askerian: ~The Return of Plagiarist-chan.~

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@ 2007-01-17 10:48 am UTC

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~The Return of Plagiarist-chan.~

So there was this girl, who copypasted The Night's nc-17 version on ffnet and affixed it with the astoundingly witty summary "Sasuke, Sakura, and Naruto go drinking at night, just for naruto to spike their drinks with viagra. What happens when three's company? Threesome the fun! Also... They went UNPROTECTED! R&R or no cookie 4 u!"

She pretended her classmate did it, I sent her an email with a sigh-y, "yeah right, just write your own stuff and I'll crit it for you, hopefully you'll improve ~~or stop writing~~" tone. My plan was to be smiling, fair, and helpful, preferably until she choked on it.

Instead she deleted all of her stuff, changed her name, and disappeared. Okay. If you insist.

Until today, where I received a PM from a name I don't know. ("Fallen Uchiha Angel", except with creative punctuation. *rolleye*) The entirety of the email: "do you beta?"

And then I get an author alert for the same chick, who went ahead and posted her first chapter, and I realize that she didn't even change her profile and OH RIGHT so that's why I have her on alert! bleh.

... it's so utterly horrid I don't know where to start. It's mostly spelled fine, I can give her that much. But that's it. It's like a bad, childish fanfic summary of every characterisation I hate. It doesn't make any. ANY. sense. And it has ANs in the middle of the story, and weird paragraph breaks, and of course which fanfic would be complete without the author having a chat with her character. =____=;

Also, it's ItaSaku, and the way I hate the most, IE: "well Sasuke sucks, Itachi is better, I'm going to Akatsuki for no reason because Konoha sucks". THE INTARNETS ARE LAUGHING AT ME. T__T

So it looks like I have three choices.

-be polite, fair and helpful but it looks like I'll choke first,

-reply to her PM with "don't you mean 'Hello, how are you, I hope I'm not bothering you, I'm sorry I stole your story, would you mind taking a look at my story?'" and then see what to do from there -- only problem, if she apologizes then I'll feel forced to help her and it's visible that she has no earthly clue of how a good writer works or what IC and believable mean,

-IGNORE. But then I go back on my word.

...DILEMMA.

Opinions? ;_; (oh and if you happen to find her on ffnet, feel free to offer concrit, but stay polite please. I don't condone flaming. Besides it would be rather like shooting fish in a barrel. It's not sporting. XD)

edit: what do you people think of "That depends. Are you going to take the comments I make seriously, or are you going to play the "but my classmate wrote it so it's not my fault" card whenever I say something you didn't want to hear? Because I don't want to waste my time giving you concrit you're not planning to use." ?

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	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 11:01 am UTC (link)
	I AM SO TEMPTED. Do you wanna see it? XD You wouldn't flame it, right. >_> It's so deliciously "but--wait, what--NO D:". >D (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

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	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 11:37 am UTC (link)
	http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3346084/1/ IF ANYONE FLAMES HER I SHALL BE VERY DISPLEASED KTHNX. è.é (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject des-butterfly.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 05:22 pm UTC (link)
	...WHY WOULD SAKURA GO JOIN THE AKATSUKI? D: (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject mikkeneko.livejournal.com 2007-01-18 03:24 am UTC (link)
	Because she's being unappreciated! The ninjas at Konoha are just not sensitive and attentive to her emotional needs like... the akatsuki... would be? I got nothing. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject lukita.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 10:55 am UTC (link)
	Make her work for it, you might have offered to beta for the 'original' girl, but not this 'Fallen Uchiha Angel'. You can claim you have no idea who she really is because of the interweb. XD (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 8 comments) (Show 8 comments)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 11:03 am UTC (link)
	Ahahahaha. That's a nice idea. "I only beta for people I offered first. I don't recognize your name, did I tell you I would at some point? Please refresh my memory." CONSIDERING. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

