway. I loved Tonks when she appeared -- spunky, funny, and a kickass cop-woman. I even liked the thought of them together... before they actually got together.
Because it meant suddenly Tonks became so emo her patronus changed, not over the death of her cousin, but over not being lurved back -- hello sudden obsessive stalker tendencies, and Remus went from "um no I don't want you" to "oh well if you insist" -- no real building at all, and it was presented as OTP. And in this book we only saw a few bad sides -- her being radiant about being married and preggers, him being miserable and her not noticing, which made her come across as the kind of creepy selfish bint who didn't care what he felt because SHE had Her Husband and Her Baby (and who cares about her career, right? Not her), and then Remus was all "omg I made a mistake marrying her" especially since it seemed to come so soon before the official announcement that she was expecting -- was he perhaps marrying her because she was pregnant? Felt like he was doing his duty and didn't really want to marry her, at least not just yet, but he felt like he had to and that made him miserable.
Now if the ship had been presented like that in the book, kind of a bit hurried and with issues, it would have been great, but sometimes it read as if JKR wanted us to think that Tonks' emo over Remus was sooo romantic instead of pathetic, and that Remus' all but biting off his own hand to get the hell away from his marriage was him just lacking confidence in his impending fatherhood, awww but don't worry remy you'd be a great dad.
Then they came and died together offscreen in a totally "umm okay I needed to up the body count and I've been too lazy to write them happy together from the start anyway, so why not" way. And I hadn't been emotionally connected to them, and then Harry just pushed them in the background and I just never gave a damn. Their death got a big "that's nice *turns page*" from me. Bleh.
I suspect there will be fanfic soon, that will fill in the canon cracks and write the ship in a deep, poignant, we-have-issues-and-we-both-hurt-but-we-will-grow-past-them way that will make the ship work, but alas. My interest is good and dead. It should have happened in the book, damn it.
-SNAAAAAPE.
-NEVILLE. LUNA. THEY SHOULD BECOME MINISTER OF MAGIC IN TANDEM. YES. (and have sex. of awesome. because they are awesome. yes.)
-Snape. Okay. Snape. he's my favorite character, and I have so many thoughts about him in this book I don't know where to start.
-- Thank you Rowling because I was so afraid that everyone who saw depths and complexity and layers to that man were just reading too deep into a children's book (and an author who isn't really given to morally nuanced characters) and were going to get a "lol no u silly bint he wuz evil from teh start. u blind r wat." BUT NO. WOOHOO!!
--... So Snape... lived just besides Lily and Petunia's as a kid. UMM OKAY. I could buy that if they were all wizards because they tend to gravitate together, but for muggle-born and people living with muggle-born? The muggle world really is NOT that small. That's a mighty big coincidence there, son. No wonder no one guessed the Snape Lily connection went back that far.
--Aww Petunia being jealous. Made total sense. (while i'm at it, DUDLEY. niiiice.)
--Actually kinda not surprised or all that "aww" about the snapelily being canon. Because it was fanon for so long, and ... the canon isn't that much better or original, and probably even less. It would be a more interesting plot twist if fandom hadn't called it ages ago... so in the end I'm left going "lol JKR reads fanfic lol" even though i'm sure she came to the idea independently. XD
--Snape asking Harry to look at him before he died. God. Snape you fucker, you're making me tear up. T_T
--Lily dropping Snape like that and not accepting his excuses? Dude, they've been friends for how long and she doesn't know he lashes out when he feels humiliated? WTF bitch. >:( I think less of Saint Lily now, and that makes Snape still loving her for so long afterwards with so little resentment less believable.
--Doe patronus. ;_____; (but umm James had a stag and Lily had a doe? .... LOL HOW AMUSINGLY COINCIDENTAL.)
--That severitus thing has just gained 2158407612 points of potential-canon-ity.
--Snape/Harry as a ship has gained 14774251002102115587 points of messy fuckedupness. ...AWESOME.
-- I had more stuff but i can't remember.
-"Will it hurt?" ... wahh harry why do I only start to want to squish you *now*. T.T
-BLIND DRAGON. socool.
-The wand ownership deal was cool, the "harry talks Voldy to death before killing him" less so. It lessened the tense, fast pace and impact of the scene.