	no subject mikkeneko.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 11:03 am UTC (link)
	I second this idea. :3 (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 11:06 am UTC (link)
	hee. Waiting for a third vote. Any other suggestions? ^__^ (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject trishalynn.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 12:09 pm UTC (link)
	Unless it's too late, I third this option. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject urplesquirrel.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 12:08 pm UTC (link)
	Thirded! (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject lukita.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 11:37 am UTC (link)
	Plagiarist-chan: But don't you remember me~? I'm your bestest got caught in ten seconds pritty-princess-plagiarist-chan. Also... I still can't say sex without BLUSHING! I'm such a bad girl. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 11:41 am UTC (link)
	... >D oh, that would be so awesome. If awesome means hilariously fucked-up, that is. checks urban dictionary ... close 'nuff. XD (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject lukita.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 12:17 pm UTC (link)
	... I just read the words vomit she calls fic. What does she want help with first? Where to find the spell check? Maybe you should just beat over the head her with a copy of Strunk and White's Elements of Style, it'll be easier. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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joisbishmyoga.livejournal.com
2007-01-17 10:55 am UTC (link)

Pretend to have fallen for her name-change trick -- she might actually be ashamed of herself for the plagiarism. Unlikely, but might.

Inform her that polite requests get one freebie beta (ONE), but you ARE going to be as harsh on her as you would be on yourself. Repeat the warning several times, with various humble phrases, and provide ample space for her to click out no-harm-no-foul.

Beta. Be as free with scathing commentary as you want. Spork the basic scenario, the characterization, the spelling, the grammar, the A/N's, the pointless self-insert chat. REVEL IN YOUR EVIL AND HARD-WON GOOD WRITING SKILLS.

If she returns to ask for a second beta, she's a masochist.

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	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 11:05 am UTC (link)
	... XD hehh. That's all kinds of tempting. Alas, maybe a bit too evil. I like the idea of one freebie beta. But she didn't really ask all that politely, she really just said "do you beta?" ~__~ (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject joisbishmyoga.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 11:24 am UTC (link)
	I just saw the snippet down below. Please ignore my previous suggestion; the work isn't nearly good enough for that. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject runespoor7.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 11:10 am UTC (link)
	Tell her that ItaSaku is one of the things you won't beta. Pro: you won't waste your time on it. Con: ...it lacks style, funny and possibilities for future gloating. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

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askerian
2007-01-17 11:15 am UTC (link)

Yeah, but.

I don't really have a problem with the PAIRING, I just think it shouldn't be trusted in the hands of imbeciles. And.

... Well.

"Sakura... You're leaving?" Even Naruto could tell, by the heavier-than-normal load she was carrying. She caried all of her memories with her,
since it may be the last time she would return to Konaha. Especialy for where she was going.

"Why do you care?! My life has been torn apart, day after day. Why should i wait anymore, if I know he would not come back!" Sadness was on her face.
She was one the brink of tears.

"You will become a missing-nin! Why? Why Sakura-chan? Just... Move on. Where would you go anyways?"

Sakura turned, and again started to head towards the giant gates ant gave a last remark.

"To... the Akatsuki..." She spoke just loud enough to hear, if not otherwise incomprehensable to those around her besides Naruto.

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	no subject joisbishmyoga.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 11:24 am UTC (link)
	Uh huh, SURE the guards on the walls and at the gates can't overhear that. And as for Naruto, uh, NOT TACKLING HER RIGHT THEN AND THERE, hogtying her, and toting her right back to Tsunade to get whatever genjutsu Sakura's under un-jutsu'd... YEAH RIGHT. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

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askerian
2007-01-17 11:49 am UTC (link)

And then she goes to the Valley of the End (It's the only way out of fire country, after all, don't cha know?) and the Akatsuki who were lurking there (why? uh. they just were.) go all "hurk hurk woman" and Itachi decides to kidnap her before she could tell them she was looking ~~for Itachi to sex her up like Sasuke didn't~~ to join them.

THERE MIGHT BE RAPE IN HER FUTURE. DUNDUNDUUUNNNN.