-Neville. That calm belief that Harry would come and save them that led to him just accepting and dismissing everything thrown at him by his enemies, and becoming an awesome resistance leader of his own right -- a better leader than Harry himself apparently X3 Harry's developing into more of a "do it myself" loner -- and then charging Voldemort and then drawing the sword of Gryffindor and then chopping off Nagini's head like he's been handling that sword his whole life. Oh. God. *fans self*
If there's a Gryffindor's Heir in the school, it's got to be Neville.
Also, Nev's gran = ♥
-And the famous epilogue.
... I could say it reads like it's been written by an unimaginative 13 year old, it's so unoriginal and cliche I could hurl, and the writing standards are a lot lower than usual for Rowling, which is a lot because Rowling isn't the best writer (awesome storyteller, but wordsmith, not so much), but I won't. u.u (:p) Instead, I will just LOL a lot.
James Potter. Albus Severus Potter. Lily Potter. LMAO WHAT. How unique and original. (and creepily incestuous for James and Lily -- hell, the severyslily bit is also LOLworthy. As to the middle kid, OH GOD THE MENTAL PICTURE WHY. Also yay foreshadowing of another "YOU COULD BE IN SLYTHERIN TOO JUST LIKE ME" kid. Except he wouldn't be; we all know it's okay to have slytherin tendencies of ambition and sneakiness, as long as you're actually not one because real Slytherins are always self-serving cowards, and apart from Severus, who was a horrible asshole either way, the cowardly teacher who replaced him, and the kind of pompous and goes-with-the-current-power-no-matter-my-ideals painting guy, they're all evil to boot. but nevermind.)
That epilogue sucks. It's so childish and indulgent and it's not even well-written. All we learn is that LOL THEY BRED AND NOTHING ACTUALLY CHANGED. We don't know if the world became a better place. We just know they cloned themselves and now the little remixes of their parents are going to rehash canon, and that's such a staple of Sue stories I can't read the epilogue without cringing.
Oh well. The rest of the book had bad points too, but in general it was really rather good.
snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape. ;;
I'm not even all that much into the fandom anymore, but... well. I had to have it anyway. .____.
-NEVILLE. *SQUEE* how fucking cool is that. I always liked his "could have been the boy who Lived if..." aspect, and
joisbishmyoga converted me from "hmm" to "heee" before the book, but. DUDE. WOW. KICKASS.-I've been expecting Hermione/Ron since book 2 (classical signs of developing attraction, what with the pulling of pigtails and other cliche patterns of "married" bickering between them) and really not caring, but this book has made me feel that they were more than two archetypes conveniently shoved in each other's arms, but two people in love, who still made mistakes and were still confused and yet still honestly liked and appreciated each other's faults and qualities. And their love did not make them see nothing but teh otp (yay for Ron leaving her behind when he decided to leave, because he was leaving the group and not leaving her exactly, and yay for them still caring about Harry) Also omg finally actually getting to SEE that Hermione loved Ron back and was not just having a bad case of hormones over one of her guy friends -- in the previous books it was easy to see what he saw in her, but I never really saw her seeing him back, just being jealous and possessive when he wasn't looking at her anymore.
-Luna was charming and cute and funny, while still maintaining her "too odd to be normal or make most people comfortable around her" thing.
I loved her bedroom. Socute ;__; She always acts so happy and unburdened, but at the same time knowing that she valued gaining real friends so much... awww. I still remember her understated "sometimes my housemates hide my things" because it sounds so matter of fact but really she was bullied, and before HRHr and Neville and Ginny she really had no true friends. (also, the Ravenclaw common room password kicks ass.)
-... I think Harry had more chemistry with her than he did with Ginny, actually, because he seems to genuinely like Luna for who she is -- whereas we're told that he wants to get in Ginny's pants, but I have no clue *why*. It really comes across as stupid hormones and shoehorned "well um they're OTP because I say so and also lol shes just like Lily and Harry is just like James SOPERFECT YEY" (... i'd call that creepy actually, but what do I know.) Also WTF why do I only remember Ginny in the book as 1) leading Harry to her bedroom to give him his birthday present (okay it was a little sad, poor kids), 2) being randomly jealous and possessive about Cho (that really felt like a OOPS I FORGOT THEY WERE OTP WHAT WITH GINNY RLY NOT MATTERING AT ALL TO TEH PLOT LET ME SLIP IN A SUBTLE REMINDER THAT SHE'S A POSSESSIVE H0R WHO DOESN'T TRUST HIM NOT TO CHEAT) and 3) various moments of Harry whining that she's so pretty and perfect and woe, he cannot touch, only jerk off to her glorious memory. If she's so important to Harry, why -- argh, nevermind. I have nothing against the ship in general, but the way JKR wrote it really sucks. Ginny could have become a real person if only JKR had built onto that "was possessed by Voldie" moment, but for most of the books she really was nothing but a carboard cutout. T_T
-The book really felt VERY LONG to me the whole time they were hiding in the forest. *flops* but the rest of the time, ooohhh plot and action. That was one tense, fast-paced book, or maybe I just read it fast.