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	no subject runespoor7.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 11:30 am UTC (link)
	~~It's still a way to avoid that nightmare? Self-preservation?~~ In other news, my brains have now leaked out of my skull. and yet, can't look away from above snippet ...Right. lukita's suggestion is thirded, or whatever's the count at now. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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maldoror-gw.livejournal.com
2007-01-17 01:13 pm UTC (link)

'"You will become a missing-nin! Why? Why Sakura-chan?'

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY??? NOOOOOOOOOO!!!

SOrry, couldn't resist.

If you ever do get around beta-ing this, just stick to basics. CUt out ellipses, learn how people REALLY talk, think What Would Sakura Really Do? and leave it at that. No use prolonging the pain...

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	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 05:28 pm UTC (link)
	i'm not even sure she'll grasp the basics. ~_~ Butyeah, i'm going to do it ONCE and then no more. Nngh. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject na-no-nai.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 03:01 pm UTC (link)
	I don't really have a problem with the PAIRING Yeah, but she doesn't know that, right? It seems like the easiest out to me. I was going to suggest it, but I've been beaten to it. :3 (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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freaky-zero.livejournal.com
2007-01-17 11:51 am UTC (link)

Well, since she played the "my buddy card" you could always tell her that you're too busy to beta, at the moment, but you could pass it along to "your friend" who loves to and has no purpose in life other than beta-ing. Say that your friend is kind of harsh, but an awesome beta and then if she gives it to you to pass along, rip it to shreds?

I mean, I don't read much Naruto fic or write it at all (though I am following the translated manga ♥) but, ignoring the spelling errors, the characterization alone from the excerpt above is enough to make me wince.

Uhm. Yeah. *goes back to lurking, now*

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	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 12:05 pm UTC (link)
	XD That sounds amusing. Bit devious, but ehh. Hrrm. I shall consider it~ The characterization is nonexistent. she relies on the blandest cliches possible. And then there's the plot devices. nnngh. x_x ♥ (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

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questofdreams.livejournal.com
2007-01-17 03:39 pm UTC (link)

I guess number 2 would be the best way to go. Also, apologies don't always fix things. I'm not so sure I'd be so nice to someone who blatantly stole my fic and pretended it was hers before throwing excuses at me when challenged. But remain polite, if nothing else, but turn her down b/c she certainly hasn't extended the same gesture to you.

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	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 04:44 pm UTC (link)
	... You make sense, yeah. ~__~; (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject crazy-toffee.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 04:14 pm UTC (link)
	Er... tell her you think the story 'needs tweaking' and the characters 'seem off', but her spelling is good. Recommend that she joins a beta-ing comm because you are too busy with your regular betas cough cough real or not. XD In other words: WEASEL out of it. (Reply to this)

	no subject drich.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 04:27 pm UTC (link)
	delurk Asuka, YOU are an internet weirdness magnet. And you entertain in so many strange and wondrous ways. sporflesnort Please don't ever change. ^_^ (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 04:43 pm UTC (link)
	... ;___; YOU ALL LAUGH AT MY PAIN. ♥ u.u (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject elict.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 05:12 pm UTC (link)
	I'd say to go for the second option. She's been incredibly rude to you, and even if it would make you feel like you're going back on your word, I still don't think that she decerves to get away with it that easily. Nope. (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 05:23 pm UTC (link)
	Hrrm. You're probably right. But leaving such a sucky fic on the net unchallenged, when she's INVITING me to point out what's wrong with it? It's tempting. nngh. I still can't decide. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject des-butterfly.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 05:32 pm UTC (link)
	Make her go here: brutal_critters and then watch the lulz. XD (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 7 comments) (Show 7 comments)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 05:48 pm UTC (link)
	SNRK oh man, that would be cruel. If only I wasn't so cough kind-hearted. ... >_> considers (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 6 comments) (Show 6 comments)