-All that stuff about wands and broom-riding and Draco, ahahaha. She's throwing the shippers a bone, isn't she. She's got to be. X3
-I loved the Malfoys, because they're snobby, racist Pureblood assholes who only think about themselves, but -- ahh, even if they've done bad things and have some quite disgusting beliefs, they still really love each other and care and protect each other and awwww. They might have been evil to other people, but Lucius and Narcissa are good parents and it's obvious they count on each other as well. (also lol at the "they think they're gonna get lynched but everyone ignores them" at the end, it's fitting for a family that was so LOOK AT US SNOBBING YOU, PEASANTS at the beginning.)
-... SNAPE. ToT
-I really. Really. Love what happened with Dumbledore. He spent six books being, not a character, but the archetype of the perfect, noble, wise, all-knowing sage, complete with long white beard. He wasn't a person. This book (and okay maybe it started in HBP a bit, but.) managed to kick him off his pedestal of Wisdom Incarnate in a pretty harsh way and then build him back up as a real person, with real faults (not just "cares too much" or "too intelligent for us mere mortals so he had to benevolently watch over us all from above") who made real mistakes... And then he managed to rise back up to being noble, wise, almost all-knowing -- and not perfect, and that made all his wisdom and nobility (and secret slytherin-ness >3) really mean something. It made him human.
Also, I loved Aberforth, who was bitter and had seen too much and grown in his brother's shadow, and yet he was still strong in his own way that had nothing to do with Albus at all.
(but umm. Kendra Dumbledore. Wut. I had visions of american vampire slayer exchange students. Which umm didn't really work as Albus' mom. XD)
-Kreacher's story awww. ;__; Not sure i'm entirely okay with how fast he goes from HATES YOU to YAY MASTER HARRY *apple pie* even though, yeah, he was pretty starved for lurve, but awwww him and Regulus ;__;
-Um dobby WTF? Harry doesn't think about him even once for the whole book, and then he appears, saves them from Certain Doom, and gets killed in under ten pages, prompting Harry to emo for a few pages and get a Plot-Moving Revelation. MMMMM DEUS EX MACHINA.
-I loved Remus when he appeared. He was awesome, a little battered but still caring, had some emo, but kept going anyway. I loved Tonks when she appeared -- spunky, funny, and a kickass cop-woman. I even liked the thought of them together... before they actually got together.
Because it meant suddenly Tonks became so emo her patronus changed, not over the death of her cousin, but over not being lurved back -- hello sudden obsessive stalker tendencies, and Remus went from "um no I don't want you" to "oh well if you insist" -- no real building at all, and it was presented as OTP. And in this book we only saw a few bad sides -- her being radiant about being married and preggers, him being miserable and her not noticing, which made her come across as the kind of creepy selfish bint who didn't care what he felt because SHE had Her Husband and Her Baby (and who cares about her career, right? Not her), and then Remus was all "omg I made a mistake marrying her" especially since it seemed to come so soon before the official announcement that she was expecting -- was he perhaps marrying her because she was pregnant? Felt like he was doing his duty and didn't really want to marry her, at least not just yet, but he felt like he had to and that made him miserable.
Now if the ship had been presented like that in the book, kind of a bit hurried and with issues, it would have been great, but sometimes it read as if JKR wanted us to think that Tonks' emo over Remus was sooo romantic instead of pathetic, and that Remus' all but biting off his own hand to get the hell away from his marriage was him just lacking confidence in his impending fatherhood, awww but don't worry remy you'd be a great dad.
Then they came and died together offscreen in a totally "umm okay I needed to up the body count and I've been too lazy to write them happy together from the start anyway, so why not" way. And I hadn't been emotionally connected to them, and then Harry just pushed them in the background and I just never gave a damn. Their death got a big "that's nice *turns page*" from me. Bleh.
I suspect there will be fanfic soon, that will fill in the canon cracks and write the ship in a deep, poignant, we-have-issues-and-we-both-hurt-but-we-will-grow-past-them way that will make the ship work, but alas. My interest is good and dead. It should have happened in the book, damn it.