	no subject des-butterfly.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 06:06 pm UTC (link)
	Waitwaitwait...Fallen Angel Uchiha? Why do I know that name? (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 5 comments) (Show 5 comments)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 06:09 pm UTC (link)
	Maybe because every dramatic little twit uses a variant of it. Besides it's Fallen Uchiha Angel. With special punctuation. Totally different! XD (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 4 comments) (Show 4 comments)

	no subject des-butterfly.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 06:15 pm UTC (link)
	lol there should be a survey that collects all the names of bad Naruto fic writers and see how many of them are varients of "Fallen Angel Uchiha's Black Desperate Rose Sharingan Dark Velvet ~<@ ". Then again, I can't talk. I named myself "desolate butterfly". XD (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 3 comments) (Show 3 comments)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 06:18 pm UTC (link)
	XD;;; Aww. It's not quite as overused as the rest, really. At least she didn't spell it angle. It's so. friggin. hilarious. to see a "black angle of despair", or "marina-cyndee, kakashi's Love Angle" trying to get anyone to take them seriously. (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent) (Thread) (Hide 2 comments) (Show 2 comments)

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des-butterfly.livejournal.com
2007-01-17 06:24 pm UTC (link)

See, I would love the name "black angle of despair". XD

I'd have an entire blog devoted to it and write diary entries like:

feeling O.b.t.U.s.E today. Life is a meaningless droll game of a.p.t.h.y. and shit.

I think that acute is cheating on me with rectangle. Our souls are connected but she just can't see we're meant to be togather. That bitch.

I love her so much. Time to bisect again. Oh the c.r.i.m.s.o.n. lines across my skin....

- the black angle gently weeps

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	no subject askerian 2007-01-17 06:26 pm UTC (link)
	snicker Oh, I saw an entry like that on metaquotes once, it about killed me. XD I think they got it from f_rants too... tries to remember x__x (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject bunnynumber13.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 08:18 pm UTC (link)
	I would go for the honest approach. It sounds like you don't want to do it. You lose nothing by being straight with her -- just be polite about it. (Reply to this)

	no subject qem-chibati.livejournal.com 2007-01-17 09:56 pm UTC (link)
	"That depends. Are you going to take the comments I make seriously, or are you going to play the "but my classmate wrote it so it's not my fault" card whenever I say something you didn't want to hear? Because I don't want to waste my time giving you concrit you're not planning to use." ? Sounds awfully tempting. Doo et! (Reply to this) (Thread) (Hide 1 comment) (Show 1 comment)

	no subject askerian 2007-01-18 12:10 pm UTC (link)
	done~ (Reply to this) (Thread from start) (Parent)

	no subject aelinasongmaker.livejournal.com 2007-01-19 03:49 am UTC (link)
	Flame. (Reply to this)

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forbiddenartist.livejournal.com
2007-01-25 08:40 pm UTC (link)

can i just say i took a look at it i was going to struggle through the whole thing but i didn't really get past the first few line paragrapgh things, i shouldn't really say anything as i'm a pretty shit writer myself, but if i was betaing it i wouldn't know where to start, it would probably take several hours to get through, and when u end up sending the edit she probably wont learn from it, and will give you more of the same, only for you to try and piece it together in something that remotely regards a good fan fic, or u could just try to explain to her that her story line doesn't make sense and maybe she should try some original writing first (so basically she actually knows her characters) rather than taking a couple of characters from a story she thinks she knows well, and completly destroying them. (that might be a bit harsh but it's kind of true)

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askerian
2007-01-25 09:20 pm UTC (link)

Yeah, I'm not going to help her at all because it would be so pointless. ~_~

I asked her if she would actually use what I said or just pretend "it's not my fault, it was my classmate so i can't be held responsible for it" and she never answered me. And today I went to her forum and in a link she posted to her fanfic, she went all EWW ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO CRIT'D ME IS BISEXUAL EW. ... What a fucking hypocrite. She stole A GRAPHIC MALE/MALE/FEMALE STORY. D: *hisses at the idiot*

I'm going to call her on it in public at her forum, and then I'm really not going to bother with her anymore. ~_~

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