-SNAAAAAPE.
-NEVILLE. LUNA. THEY SHOULD BECOME MINISTER OF MAGIC IN TANDEM. YES. (and have sex. of awesome. because they are awesome. yes.)
-Snape. Okay. Snape. he's my favorite character, and I have so many thoughts about him in this book I don't know where to start.
-- Thank you Rowling because I was so afraid that everyone who saw depths and complexity and layers to that man were just reading too deep into a children's book (and an author who isn't really given to morally nuanced characters) and were going to get a "lol no u silly bint he wuz evil from teh start. u blind r wat." BUT NO. WOOHOO!!
--... So Snape... lived just besides Lily and Petunia's as a kid. UMM OKAY. I could buy that if they were all wizards because they tend to gravitate together, but for muggle-born and people living with muggle-born? The muggle world really is NOT that small. That's a mighty big coincidence there, son. No wonder no one guessed the Snape Lily connection went back that far.
--Aww Petunia being jealous. Made total sense. (while i'm at it, DUDLEY. niiiice.)
--Actually kinda not surprised or all that "aww" about the snapelily being canon. Because it was fanon for so long, and ... the canon isn't that much better or original, and probably even less. It would be a more interesting plot twist if fandom hadn't called it ages ago... so in the end I'm left going "lol JKR reads fanfic lol" even though i'm sure she came to the idea independently. XD
--Snape asking Harry to look at him before he died. God. Snape you fucker, you're making me tear up. T_T
--Lily dropping Snape like that and not accepting his excuses? Dude, they've been friends for how long and she doesn't know he lashes out when he feels humiliated? WTF bitch. >:( I think less of Saint Lily now, and that makes Snape still loving her for so long afterwards with so little resentment less believable.
--Doe patronus. ;_____; (but umm James had a stag and Lily had a doe? .... LOL HOW AMUSINGLY COINCIDENTAL.)
--That severitus thing has just gained 2158407612 points of potential-canon-ity.
--Snape/Harry as a ship has gained 14774251002102115587 points of messy fuckedupness. ...AWESOME.
-- I had more stuff but i can't remember.
-"Will it hurt?" ... wahh harry why do I only start to want to squish you *now*. T.T
-BLIND DRAGON. socool.
-The wand ownership deal was cool, the "harry talks Voldy to death before killing him" less so. It lessened the tense, fast pace and impact of the scene.
-Neville. That calm belief that Harry would come and save them that led to him just accepting and dismissing everything thrown at him by his enemies, and becoming an awesome resistance leader of his own right -- a better leader than Harry himself apparently X3 Harry's developing into more of a "do it myself" loner -- and then charging Voldemort and then drawing the sword of Gryffindor and then chopping off Nagini's head like he's been handling that sword his whole life. Oh. God. *fans self*
If there's a Gryffindor's Heir in the school, it's got to be Neville.
Also, Nev's gran = ♥
-And the famous epilogue.
... I could say it reads like it's been written by an unimaginative 13 year old, it's so unoriginal and cliche I could hurl, and the writing standards are a lot lower than usual for Rowling, which is a lot because Rowling isn't the best writer (awesome storyteller, but wordsmith, not so much), but I won't. u.u (:p) Instead, I will just LOL a lot.
James Potter. Albus Severus Potter. Lily Potter. LMAO WHAT. How unique and original. (and creepily incestuous for James and Lily -- hell, the severyslily bit is also LOLworthy. As to the middle kid, OH GOD THE MENTAL PICTURE WHY. Also yay foreshadowing of another "YOU COULD BE IN SLYTHERIN TOO JUST LIKE ME" kid. Except he wouldn't be; we all know it's okay to have slytherin tendencies of ambition and sneakiness, as long as you're actually not one because real Slytherins are always self-serving cowards, and apart from Severus, who was a horrible asshole either way, the cowardly teacher who replaced him, and the kind of pompous and goes-with-the-current-power-no-matter-my-ideals painting guy, they're all evil to boot. but nevermind.)
That epilogue sucks. It's so childish and indulgent and it's not even well-written. All we learn is that LOL THEY BRED AND NOTHING ACTUALLY CHANGED. We don't know if the world became a better place. We just know they cloned themselves and now the little remixes of their parents are going to rehash canon, and that's such a staple of Sue stories I can't read the epilogue without cringing.
Oh well. The rest of the book had bad points too, but in general it was really rather good.
snaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaape. ;;
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